fan base K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

[Mitsuki]

Just now, lgaga1fan said:

aespa and skz/txt aren't comparable acts and have massively different fanbases and discography lengths. I just think the infighting about these two bgs is getting a bit absurd. Both are headlining the same festival in different continents, both are doing stadium dates at the same venues in the US, both have similar album stats, both lack a single charting entry on the US Hot 100 despite selling hundreds of thousands of albums. Until one has a clear breakout ahead of the other that's significant enough to warrant the constant fighting its giving sones vs. blackjacks in the modern day. 

 

But that's exactly what make the stan wars fun. When someone is far ahead in all existent metrics, there's nothing to discuss 

 

[Mitsuki]

And I prefer to discuss numbers in a fair debate than be hateful and mean to groups for no reason

 

[rzal]

9 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

Actually, It does. You were answering to Pluto's post mentioning Stray Kids outstreamed TXT on US this year and how they are still charting in Artists Category saying they only did due their full-length released. 

 

But It isn't true. They outstreamed TXT on US even prior their full-length release with data from January to late May. 

 

mind you txt have been payola'd to death since their debut in 2019, including radio promoted singles, tv performances, festival performances and a recent collab with jonas brothers. all that and skz still stomp, the little texters always ignore this fact 

[naomi24]

In my humble opinion the market of kpop is literally so huge now that all of our big faves are popular to some extent with the kpop fans outside of Korea. Even though Surely  the general public don't know anyone besides BTS or blackpink they don't need to because this growing  kpop fanbase is including tweens and teens all across continents. Many fans are also multis and attend concerts and shows of any major kpop act that visits them.  So we can fight all we want over who is bigger between Skz or TXT or enhypen....or aespa or Lsrflm or Ive or new jeans or itzy... when a large portion of people attending their concerts (atleast outside of Korea) is overlapping. The average kpop obsessed teen is not as die-hard about fandom loyalty as chronically online atrl/twitter users. 

 

[Mitsuki]

Just now, rzal said:

mind you txt have been payola'd to death since their debut in 2019, including radio promoted singles, tv performances, festival performances and a recent collab with jonas brothers. all that and skz still stomp, the little texters always ignore this fact 

Sometimes I wonder how Stray Kids got such a big fandom on US with shitty promotions there. They only had one TV show performance as promotion early this year. And before that, their last promotion was in early 2020. 

 

Even their playlisting game is very niche/weak and they neither do collaborations with american artists, nor release english singles. 

 

[Mitsuki]

 

She's the sweetest person 

 

[moxcy]

I wish they would perform this remix more I love how much fun they had with it
 

 

[LCTV]

4 minutes ago, naomi24 said:

In my humble opinion the market of kpop is literally so huge now that all of our big faves are popular to some extent with the kpop fans outside of Korea. Even though Surely  the general public don't know anyone besides BTS or blackpink they don't need to because this growing  kpop fanbase is including tweens and teens all across continents. Many fans are also multis and attend concerts and shows of any major kpop act that visits them.  So we can fight all we want over who is bigger between Skz or TXT or enhypen....or aespa or Lsrflm or Ive or new jeans or itzy... when a large portion of people attending their concerts (atleast outside of Korea) is overlapping. The average kpop obsessed teen is not as die-hard about fandom loyalty as chronically online atrl/twitter users. 

 

NewJeans 25,858,861 monthly listeners said hi from

worldwide. The GP has been breached.

[JonginBey]

My 3rd and 4th copy of AOTY has arrived 

 

[ItsJustMe.]

5 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

 

She's the sweetest person 

 

this so cute!!

[uusagii]

If you're over 20 and stan NewJeans you're definitely not a part of your immediate society (living off parents' money) and you're ****** up in the head

[Born to Run]

I don't care for either group but who's stomping whom 

 

 

 

[Born to Run]

Just now, uusagii said:

If you're over 20 and stan NewJeans you're definitely not a part of your immediate society (living off parents' money) and you're ****** up in the head

You're still on ATRL, hush.

