vale9001 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 This was very hyped. The post of Rihanna announcing it got 850K likes on twitter. The post announcing her super bowl show got 1.8M likes on twitter and everyone was "she's making the super bowl so a new song is coming". This of course was huge marketing for the song coming "very soon". People didn't replay the song since day one or it would have made 11-12M at least, cause the hype for the comeback was there. Did she lost the momentum? Were kids like "let's see what is this thing old people are talking about" and then they thought "Ok nothing special?". Can she recreate the momentum when the new material will come?. For me she absolutely can, the Super Bowl will create the buzz again.
vale9001 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HabbGaga said: these are great numbers for a soundtrack song. be serious and compare this with songs like shallow, carolina, hold my hand, be alive and spirit and she outperformed basically all of them. people are gonna act like taylor ended rih with her lead single when in reality carolina (a soundtrack song) dropped 86 spots in its 2nd day. carolina wasn't event sent to radios, this got the biggest debut of the last 2 years on radio. This is planned as comeback with the artist playlists all over the homepage of apple music and so on. Be serious please. Edited October 30, 2022 by vale9001
zoldyck Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Lift Me Up Day 1: 7,605,514 Day 2: 4,399,597 No Time To Die Day 1: 7,166,720 Day 2: 5,218,837 This is obviously has Halloween impact factored in, but then again I am not sure how much it is affecting the songs since SZA's shirt drop isn't that bad at all.
zoldyck Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, HabbGaga said: these are great numbers for a soundtrack song. be serious and compare this with songs like shallow, carolina, hold my hand, be alive and spirit and she outperformed basically all of them. people are gonna act like taylor ended rih with her lead single when in reality carolina (a soundtrack song) dropped 86 spots in its 2nd day. Shallow - Was a slow burner, it whole chart run was anomaly Caroline - Wasn't send to radio, didn't had video. Bad playlisting HMH - Bad and late playlisting Be Alive - Wasn't send to radio, didn't got playlisted, from small movie. Beyonce didn't acknowledge it until Oscars. I don't remember about Spirit but only song actually comparable to it is Billie's No Time To Die.
Squall Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, HabbGaga said: these are great numbers for a soundtrack song. be serious and compare this with songs like shallow, carolina, hold my hand, be alive and spirit and she outperformed basically all of them. people are gonna act like taylor ended rih with her lead single when in reality carolina (a soundtrack song) dropped 86 spots in its 2nd day. The comparison doesn’t make any sense
Starkboy Posted October 30, 2022 Author Posted October 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, vale9001 said: This was very hyped. The post of Rihanna announcing it got 850K likes on twitter. The post announcing her super bowl show got 1.8M likes on twitter and everyone was "she's making the super bowl so a new song is coming". This of course was huge marketing for the song coming "very soon". People didn't replay the song since day one or it would have made 11-12M at least, cause the hype for the comeback was there. Did she lost the momentum? Were kids like "let's see what is this thing old people are talking about" and then they thought "Ok nothing special?". Can she recreate the momentum when the new material will come?. For me she absolutely can, the Super Bowl will create the buzz again. people just don't particularly like the song. it happens, I don't know why stan culture makes it so unsual lol. rihanna has never relied on hype and buzz for her success, she'll be fine.
Starkboy Posted October 30, 2022 Author Posted October 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, zoldyck said: Shallow - Was a slow burner, it whole chart run was anomaly Caroline - Wasn't send to radio, didn't had video. Bad playlisting HMH - Bad and late playlisting Be Alive - Wasn't send to radio, didn't got playlisted, from small movie. Beyonce didn't acknowledge it until Oscars. I don't remember about Spirit but only song actually comparable to it is Billie's No Time To Die. yeah too bad none of these songs would have pulled numbers even with playlists and everything.
Squall Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Starkboy said: yeah too bad none of these songs would have pulled numbers even with playlists and everything. Of course not, but they also weren’t come back songs
vale9001 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) The only soundtrack song comparable from Taylor is I don't wanna live forever. First original song in 2 years for her, big movie, big pop release etc.. The comparison with Beys soundtracks is also really unfair. Lift me up is #1 on every playlist of new music everywhere. Then if you want to tell me Anti - hero is more pushed by having a complete new project around it can be true but you can't say this is just a soundtrack song. The fact is working as just soundtrack song when it's planned as a big pop release it's why it's disappoiting right now. Edited October 30, 2022 by vale9001
zoldyck Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Just now, Starkboy said: yeah too bad none of these songs would have pulled numbers even with playlists and everything. yes I agree on that, they were soundtracks songs and treated like soundtracks songs. Except for maybe Taylor who could have pulled bigger numbers if she tried. 2M would have been ceiling for both Be Alive and HMH regardless of circumstances. But Lift Me Up is getting the push of lead single. Massive radio deal and playlisting, to compare it songs like HMH, Be Alive, Carolina is simply an invalid comparison.
