fan base K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

[Gaia]

Gidle seems popular as a group but have no relevance outside of their group name.

 

both Soyeon and Miyeon tanked with solos. I don’t think people actually care about them outside of their novelty songs. Since tomboy they’ve been very gimmicky with the songs which is great for digital success but no one is going “Yas gidle is my fave group” 

Edited May 30, 2023 by Gaia

[jeanie]

5 stars will probably outsell MOTS:7 first before FML does.. 

 

MOTS: 7 is at 5,037,554 sales FML is at 4,601,656 while 5 star preoder is at 4.9m 

[Mitsuki]

STRAY KIDS 

 

And there's "just" around 900k from China. The way they would get over 4M pre orders regardless the cbars is INSANE

 

  

[jeanie]

will be nice to see if skz will also end up charting decently in korea since this time seventeen has managed to bag an actual stable top 10 song on melon but idk skz is still nugu in Korea much more than enhypen...  it's gonna be weird how they have like 4.9m sales internationally but cant even enter top 100 on their own home country  ive never seen a much bigger disparity of popularity in kpop

[levi_valvi]

Using accumulated career stats make me sense when newjeans shat down the throats of every other 4th gen gg with their two releases

 

[Chemist]

Those pre-orders are ridiculous. The fact that they don’t correlate with the actual popularity of the group makes them more insane

[Get]

14 minutes ago, Gaia said:

Gidle seems popular as a group but have no relevance outside of their group name.

 

both Soyeon and Miyeon tanked with solos. I don’t think people actually care about them outside of their novelty songs. Since tomboy they’ve been very gimmicky with the songs which is great for digital success but no one is going “Yas gidle is my fave group” 

Also they aren't from a big company. It's an uphill battle for them.

Edited May 30, 2023 by Get

[Fanta]

the way physicals are quickly becoming irrelevant… congrats to stray kings though. 

[Ryan]

19 minutes ago, Gaia said:

Gidle seems popular as a group but have no relevance outside of their group name.

 

both Soyeon and Miyeon tanked with solos. I don’t think people actually care about them outside of their novelty songs. Since tomboy they’ve been very gimmicky with the songs which is great for digital success but no one is going “Yas gidle is my fave group” 

Proof that everyone doesn’t need a solo career tbh. Some are better when part of a sum. 

[Chemist]

Most searched female idols in Japan in 2023:

1. Sakura

2. Sana

3. Wonyoung

4. Momo

5. Chaewon

6. Rei

7. Tzuyu

8. Winter

9. Nayeon

10. Mina

 

Japan’s obsession with Twice is still going strong

[Gorjesspazze9]

JYP becoming the Physical kings of the Big 4 2013 me would have never have thought they would beat SM in Physicals. Twice and Stray Kids Impact 🤭

[Mitsuki]

7 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

JYP becoming the Physical kings of the Big 4 2013 me would have never have thought they would beat SM in Physicals. Twice and Stray Kids Impact 🤭

And, from their groups, Stray Kids is the act they have the least amount of credits for  they were lucky to have a trainee like Bang Chan 

[Dialamba]

47 minutes ago, ks_dollar said:

These numbers seem so unreal. It's not that I dont believe them, but – I don't get how an artist in Korea could move millions of preorders, when an artist from the USA, a country with a much higher population, can't. 

Not even Adele can pull that anymore. It’s Chinese fans who mass buy   

[Dialamba]

21 minutes ago, Chemist said:

Most searched female idols in Japan in 2023:

1. Sakura

2. Sana

3. Wonyoung

4. Momo

5. Chaewon

6. Rei

7. Tzuyu

8. Winter

9. Nayeon

10. Mina

 

Japan’s obsession with Twice is still going strong

Truly the biggest k-pop in japan. Misamo’s debut will be a collapse.  

 

43 minutes ago, Gaia said:

Gidle seems popular as a group but have no relevance outside of their group name.

