GraceRandolph Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Kamala WILL be the next nominee after Biden. She will obviously lose the general in a landslide, no matter who her opponent is, but she will have the path to the nomination cleared for her just like Hillary did. Anyone who runs against her will be branded a sexist and a racist by her toxic fan club and by identity-obsessed black women in the media. So you think all black women will support Kamala? I don’t think so at all. A progressive challenger has a shot, Kamala will tank in a primary.
ClashAndBurn Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 3 hours ago, frenchyisback said: Trump being around 40%-44% his entire presidency. THE LEFT: Trump is still popular. He'll win reelection. Dems sucks Biden being around 40%-55% his entire presidency. THE LEFT: Biden is still unpopular. He'll lose reelection. Dems sucks Trump had a fake investigation branding him a traitor to the country practically his entire presidency and it ultimately went nowhere. His first impeachment was even over Trump wanting to leverage sending arms to Ukraine, which ultimately nobody cares about, and support for him went up when he was exonerated. Biden is less popular than Trump after he called Charlottesville neonazis “very fine people,” and he’s not even under investigation for anything. Yet. When the impeachments start next January though, he will be.
slik Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 Roe vs Wade and the attack on LGBTQ rights pissed me off enough to do something I never thought I'd do: Change my party affiliation from Unaffiliated to Democrat. Thought I'd just be a progressive liberal and also unaffiliated my whole life so I never got requests to donate money but plans changed...(still not donating money tho)
ClashAndBurn Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: So you think all black women will support Kamala? I don’t think so at all. A progressive challenger has a shot, Kamala will tank in a primary. I’m talking about black women who have media platforms: Joy Reid, Jemele Hill, Whoopi Goldberg, to name a few. They are influential in Democratic politics and will bully anyone who dares to run against Kamala as a racist/sexist deplorable. As for black women in general, I mean… they came out big for Biden and they’re basically the only group that actually still loves him. They also find Kamala inspiring for being the first among them to get a seat at the table decades after Shirley Chisholm, so why wouldn’t they support her?
GraceRandolph Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: I’m talking about black women who have media platforms: Joy Reid, Jemele Hill, Whoopi Goldberg, to name a few. They are influential in Democratic politics and will bully anyone who dares to run against Kamala as a racist/sexist deplorable. As for black women in general, I mean… they came out big for Biden and they’re basically the only group that actually still loves him. They also find Kamala inspiring for being the first among them to get a seat at the table decades after Shirley Chisholm, so why wouldn’t they support her? Kamala just isn’t popular, and she can’t handle questions or debates that well. For all we know Kamala could be challenged by a black woman or a surging progressive a la Bernie, she won’t stand a chance, she doesn’t have the history that Joe Biden had.
ClashAndBurn Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 1 minute ago, GraceRandolph said: Kamala just isn’t popular, and she can’t handle questions or debates that well. For all we know Kamala could be challenged by a black woman or a surging progressive a la Bernie, she won’t stand a chance, she doesn’t have the history that Joe Biden had. At the end of the day, South Carolina black voters will get behind her when Jim Clyburn gives her his endorsement, and the race will be over from there. If Bernie runs again, he already has been tarred with the baggage of being anti-black and anti-woman, and he’s the only progressive with the bonafides to even be able to stage a primary run against her. Nobody younger than him is going to want to throw their careers away over fighting a primary they would be smeared for running. And if it were another black woman, she would also be dragged for trying to steal Kamala’s moment that she’s “owed to her” away from her. The DNC will clear the field for her and make sure she’s the nominee. Doesn’t matter that she’s unpopular with general voters. So was Hillary.
ClashAndBurn Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 I despise Joe Biden. Truly the worst ******* leader of our lifetime.
frenchyisback Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Communion said: The way Kassi vs frenchyisback would be the ultimate death much over which affluent centrist could deflect harder from the fact that they got everything they wanted and their ideology still resulted in everyone's lives getting worse. Honey, I didn’t want everybody & their mommas to get free money for a whole year to stay home and do nothing. Your leftists policies started this inflation mess. For once Jeff Bezos is right. Joe Manchin saved Biden from the worst of the inflationary hell the left were trying to send us into. Edited July 4, 2022 by frenchyisback
Communion Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, frenchyisback said: Joe Manchin saved Biden ddd see even the same talking points kjnjnjknjj girls they STRESSED.
GraceRandolph Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, frenchyisback said: Honey, I didn’t want everybody & their mommas to get free money for a whole year to stay home and so nothing. You leftists policies started this inflation mess. For once Jeff Bezos is right. Joe Manchin saved Biden from the worst of the inflationary hell the left were trying to send us into. You wanted more children in poverty and more people homeless? Now that I believe. And when you are praising Jeff Bezos and Joe Manchin you are in a sad state. No wonder people are panning Joe Biden.
