theflying Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 ^^^* The post you quoted and your response are really out in left field. Anti-Hero is not “free-falling on radio”. It peaked. It was a monstrous hit - it’s seeing spin losses that are totally normal. It doesn’t need to be “helped”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale9001 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, simmnfierzig said: People were clearly streaming Rihanna instead of Taylor and a lot of other artists on Monday. Even Bad Bunny was really low. I absolutely disagree that she would have done under 50M without valentines day. I'm not even sure if bottom line the day was a plus or a minus. Of course some songs had big gains, but for the whole discography idk. Tuesdays this year: 50.8M (yesterday) , 51.3M, 50.8M, 51M, 50.6M, 51.5M, 50.3M (January 3rd) Where exactly is she doing less from week to week last 2 weeks she got a big increase for LH and Midnights increased (plus some viral hits as cardigan). This week she released also the new remix. Plus january saw an increase for almost everyone because of the new algorithm or whatever. LH now is making again the numbers before the video release. Without new releases and without some viral explosion for a song you just make less and less from week too week. Yesterday increase was for S. Valentine day.. but it's not that big cause people listen to love songs playslist in a more massive way than people "have listened" to just Rihanna the day before. Edited February 16, 2023 by vale9001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale9001 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bonicap said: I think it's impossible to compare this Tuesday with the last one because none are regular Tuesdays. Last week had Grammys impact and this one has Valentine's impact plus the negative impact of the Super Bowl (Rihanna still doing 47M and removing a lot of streams for other artists). Now seemingly we have nothing else until the Tour so we can see how stable the streams are. Yeah you see more clearly in the sundays not in the special days 46.8 M 45 M 45.5 M 46M (LH video release week) 45.7 M 45 M At least she doesn't release new songs- remixes or suddenly and old song became a viral top 100 songs she's gonna make less than 45M on next sunday. Edited February 16, 2023 by vale9001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, vale9001 said: last 2 weeks she got a big increase for LH and Midnights increased (plus some viral hits as cardigan). This week she released also the new remix. Plus january saw an increase for almost everyone because of the new algorithm or whatever. LH now is making again the numbers before the video release. Without new releases and without some viral explosion for a song you just make less and less from week too week. Yesterday increase was for S. Valentine day.. but it's not that big cause people listen to love songs playslist in a more massive way than people "have listened" to just Rihanna the day before. No to pretty much everything Just stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, theflying said: ^^^* The post you quoted and your response are really out in left field. Anti-Hero is not “free-falling on radio”. It peaked. It was a monstrous hit - it’s seeing spin losses that are totally normal. It doesn’t need to be “helped”. Its dropping very fast. Too fast to get the year end Hot 100 #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale9001 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: No to pretty much everything Just stop who are you? love story got a 50% increase, lover got 74% increase. The st valentine day boost is there but on st. valentines day people listened to love playlists (there are 2000 of them and and a whole genre section) so you don't see a big catalog increase cause they listen more to love playlists than full albums. As christmas that's just has bigger effect than people just listening to 10 rihanna songs the day before looooool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastedpotential Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, theflying said: ^^^* The post you quoted and your response are really out in left field. Anti-Hero is not “free-falling on radio”. It peaked. It was a monstrous hit - it’s seeing spin losses that are totally normal. It doesn’t need to be “helped”. Compared to other songs that have peaked in the past few months like Unholy, Bad Habit, or I Like You (among others), Anti-Hero has fallen harder and faster from its peak. Hell, Unholy is already above it on multiple formats despite being a month older and peaking earlier. In times like now where some songs (like Stay, As It Was, or Unholy, for instance) seem to have incredible longevity, it's worth trying to figure out why Anti-Hero hasn't performed as well. Things can turn around and it will stabilise sooner or later, but I think a lot of people, including myself, thought that it would have much more gradual losses on its way off the charts. Edited February 16, 2023 by wastedpotential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, vale9001 said: who are you? love story got a 50% increase, lover got 74% increase. The st valentine day boost is there but on st. valentines day people listened to love playlists (there are 2000 of them and and a whole genre section) so you don't see a big catalog increase cause they listen more to love playlists than full albums. As christmas that's just has bigger effect than people just listening to 10 rihanna songs the day before looooool Yeah like I said. Idk if overall her numbers got a boost from v day or not. Its very low either way. Bringing up christmas Thats obviously not in the same universe People listening to Rihanna was easily the main reason for the 3.4M increase from Monday to Tuesday. We will see. If there was a v day boost she should drop today from the 50.8M number. I dont see that happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectSacrifice Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, wastedpotential said: Compared to other songs that have peaked in the past few months like Unholy, Bad Habit, or I Like You (among others), Anti-Hero has fallen harder and faster from its peak. Hell, Unholy is already above it on multiple formats despite being a month older and peaking earlier. In times like now where some songs (like Stay, As It Was, or Unholy, for