 

both Soyeon and Miyeon tanked with solos. I don’t think people actually care about them outside of their novelty songs. Since tomboy they’ve been very gimmicky with the songs which is great for digital success but no one is going “Yas gidle is my fave group” 

Nothing wrong with that. Not everyone needs an It girl. 
+ it was before Tomboy let’s be real they will chart better since they’re much more bigger right now 

Edited May 30, 2023 by Dialamba

[Eternium]

1 hour ago, hindsight said:

"1. ITZY"

 

wait are we in 2019 or what

 

 

1 hour ago, fais_2311 said:

ITZY is at 3.9M physicals, 1.947B Spotify, 2.136B YouTube and ~2.5B Circle points. Yes their career has stalled, but they’re still on top until literally tomorrow when IVE ships their WAVE EP. It’s crazy to see how quick you girls are to turn your backs on them just because newer groups came out.

1 hour ago, Pikachu said:

sis i don’t think people really care about physical sales when it comes to GG rankings, esp when GIDLE debuted before the big sales boom

(G)-IDLE’s sales were bad because they just didn’t hit it big yet and their label didn’t invest in the physicals. Their two Japanese EPs combined didn’t touch 13k units and they saw stagnation pretty early in (I Made and Dumdi Dumdi were both declines). They didn’t hit it big until YuQi started promoting in China, which lead to increased relevance in Asia.

 

Y’all need to let go of the myth that physicals don’t matter. Yes there is heavy dependence on fan interaction and the labels can help manipulate them by releasing extra versions, but that’s no different than how fans and labels manipulate singles charts. 

1 hour ago, Vrx. said:

Ah yeah I forgot about IVE’s streak. I think they’re gonna be the one to break SISTAR’s record. 

For sure. Wonyoung’s career is legendary. She’s 18 and she’s already sold 7.5M albums across her two groups and over 4B digital points.

1 hour ago, Rhythm said:

 

It’s an overall assessment of the 4th gen determined by an amalgamation of physicals and Circle digital points, I believe. Not current standing in 2023.

I really did not think it was such a hard concept that it would need to be explained to those girls, but thank you  

[Brooklyn Baby]

24 minutes ago, Chemist said:

Most searched female idols in Japan in 2023:

1. Sakura

2. Sana

3. Wonyoung

4. Momo

5. Chaewon

6. Rei

7. Tzuyu

8. Winter

9. Nayeon

10. Mina

 

Japan’s obsession with Twice is still going strong

Winter 

[Odd]

The sales for boy groups are rising but none of them are giving us major hits..

 

 

 

Like, are we going to see an 1mil increase every year? 

 

Hopefully EXO-L's do their job and put that bulk buying money into some promo. (Specifically chinese EXO-Ls. The korean ones are too busy buying protest trucks.)

 

 

 

 

[Fanta]

40 minutes ago, Chemist said:

Most searched female idols in Japan in 2023:

1. Sakura

2. Sana

3. Wonyoung

4. Momo

5. Chaewon

6. Rei

7. Tzuyu

8. Winter

9. Nayeon

10. Mina

 

Japan’s obsession with Twice is still going strong

chaewon being top 5 

Edited May 30, 2023 by Fanta

[OrgVisual]

Kpop fans evaluating artist's success based on who's having a bigger hit is insane. Its like saying Miley is bigger than Taylor and SZA because Flowers is the bigger hit

 

[playboi]

lol @ Japan saying no to Kazuha 

As they should

 

[Gorjesspazze9]

Aespa just outsold BlackPink total album sales today on Hanteo , so is Aespa Bigger then BP now🫣

https://twitter.com/koreansales_twt/status/1663456266050568194?s=46&t=sTdJZMenLQSZNz-HvhnLqw

 

 

 

 

Edited May 30, 2023 by Gorjesspazze9

[WeFoundWill]

5M sales and a #176 Spotify debut  

[Asscatchem]

you cant stream photocards

[Mitsuki]

Stray Kids Album Stock Pre-Orders

GO LIFE — 200k
IN LIFE — 300k
NOEASY — 930k
ODDINARY — 1.3M
MAXIDENT — 2.37M
5-STAR — 4.93M* 🌟

* Still counting (until June 2nd)

 

https://twitter.com/skzchartdata/status/1663427247284314117?s=20

 

[Mitsuki]

Stray Kids have albums with over 600/700M and almost 900M streams. This is more than 99% of K-pop groups, without needing casual K-pop stans' fickle approval. They won.