Brando Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brittanyhodak/2017/11/20/taylor-swifts-reputation-outsold-every-other-album-on-the-billboard-200-combined/amp/ 2017 was a really weak chart year honestly if I remember right lol. The biggest women around that time were Cardi, Halsey, Camila, and Ariana. That’s it. Edit: for clarity, they’re talking about pure sales — but rep had negligible streaming units anyways as it wasn’t on streaming services. Midnights and 25 probably also did similarly in pure sales — I’d imagine they outsold the whole of the Top 200 in pure. But SPS wise I’m not sure how both fare in relation to the entire chart. I mean in pure I wouldn't be surprised if Midnights outsold the entire bb 200 by like 5x
Brando Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Assassin said: As an Adele stan, I have to finally admit that Taylor is thee music industry.
CaptainMusic Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, coolblue said: Since she failed to pass Britney's oops record in pure sales do we consider it as broken or not broken? Britney’s record got destroyed by Adele 7 years ago Taylor has now surpassed Britney for the 2nd biggest female debut, yes. - Ridiculous numbers, congrats
Brando Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 1 minute ago, simmnfierzig said: I mean buying is obvious. New fans wo bought Midnights and liked it and wanted some more of her discography That the streams of the rest have held up so well is really impressive, yeah. Although they have been completely all over the place and they were at 44 million on Spotify the day before Midnights was released and now they are down to like 35M in the last days. With some albums down way more than others. The streams from evermore and Red TV have really collapsed where as streams from lover and 1989 have held up extremely well. Think those are albums that Midnights listeners / gp have now been also checking out. evermore is clearly a fanbase album Maybe people without premiums are forced to listen to tracks from other albums. I don't really use streaming, but when I play an album on Spotify using my phone it shuffles and starts playing songs from other albums by the same artist. The algorithm is probably trying to play something similar, and 1989 and to a lesser extent Lover sound the most similar to Midnights.
Bosque Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 The way she even crossed 1 million in pure sales to prevent the use of any potential drags
simmnfierzig Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Hunter_13 said: I think they have her TEA off. I know she did more than 16k digital song sales. Yeah... There is a 0 missing or something If the other numbers are correct it's over 1.55M
PoisonedIvy Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Brando said: I mean in pure I wouldn't be surprised if Midnights outsold the entire bb 200 by like 5x Hell I’d almost wager 10x
simmnfierzig Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 29 minutes ago, Michael196 said: 2022 Billboard 200 Albums Year-End: Week 50/52 Ranking Artist Album Units 1 Bad Bunny Un Verano Sin Ti 2,812,000 2 Adele 30 2,510,000 3 Morgan Wallen Dangerous: The Double Album 2,354,000 4 Taylor Swift Red (Taylor's Version) 1,890,000 5 Soundtrack Encanto 1,818,000 6 Harry Styles Harry's House 1,708,000 7 Olivia Rodrigo Sour 1,605,000 8 Drake Certified Lover Boy 1,519,000 9 The Weeknd The Highlights 1,384,000 10 Doja Cat Planet Her 1,332,000 #41 folklore #49 Lover #70 evermore #74 1989 #107 reputation #129 Fearless TV So Midnights needs 300k 2nd week to make it into the top 5. Should be happening
PoisonedIvy Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dephira said: The way she even crossed 1 million in pure sales to prevent the use of any potential drags When TS13 becomes the first album to do 1M units off of streaming alone and we have to put an asterisk* on it in relation to SN, Red, 1989, rep, and Midnights
Enrique523 Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Dephira said: The way she even crossed 1 million in pure sales to prevent the use of any potential drags I still can't quite believe she did over 1M in PURE SALES while still doing massive streaming numbers. In freaking 2022. This is music history right there In other good news, i'm glad to see 30 is still #2 for overall albums of the year, not bad for an album that was supposedly a big flop.
