Queenyoncee Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mitsuki said: That's why Lim Young-woong won Artist of the Year and Album of the Year on Melon Music Awards last edition Not only does he have hits, but he is also known to the public and has a big fan base The biggest Kpop Groups always had both: BTS, EXO, SNSD, BP and few more Edited November 21, 2023 by Queenyoncee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrosup Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 17 hours ago, Pluto2022 said: FINALLY! They debuted higher than what was predicted btw 17 hours ago, Pluto2022 said: JYP having 3 acts charting on Hot 100 and all 3 of them being from different generations as well is kinda iconic: 2nd gen: Wonder Girls 3rd gen: TWICE 4th gen: Stray Kids 17 hours ago, Mitsuki said: They won, mr. Pluto Stray Kids will always win. Trust. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Queenyoncee said: He has not only hits but is also known among the public + he has a big fanbase The biggest Kpop Groups always had both: BTS, EXO, SNSD, BP and few more 1 hour ago, Mitsuki said: But I've never said he is unknown, his fandom doesn't exist or is small. But It's a well known fact there's a strong fandom support to manipulate the charts that makes he chart higher, longer and having more cumulative streams and downloads that he would have only with organic digitals. And It's possible simple cause your statement that Melon totally eliminate fandom power's manipulation is incorrent. They might filter and make it harder than It was now, but so does most official charts in the world within their own rules. So I don't know what you tried to achieve with your shady comment here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odette Violet Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 11 hours ago, Eternium said: Love Taeyeon but her mini titles are never her most commercial. I don’t expect the song nor video to be even half as good as “Drama.” But she’ll probably serve MOTY and outdo “MY World.” I highly doubt she'll outdo My World, she kinda already won AOTY last year with INVU quality wise. MPG taeyeon has to rest a bit I'm ready for another Yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenyoncee Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) IU so high without comeback Nation‘s Center Yoona serving longevity Edited November 21, 2023 by Queenyoncee 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto6 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mitsuki said: Their career will be always iconic for me How they manage to get 44 million streams globally in a week to chart on Billboard Global 200 Top 10, but can't get mere 150k (?) Or less uls on Melon to get a Top 10 on Korea It always makes me think "wow, there's really a big world out there for them" SKZ getting a hit on MelOn won’t really change their career trajectory as much , as you have mentioned before, cause with the way they are already selling out the biggest domes in Korea, and the way Korean media talks about them, you would think they are a group with multiple PAKs already, cause a lot of the chart topping groups can’t even sell out KSPO dome etc. Edited November 21, 2023 by Pluto2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenyoncee Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Mel. said: Welcome back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save-Me-Oprah Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Babymonster will flop, I wish them the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto6 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, Dialamba said: the big3 Suzy is truly the it-girl of 2nd gen, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrgVisual Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Pluto2022 said: Suzy is truly the it-girl of 2nd gen, right? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dialamba Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Suzy is truly the it-girl of 2nd gen, right? Don’t say that. Yoona Stans will come for you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto6 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, Sept said: Suzy>>>> YooN/A 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adama Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Suzy is truly the it-girl of 2nd gen, right? Yes even if Yoona was also big! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenyoncee Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 In the end, Snoozy and YooN/A are both huge It girls who also managed to have acting careers Certain groups don't have an It Girl at all and have to hide behind other artists 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlwlrma Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) Suzy was always above, just behind IU but Yoona is bigger right now, the poll is fair Yoona is picking good works, the combo K2 and KTL is huge meanwhile Suzy is relying in the past Doona was not it Edited November 21, 2023 by dlwlrma 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto6 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, Dialamba said: Don’t say that. Yoona Stans will come for you. As someone who isn’t as familiar with Yoona or Suzy or 2nd gen in general as much, I always heard the Kpop circle and the media refer to Suzy as THÈ IT-GIRL, who was so popular and powerful that she completely overshadowed her group, which is also why JYP had to change how he manages his group, to not have a similar case as Suzy. Btw, isn’t Taeyeon the most popular SNSD member? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odette Violet Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2023 #1 Yoona --- Snoozy Receipts > KTRL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odette Violet Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Drama #2 now Is also stomping Savage globally Poor that alleged fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Tea Is Green Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 The pig spilled 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicFan98 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, Pluto2022 said: As someone who isn’t as familiar with Yoona or Suzy or 2nd gen in general as much, I always heard the Kpop circle and the media refer to Suzy as THÈ IT-GIRL, who was so popular and powerful that she completely overshadowed her group, which is also why JYP had to change how he manages his group, to not have a similar case as Suzy. Btw, isn’t Taeyeon the most popular SNSD member? The thing is, MissA were to the GP what Itzy is to the current GP, so there was barely anything to overshadow, they were fx's competition for God's sake. Of course you can overshadow SNSD, just like Jennie/Lisa can't overshadow Blackpink. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenyoncee Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, dlwlrma said: Suzy was always the above, just behind IU but Yoona is bigger right now, the poll is fair Yoona is picking good works, the combo K2 and KTL is huge meanwhile Suzy is relying in the past Doona was not it IU will always be the most impressive to me. Imagine being the biggest female artist, many CFs and an acting career 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save-Me-Oprah Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto6 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said: Not now Oprah, we are discussing the biggest it-girl of 2nd gen aka Suzy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fais_2311 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Btw, isn’t Taeyeon the most popular SNSD member? In term of popularity, it’s Yoona then Taeyeon. As both Yoona & Taeyeon’s photocard collector, it’s impossible to collect Yoona’s photocard. I still can’t find her Forever1 photocard cause the price is too expensive and there were too many demand for her pc. Taeyeon’s pc are much easier to find and the price is way more cheaper. Even on Japan’s site like Mercari, Yoona’s photocards always sold out so fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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