 

[SandyJeans]

NewJeans: Lollapalooza 

Aespa: Tokyo Dome 

Ive: I've Ive Full Album 

Lesserafim: Antifragile 

GI-dle: 3 back-to-back consecutive PAKS 

 

gg stans, we all win 

 

Edited August 5, 2023 by SandyJeans

[uusagii]

Just now, Born to Run said:

You're still on ATRL, hush.

 

I have a job, which makes all the difference

 

[Sheep]

3 minutes ago, uusagii said:

If you're over 20 and stan NewJeans you're definitely not a part of your immediate society (living off parents' money) and you're ****** up in the head

This post reeks of projecting your own insecurities onto some harmless little girl music.

[Born to Run]

2 minutes ago, uusagii said:

I have a job, which makes all the difference

 

Have fun!

 

[Odette Violet]

2 hours ago, Zack said:

Not just that, it seems for a group of users, their whole sphere of consciousness in this thread revolves around aespa and trying to discredit everything those girls do. 

 

Even when the topic isn't about them, somehow it keeps on coming back to aespa every time. The mental gymnastics required seems exhausting. Glad it ain't me! 

 

 

2 hours ago, Rhyme said:

It really just comes down to the fact some users just can't say "good for aespa" and move on. It always has to be some undermining or some random shade they read from 2 years ago. Not to be dramatic but aespa could cure cancer and some users would say some another 4th gen girlgroup could cure cancer and then end world hunger while they're at it. 

 

2 hours ago, Century said:

Certain users have been saying aespa is over since they joined the website and their sales, streams, and concert attendance only get bigger every day. It's time to give it up 

 

For a flop and fads like Aespa as they said. They sure are the first group they'll bring up with measuring and comparing success. Never IVE, GIDLE or Lesserrafim aka the groups who are part of KTRL's trinity or whatever 

 

 

 

 

And to that GIDLE Stan who was trying it. Thirsty was released before Allergic 

 

[uusagii]

Just now, Century said:

This post reeks of projecting your own insecurities onto some harmless little girl music.

"Little girl music"

Thanks for letting us know why you listen to a bunch of teenagers

Truly fractured, truly tragic

 

[uusagii]

Just now, Born to Run said:

Have fun!

 

Okay! Have fun living in N*w Z*aland

[uusagii]

1 minute ago, Odette Violet said:

 

 

 

For a flop and fads like Aespa as they said. They sure are the first group they'll bring up with measuring and comparing success. Never IVE, GIDLE or Lesserrafim aka the groups who are part of KTRL's trinity or whatever 

 

 

 

 

And to that GIDLE Stan who was trying it. Thirsty was released before Allergic 

 

Talent always wins I fear

[Sheep]

3 minutes ago, uusagii said:

"Little girl music"

Thanks for letting us know why you listen to a bunch of teenagers

Truly fractured, truly tragic

 

My favs are aespa who make oontz oontz music for getting barebacked to. You just seem miserable.

Edited August 5, 2023 by Century

[Mitsuki]

1 minute ago, Born to Run said:

I don't care for either group but who's stomping whom 

 

 

 

Both are fandom driving, so obviously If you release more songs, the average streaming number per song can be affected during release day, as the fandom has more stuff to divide attention. 

 

In the long run we see who stomp on who: 

 

S-Class surpassing 70,000,000 streams on Spotify: 56 days

 

Sugar Rush Ride surpassing 70,000,000 streams on Spotify: 91 days

 

And on Spotify US Artists only one group is still charting. 

 

[Mitsuki]

TXT can have Melon, no discussion about it. It's the only market in the world they are bigger than SKZ

 

[uusagii]

Just now, Century said:

My favs are aespa who make oontz oontz music for getting barebacked to

Good for you! Not sure what this important and vital information adds to what we're talking about, but I'm really joyous for you