Michael196 Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: So Midnights needs 300k 2nd week to make it into the top 5. Should be happening Hopefully they’re still a bit off and bb’s numbers end up bigger to secure it... It would be legendary if both end up in the top 5 plus continue the iconic streak... also it will be her second time having 2 in the top 10, in 2010 Fearless was #7 and SN #9
Trainwreck Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, Dephira said: The way she even crossed 1 million in pure sales to prevent the use of any potential drags She knew the geis would try to come at her if she missed even by 1 sale so she said not on my watch f@q$
josesuxx Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 1.1M PURE which was what I thought she'd be doing in total
fridayteenage Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Enrique523 said: I still can't quite believe she did over 1M in PURE SALES while still doing massive streaming numbers. In freaking 2022. This is music history right there In other good news, i'm glad to see 30 is still #2 for overall albums of the year, not bad for an album that was supposedly a big flop. for 2022, 30 is #24 lower than last decade's WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET and GOOD KID M.A.A.D CITY Edited October 28, 2022 by fridayteenage
Saintlor Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/27/2022 at 3:42 PM, Taylena said: I don't care what ATRL says - 1M physical/digital sales in 2022 is equal to 3M sales in 2015 and it's just as impressive as Adele's. It's not. The second highest selling album first week in 2015 was Justin Bieber's Purpose which did 649K. Adele did 5.5X that many sales (3.5M). The second highest album first week in 2022 is Harry Styles who did 525K. Taylor is just under tripling the #2 selling album's first week. Adele's gap was much much bigger.
wwshooter Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 48 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: I mean buying is obvious. New fans wo bought Midnights and liked it and wanted some more of her discography That the streams of the rest have held up so well is really impressive, yeah. Although they have been completely all over the place and they were at 44 million on Spotify the day before Midnights was released and now they are down to like 35M in the last days. With some albums down way more than others. The streams from evermore and Red TV have really collapsed where as streams from lover and 1989 have held up extremely well. Think those are albums that Midnights listeners / gp have now been also checking out. evermore is clearly a fanbase album idk: fans will obviously want to revisit some of her old catalog to compare the sounds between tracks (that drum pattern of wcs second half is so reminding me of mad woman), but that has to be a tiny percentage, right? Her catalog stream is still too close to before October
simmnfierzig Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Saintlor said: It's not. The second highest selling album first week in 2015 was Justin Bieber's Purpose which did 649K. Adele did 5.5X that many sales (3.5M). The second highest album first week in 2022 is Harry Styles who did 525K. Taylor is just under tripling the #2 selling album's first week. Adele's gap was much much bigger. I agree that 3.5M is obviously way more impressive, but just comparing to the 2nd biggest week isnt that great... Way too much variance in that. Lets compare to the average #1 album that year (without 25 or Midnights) 2022: 149k 10x 2015: 190k 18x Amazingly we get almost exactly the same result
wwshooter Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 48 minutes ago, Brando said: Maybe people without premiums are forced to listen to tracks from other albums. I don't really use streaming, but when I play an album on Spotify using my phone it shuffles and starts playing songs from other albums by the same artist. The algorithm is probably trying to play something similar, and 1989 and to a lesser extent Lover sound the most similar to Midnights. You have a good point here, but I am under impression that Taylor’s fan are more on paid tier percentage wise. Maybe just just that casual fans are not likely to put the midnights songs on a repeat playlist, so more subjected to the algorithm
Brando Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, wwshooter said: You have a good point here, but I am under impression that Taylor’s fan are more on paid tier percentage wise. Maybe just just that casual fans are not likely to put the midnights songs on a repeat playlist, so more subjected to the algorithm Ye of course there would be tons of casual listeners without a premium. Plus of course fans can't stream the same album on repeat and may want to play some of the older songs that go very well with the current album.
UnusualBoy Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, fridayteenage said: for 2022, 30 is #24 lower than last decade's WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET and GOOD KID M.A.A.D CITY You just couldn't ignore someone saying something nice about Adele/30, could you? OT: Insane numbers, twice as much of what I was expecting.
Carrie-is-no-1 Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: I agree that 3.5M is obviously way more impressive, but just comparing to the 2nd biggest week isnt that great... Way too much variance in that. Lets compare to the average #1 album that year (without 25 or Midnights) 2022: 149k 10x 2015: 190k 18x Amazingly we get almost exactly the same result Sane members with substantial arguments OT: 1.1M pure sale is just out of this world. I still don’t like the album except for 3 tracks but Tay deserves the success she’s getting.
futurenostalgic Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 Amazing numbers. She kept moving the goalposts tho that i'm a tad disappointed she didn't get to 1.6
Bribe Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 Not her passing Speak Now's debut with her pure sales alone, in 2022
qurl Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 people are really in here trying to act like these aren’t absolutely insane numbers it will never not be a big deal to DEBUT platinum in 2022 its …. like mythic
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