base talk Is Lizzo truly over?

[Dula Peep]

Travis Scott literally stood by and did nothing while his fans were crushed to death and he's going number 1 

[Nashe]

No idea how it'll affect her touring power which was pretty good so far afaik, but even without this scandal she wasn't exactly the hottest artist regarding charts. Truth Hurts got popular thanks to a movie placement, Good As Hell followed its hype and About Damn Time was flopping until that viral tiktok dance.

 

I'm sad how things are unfolding for her, but if the accusations are true, she obviously has to take responsibility.

She's a unique and extremely talented artist in today's pop landscape who was struggling financially for years before her big break, so I'll be really sad if she ruined things for herself.

[Gwendolyn]

59 minutes ago, supershy said:

DaBaby, after the homophobic thing he flops hard 

I feel like DaBaby was on his last legs even when the homophobia scandal happened though, people we're getting tired of his same raps and 'lame' image - the homophobia scandal was the perfect excuse for people to finally drop him.

Edited August 2, 2023 by Gwendolyn

[ugo]

I get the double standards but nonetheless Lizzo still did something awful.

[More Than A Melody]

3 hours ago, Hector said:

Problematic women will get canceled in a heartbeat while this country will continue to support Morgan Wallen, Jason Aldean, and Travis Scott 

This is what frustrates me. I think if everything we heard is true she deserves all these lashings and for her career to be over, but the fact that so many men (particularly white) have not been affected in the slightest for being horrible people is disturbing.

[Rep2000]

1 hour ago, satellites.™ said:

People are NOT smart, they have NOT read into this AT ALL and are just vultures.

 

Like, who GOES to a strip club and expects not to see nudity.

 

Her big issue was mixing friendships with employees. 

The *big issue* here is that she peer pressured them into doing things they were uncomfortable with. And it happened twice with the Paris nude bar.

Not to mention the false imprisonment and torture of her dancers that you conveniently ignore.

Edited August 2, 2023 by Rep2000

[jjmed59]

unfortunately, this isnt just a “shes dating a bad person” or “shes a homewrecker” kind of scandal. there are actual crimes going on here. i dont think she will make it back from this one considering her brand has been completely ruined.

[Totami Legend]

4 hours ago, Hector said:

Problematic women will get canceled in a heartbeat while this country will continue to support Morgan Wallen, Jason Aldean, and Travis Scott 

 

4 hours ago, Trent W said:

Travis Scott did something 100x worse and he is smashing right now with all industry back up
 

  

1 hour ago, Dula Peep said:

Travis Scott literally stood by and did nothing while his fans were crushed to death and he's going number 1 

 

thank you Beyoncé for forgiving him. 

Edited August 2, 2023 by Totami Legend

[Devin]

6 hours ago, NewStanner said:

Wait, I just realized that it's the same user who defended Travis Scott and compared his situation to the Manchester bombing, no wonder why he's -ing at my comment. Truly proving my point that some people will forgive men for even the worst things

Lol are you dumb?

My response had nothing to do with that thread.

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@Enrique523 you got something u wanna say? 

[Enrique523]

5 hours ago, JustLikeHoney said:

They tried this with Kelly Clarkson too. I doubt Lizzo is over and I doubt she did any of this.i hope they investigate find out. 

...this is a joke right? MANY people who were close to Lizzo supported the dancers's lawsuit, why do you even think this is false to begin with? 

 

[RihRihGirrrl]

Is a strip club considered a 'work environment' in this case? That could be what determines the outcome of this suit. If the allegations are true then shame on Lizzo! 

[mercurialworld]

I seemingly forgot to answer my own question but yes, our Lizzo is over.

[uusagii]

Good riddance

[hallucinate]

it’s not looking good for her 

[Galah]

Her breakout hit was co-written with a man accused of sexual misconduct (which she never acknowledged or spoke out against), so I'm not sure why we're all shocked. People clearly just haven't been paying attention.

[ariesgroove]

7 hours ago, JustLikeHoney said:

They tried this with Kelly Clarkson too. I doubt Lizzo is over and I doubt she did any of this.i hope they investigate find out. 

kelly’s situation was a bit more different, the hostile work environment was solely blamed on the producers of the show and not kelly herself, they even emphasized how unaware she was of it. lizzo’s case solely placed the blame on her and puts her in an awful light. plus, like it was said before, all the allegations go completely against what lizzo represented as a public figure and an artist, this most likely isn’t gonna end well tbh.

[Fleahive]

I'm truly concerned for her mental health. Ever since she went private on twitter and threatened to disappear forever I've been worried about her. This one is going to hurt her bad... especially if she sees the Beyonce thing as shade. 

[Fleahive]

You guys are making terrible comparisons.

Chris Brown has a STRONG dedicated fanbase of females that want to **** him no matter what.

Gen Z WORSHIPS artists like Travis Scott.

Recent racist country stars all have strong dedicated fan bases that won't budge no matter what.

 

Lizzo, DaBaby don't have a dedicated fan base. She will be cancelled accordingly, not enough people will stay to support her. Her solo album flopped and only one song did well strictly because it became a tiktok trend. 

[KLatz]

Probably not. These scandals rarely have lasting impact and social media usually gets past them pretty quickly. If the material is good, she'll continue to see success. She'd have to do something absolutely atrocious to really be over tbh.

Edited August 2, 2023 by KLatz

[Polgg48]

i was away for few days busy on real world staffs and lizzo already got cancelled this quick? wait for lizzo response before make up my decision...

[blueberries]

Hope so, trashy woman

[Xtianlofbritney]

Her problem is that she doesn’t have a solid fanbase like Britney, Gaga or Beyoncé to fight for her.

 

she relies on the GP, so I think she is over.

[teresaguidice]

she was at risk of being over regardless just because her music and image are very novelty and meghan trainor'd but if she releases a radio friendly earworm in 6 months or whenever, she'll be fine. same with doja. most people are really just not as plugged into this stuff as some of you think. 

[madonnas]

I don’t think it’s a given that this is over but it will haunt her forever.  
 

this is in complete contrast to her her imagine + she’s a black woman so people are chomping at the bits to attack her.  
 

 

Frankly the accusations are bad but they seem par the course for the industry.  I’m not trying to defend her but .. gurl, I even saw a tweet comparing her to R Kelly.  It’s time for a little bit of media literacy cuz

 

the music and entertainment industries are extremely toxic industries that don’t value workers dignity.  Lizzo is a small small part of the problem.  And she also seemed to not understand that her employees are not her girlfriends she can kii kii with.  I bet you if she and her kookoo manager didn’t treat her dancers so shit none of them would have felt uncomfortable in the strip club situations but regardless people should really do their best to not engage in personal relationships with anyone in positions below or above them.  

[madonnas]

1 hour ago, teresaguidice said:

she was at risk of being over regardless just because her music and image are very novelty and meghan trainor'd but if she releases a radio friendly earworm in 6 months or whenever, she'll be fine. same with doja. most people are really just not as plugged into this stuff as some of you think. 

This is bigger than the Doja mess.  “Doja was rude to her fans” isn’t as much of a shocking thing to read as “Lizzo is being sued for sexual harassment” for people who aren’t tuned in, even headlines are of much bigger magnitudes