movie The Little Mermaid (2023) | Makes a BIG streaming splash on Disney+ | 16M views! 🫧🐚

[Price of Fame]

1 minute ago, rp662 said:

Movie Math is going to serve. Grace was looking at a minimum 3 day gross of 100M for it to not be considered a flop. 

Did she say that? Oh dear  

[MAKSIM]

42 minutes ago, Gwendolyn said:

https://twitter.com/BORReport/status/1662851725542457344?r

 

1 Billion is out of the question :((

 

Its going to need strong domestic legs to hit 600 million worldwide. 

[DONTYELLATME]

I think the marketing was really bad , too little and too late. 

[chosensparkles]

Deadline:

While the Rob Marshall-directed update has a 95% verified audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, film ratings websites overseas, including IMDB in the UK, Brazil and Mexico as well as AlloCiné in France, posted advisories during the rollout when negative user reviews appeared in questionable abundance.  

As we noted in our global preview, The Little Mermaid was expected to be more of a domestic play at the outset. However, it’s fairly astonishing to see these overseas reactions — largely believed to be led by internet trolls.

In France, where Little Mermaid launched on Wednesday, AlloCiné wrote, “We are currently observing an unusual distribution of scores which demands the need for caution. We encourage you to make up your own mind about the film.” While not unprecedented, this is a rare move. To be fair, critics at some respected outlets including Libération, Première and Les Inrockuptibles did not like the movie, giving it just one star.

 

https://deadline.com/2023/05/the-little-mermaid-global-opening-review-bombing-international-box-office-1235381992/

[D_Man3379]

I’ll be watching tonight to support! 

 

Racists don’t deserve to be celebrating. 

[BNF91]

3 minutes ago, rp662 said:

Movie Math is going to serve. Grace was looking at a minimum 3 day gross of 100M for it to not be considered a flop. 

Well that's just dumb logic. A movie could gross $95M debut and leg it out to $350M+ or it could debut with $140M but have horrible legs and not even pass $300M. 

 

You think someone like her would be more studious in their analysis than simply above or below $100M debut to consider it a flop or hit. Especially considering the audience scores and extreme lack of PLF play (IMAX, Dolby screens, etc). 

 

 

[Cloudy]

I'm not shocked at the numbers, no one around me has even mentioned it and when I mention it there's an absolute lack of interest

 

 

[MAKSIM]

The biggest problem with the movie is length. Should be 1:45 max. Way too much unnecessary bloat that drags the movie. 

[BNF91]

TLM looks to have played far stronger in regular theatres than IMAX. Makes sense considering the target demographic and also a good sign as the June onslaught of blockbusters steals those IMAX screens each week. 

 

Also it's audience was something like 60/40 female, another great potential sign for legs/repeat viewings. 

 

It should be able to coexist perfectly with the very male centric movies coming this month (Indy, the Flash, Spider verse and Transformers). Elemental is about to be one of the biggest bombs in history so no need to worry about that one either. 

[BNF91]

3 minutes ago, MAKSIM said:

The biggest problem with the movie is length. Should be 1:45 max. Way too much unnecessary bloat that drags the movie. 

Can I ask if this mattered for the remakes of The Lion King (2 hrs), Aladdin (2 hrs 8 min) or Beauty and the Beast (2 hrs 17 min)? 

[chosensparkles]

1 minute ago, BNF91 said:

Can I ask if this mattered for the remakes of The Lion King (2 hrs), Aladdin (2 hrs 8 min) or Beauty and the Beast (2 hrs 17 min)? 

yeah the length of TLM isn't a problem imo

the racists are

[Dr. Alexander]

10 minutes ago, Cloudy said:

I'm not shocked at the numbers, no one around me has even mentioned it and when I mention it there's an absolute lack of interest

 

 

The numbers are fantastic domestically, unless you live outside of the US?

[Aethereal]

One big problem was Disney using so much money. Be more strategic and cautious, they knew the film would lose at least 25% of it's potential box office at the bare minimum.

A $170M budget at most.

 

Black Panther 2, for instance, had a $200M budget and $55M for video costs so it seems that most of the money is not even spend on animation as some of us would assume. 

 

Super Mario's animation was amazing and it had A-list voice-actors with only $100M meanwhile Disney and Pixar movies usually spend $150M-$200M on their animated movie. So a great chunk of the money is spend in an irresponsible nature generally. Pixar's upcoming horrible looking movie has a budget of $200M and Mario looks much more appealing than it, with half of the money. 