instance) seem to have incredible longevity, it's worth trying to figure out why Anti-Hero hasn't performed as well. Things can turn around and it will stabilise sooner or later, but I think a lot of people, including myself, thought that it would have much more gradual losses on its way off the charts. There's only 1 station that has AH at power rotation now while the other hits still have like 7 or 8 stations around the same period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonicap Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, vale9001 said: Yeah you see more clearly in the sundays not in the special days 46.8 M 45 M 45.5 M 46M (LH video release week) 45.7 M 45 M At least she doesn't release new songs- remixes or suddenly and old song became a viral top 100 songs she's gonna make less than 45M on next sunday. This Sunday was not a regular Sunday in the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectSacrifice Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 another great update for LHTN finally moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mael Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 cryyying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen99 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, mael said: cryyying at the beginning it sounded so real "you're still doing your acting thing," "no, you didn't tell me" it sounds so real, this **** is so scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theflying Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 3 hours ago, PerfectSacrifice said: There's only 1 station that has AH at power rotation now while the other hits still have like 7 or 8 stations around the same period. The song has been out for about 4 months now and zoomed up to the top of the charts. It’s normal. The GP loves Unholy. Just because it’s not literally the most beloved record of the last several years doesn’t make Anti-Hero’s performance middling. You guys need to recalibrate what you think is good or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Kirbs Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, mael said: cryyying I lost it at Building Murderers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klein Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, theflying said: The song has been out for about 4 months now and zoomed up to the top of the charts. It’s normal. The GP loves Unholy. Just because it’s not literally the most beloved record of the last several years doesn’t make Anti-Hero’s performance middling. You guys need to recalibrate what you think is good or not. Well it's possible to acknowledge Anti-Hero is a smash hit AND that it is falling a bit faster on radio than what could have been expected from a hit of its stature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarthJang Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 3 hours ago, mael said: cryyying How is this even possible? Sounds so real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theflying Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Klein said: Well it's possible to acknowledge Anti-Hero is a smash hit AND that it is falling a bit faster on radio than what could have been expected from a hit of its stature. Okay. Sure. But then the question is: So? Truly — so what? Edited February 16, 2023 by theflying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale9001 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) Most streamed female artists on Spotify on Wednesday (Feb. 15, 2023) #1 @taylorswift13 49.1M last wednsday 51.4 M anti hero is losing streams (as normal), LH has lost the gain from the new video release as all midnights, no new viral song around so she's losing from week to week . And it would have been the same under 50M without St. Valentine on Tuesday Edited February 16, 2023 by vale9001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchanted0 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 folklore long pond session getting Record Store Day release..... we hate to see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klein Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, theflying said: Okay. Sure. But then the question is: So? Truly — so what? ? The topic was Anti-Hero's placement of the H100 YEC. So talking about Anti-Hero's longevity on radio is relevant to the conversation, and the relatively poor longevity means it will not place as high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MardinBeksloy Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, enchanted0 said: folklore long pond session getting Record Store Day release..... we hate to see it anything but Midnights 3AM vinyl poor evermore tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale9001 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, enchanted0 said: folklore long pond session getting Record Store Day release..... we hate to see it Back to top 3 on BB 200? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, vale9001 said: Most streamed female artists on Spotify on Wednesday (Feb. 15, 2023) #1 @taylorswift13 49.1M last wednsday 51.4 M anti hero is losing streams (as normal), LH has lost the gain from the new video release as all midnights, no new viral song around so she's losing from week to week . And it would have been the same under 50M without St. Valentine on Tuesday You were right. Weird. And yikes. 2.3M is a pretty crazy drop suddenly The things you listed dont add up to anything close to 2.3M. Midnights is having a pretty bad week compared to all its other weeks. Surprised the early BB200 prediction was so good But Rihanna is also still doing 40M. Next week will be better hopefully Edited February 16, 2023 by simmnfierzig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniiel Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Anti Hero was dropped by radio quickly because its kind of a meme song, specifically the chorus and the bridge. It can get grating, especially how radio overplays songs.The fact that it’s even as successful as it is despite its context matter… only a talented, melodically gifted songwriter could have made this unrelateable self hate song this boppable. midnight rain and bejesus will change her radio reputation for the better, though Spoiler Very surprised by LH’s middling reception though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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