vale9001 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Starkboy said: people just don't particularly like the song. it happens, I don't know why stan culture makes it so unsual lol. rihanna has never relied on hype and buzz for her success, she'll be fine. This is absolutely true. Even with a new record every year seemed like everytime she neeed to re built hype. The problem is it's not 2012 anymore and can she found space between the dualipas and doja cats?-
Paola Bracho Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) "She is over..." Edited October 30, 2022 by Paola Bracho
Mr. Stratus Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) Lift Me Up Day 1: 7,605,514 Day 2: 4,399,597 No Time To Die Day 1: 7,166,720 Day 2: 5,218,837 OST songs will never do as well as normal songs, but ballads 90% of the time tend to ‘flex’ after their chart runs. This will be like ‘No Time To Die’ which was a smash for an OST, despite being frontloaded. An IDWLF/Shallow is few and far between - Beyoncé has been trying for years. Anyways If Rihanna doesn’t deliver with her album then it’ll be her ‘rise’- this do me is extremely ironic seeing as she picked up a lot of Katy stans after that, I just hope they won’t Jinkx her Edited October 30, 2022 by Mr. Stratus
vale9001 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 What do you mean with "the halloween effect"?. People listening to more specific playlists (with party songs and similar)?.
Monster Queen Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, HabbGaga said: these are great numbers for a soundtrack song. be serious and compare this with songs like shallow, carolina, hold my hand, be alive and spirit and she outperformed basically all of them. people are gonna act like taylor ended rih with her lead single when in reality carolina (a soundtrack song) dropped 86 spots in its 2nd day. seriously? This song is now #1 on TTH (replace Anti-Hero) and has insane radio payola (debut much high than Anti-Hero) while Carolina was little to none playlisting and never sent to radio, you should just say this song is just not it instead of this weird comparison Edited October 30, 2022 by Monster Queen
Bosque Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Yeah releasing this randomly before the movie and before R9 was a dumb move. Rihanna will be fine, people will still stream her lead single but this definitely killed her momentum a bit. she still came back with Work after BBHMM and AO so I’m sure she’ll be okay.
By the Water Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 And navys were calling simm racist for saying AH would have no competition for #1 These numbers clearly show that people are interested in Rihanna, just not in this song. This whole thing was a big misstep
popjunkie Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, Mr. Stratus said: Beyoncé has been trying for years. The revisionist history. Beyoncé already has multiple successful soundtrack singles. The rollout for Spirit and Be Alive is incomparable to that of other recent soundtrack songs, including this one. Using the soundtrack excuse as a safegaurd to justify the lackluster debut for a (former) streaming monster who took a 6 year hiatus from music, a traditional rollout with heavy radio support, and countless social media posts with millions of engagements does not work in this case.
Dreajae Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 47 minutes ago, zoldyck said: Lift Me Up Day 1: 7,605,514 Day 2: 4,399,597 No Time To Die Day 1: 7,166,720 Day 2: 5,218,837 This is obviously has Halloween impact factored in, but then again I am not sure how much it is affecting the songs since SZA's shirt drop isn't that bad at all. Wait. Was it really that close with No Time to Die? Sometimes I feel like Navy loves a good vanity record cause she got this by the skin of her teeth with all the hype, radio and extensive playlisting. Wow. I don't think the Halloween impact should be factored in. Everyone else's song is doing fine while most Halloween songs haven't broke top 100 worldwide yet.
zoldyck Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Just now, Dreajae said: Wait. Was it really that close with No Time to Die? Sometimes I feel like Navy loves a good vanity record cause she got this by the skin of her teeth with all the hype, radio and extensive playlisting. Wow. I don't think the Halloween impact should be factored in. Everyone else's song is doing fine while most Halloween songs haven't broke top 100 worldwide yet. Rih song has another version, combined they did 9M. So she got the record by good 2M.
Dr.Cake Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Just now, Wewee said: A SL kind of mess Stable numbers which is a very good sign
By the Water Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 I don't understand the Be Alive and Carolina comparisons. Neither of those songs had anything close to 100M playlist exposure and the biggest radio deal of the year. This is also attached to the sequel of one of the biggest movies of all time on top of being promoted as "Rihanna's triumphant return to music". It may not be her lead single, but it's not comparable to most other MPG soundtrack singles
badgirlriri Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Navy, just let them pretend this is a lead single, it’ll make it all the more glorious when the actual one comes out
fridayteenage Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, vale9001 said: This is absolutely true. Even with a new record every year seemed like everytime she neeed to re built hype. The problem is it's not 2012 anymore and can she found space between the dualipas and doja cats?- i still remember when she cancelled 3 singles from her album because they didn't perform like she wanted
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