 

So many things were unnecessary on the movie.

Edited May 28, 2023 by Aristotle

[MAKSIM]

6 minutes ago, BNF91 said:

Can I ask if this mattered for the remakes of The Lion King (2 hrs), Aladdin (2 hrs 8 min) or Beauty and the Beast (2 hrs 17 min)? 

I haven’t seen any of those remakes. I saw this in theaters at a 8:15 showing, which started at 8:40 after previews and then didn’t get out till around 11. Simply too long for what they added (Scuttle’s song, Eric’s song, etc.)

[BNF91]

I think Disney would only be worried if this really bombed, like $200M global total gross. That would be hundreds of millions needed to recoup from merch. But even if this breaks even at $550-600M or even loses a bit, it will be fine.

 

This is also the first Remake released post Disney+ proliferation. They will constantly have to contend with those who now choose to just watch it on Disney+ in a couple months, rather than buy a movie ticket. 

 

The guys at Box Office Theory, while a bit disappointed with the debut, are also pretty satisfied with the fact that Disney can indeed get audiences back to theatres. A $120M Memorial Day weekend debut is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. It's the 4th or 5th biggest in history, like..

[V$.]

23 minutes ago, chosensparkles said:

Deadline:

While the Rob Marshall-directed update has a 95% verified audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, film ratings websites overseas, including IMDB in the UK, Brazil and Mexico as well as AlloCiné in France, posted advisories during the rollout when negative user reviews appeared in questionable abundance.  

As we noted in our global preview, The Little Mermaid was expected to be more of a domestic play at the outset. However, it’s fairly astonishing to see these overseas reactions — largely believed to be led by internet trolls.

In France, where Little Mermaid launched on Wednesday, AlloCiné wrote, “We are currently observing an unusual distribution of scores which demands the need for caution. We encourage you to make up your own mind about the film.” While not unprecedented, this is a rare move. To be fair, critics at some respected outlets including Libération, Première and Les Inrockuptibles did not like the movie, giving it just one star.

 

https://deadline.com/2023/05/the-little-mermaid-global-opening-review-bombing-international-box-office-1235381992/

[BNF91]

2 minutes ago, MAKSIM said:

I haven’t seen any of those remakes. I saw this in theaters at a 8:15 showing, which started at 8:40 after previews and then didn’t get out till around 11. Simply too long for what they added (Scuttle’s song, Eric’s song, etc.)

Right, but this just sounds like a personal issue rather than a universal one, considering this didn't seem to matter for all the other remakes. An 8:40 showing of all those films would have you leaving the theatre at the same time. 

 

It's not a good reason for why this film is seeing some underperformance compared to its predecessors. Not to say it wasn't a reason for you. 

[FolkLover1989]

The movie flopped/underperformed in most part of the world except USA 

 

It's really sad 

 

Disney should have marketed movie well

[monologueNacafe]

Racism

[GraceRandolph]

They should've cast a star to play Ursula or Eric. BATB had Emma Watson, whereas Halle Bailey is only known in pop music circles.

[GraceRandolph]

Now we are all going to have to endure another round of GOWOKEGOBROKE circle jerking.

 

[vale9001]

if it makes 570-600M ww is not a bomb. It's just disappointing but disnney can make money after, while some families don't want to spend 60 dollars now can spend 10 dollars for disney plus. 

 

but it's in some way the end for live actions on the big screen if the global market is not there. 

Edited May 28, 2023 by vale9001

[Arcadius]

8 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said:

The movie flopped/underperformed in most part of the world except USA 

 

It's really sad 

 

Disney should have marketed movie well

I really don't think marketing was the issue here. I mean, I saw this film advertised everywhere.

 

I'll wait for the second week to see how it holds.

[monologueNacafe]

Just now, Arcadius said:

I really don't think marketing was the issue here. I mean, I saw this film advertised everywhere.

 

I'll wait for the second week to see how it holds.

Yeah, I’m not really sure how the ad campaign could’ve been significantly better. I think people either did or didn’t want to see it (for obvious reasons).

[GraceRandolph]

It's clear that Disney needs to get their budgets under control. 300 MILLION FOR INDIANA JONES 5????