GraceRandolph Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, frenchyisback said: Jeff Bezos is right. Joe Manchin saved Biden Woooooow what a world we live in
Kassi Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 5 hours ago, slik said: Roe vs Wade and the attack on LGBTQ rights pissed me off enough to do something I never thought I'd do: Change my party affiliation from Unaffiliated to Democrat. Thought I'd just be a progressive liberal and also unaffiliated my whole life so I never got requests to donate money but plans changed...(still not donating money tho) This is exactly what we need. People fighting and engaged at all level of politics. Keke Palmer put it so eloquently.
Communion Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: You wanted more children in poverty and more people homeless? Now that I believe. And when you are praising Jeff Bezos and Joe Manchin you are in a sad state. No wonder people are panning Joe Biden. He was months ago complaining about regulations in DC during COVID forcing him to have to give paid sick leave to his part-time workers (who he was denying full-time hours and thus benefits to) part of his attempted "Uber but for house-cleaning services!!" business. It's like cartoon villain type ****. Bordering on Christian Walker parody. At least the good sis Kassi is ingrained to the social signifiers to restrain the vulgarities of the ills of conservatism "centrism". Tethered versions of each other, if you will. One overtly dedicated to avoiding social faux pas and the other purposefully intent on hitting them all. Edited July 4, 2022 by Communion
GraceRandolph Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, Communion said: He was months ago complaining about regulations in DC during COVID forcing him to have to give paid sick leave to his part-time workers (who he was denying full-time hours and thus benefits to) part of his attempted "Uber but for house-cleaning services!!" business. It's like cartoon villain type ****. Bordering on Christian Walker parody. At least the good sis Kassi is ingrained to the social signifiers to restrain the vulgarities of the ills of conservatism "centrism". Tethered versions of each other, if you will. One overtly dedicated to avoiding social faux pas and the other purposefully intent on hitting them all. This is why these conservative Democrats always focus on the abstract rhetoric and talking points, as well as platitudes as opposed to the impact on actual LIVES. It’s all just a veneer.
Kassi Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 There’s nothing to be stressed over, mamas. If you think inflation spells doom for Democrats in Nov, despite Republican extremism on full display, it follows logically that Manchin did Dems a solid. Not saying they SHOULDN’T have done BBB. But even understanding that things would level out in 2-3 years time, Bernie’s $3.2 trillion stimulus bill would inevitably be inflationary. For instance, a family of four could rightly use that extra $600/month on gas or baby formula, driving the price of either much higher than they are today and exacerbating the demand crisis. Supply would would eventually catch up (since we don’t live in a communist hell), but only after some time.
Kassi Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: This is why these conservative Democrats always focus on the abstract rhetoric and talking points, as well as platitudes as opposed to the impact on actual LIVES. It’s all just a veneer. Abstract rhetoric and talking points is literally the crux of the so-called progressive movement. Like have you seen AOCs posts? Or even glanced over Bernie’s (debunked) theory of change? These people are NOT serious
Harrier Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 Frankly speaking, the best thing that can happen for progressives (& honestly all democrats who want to win in 2024), is if Biden dies of natural causes in the next year I genuinely think Kamala would lose the primary
Kassi Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 24 minutes ago, Sergi91 said: The way Harris stays losing dddmjjn Yeah, it was bad for her. It was really bad for her
Communion Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: This is why these conservative Democrats always focus on the abstract rhetoric and talking points, as well as platitudes as opposed to the impact on actual LIVES. It’s all just a veneer. It's just all so unserious. Again, these people got everything they wanted, and still blame others. So to see people who cheered Biden on as some unique strategist and proof of the success of their theory of change that is neoliberalism now range from being like "actually it was good Biden's agenda was halted, 4d chess, girls! " to then being like "actually I've hated Biden ever since he gave you ugly poor fucks that $600!!!" it's like... It's like John Fetterman mocking Connor Lamb - you just have to laugh at them to disempower them. Edited July 4, 2022 by Communion
Kassi Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Harrier said: Frankly speaking, the best thing that can happen for progressives (& honestly all democrats who want to win in 2024), is if Biden dies of natural causes in the next year I genuinely think Kamala would lose the primary Honestly don’t think progressives can win anymore elections after this little episode in high gas prices. Unless they’re willing to unequivocally say: “DRILL, baby drill!”. Bc Americans won’t want to return to this time anytime soon. It’s going to become a sticking point and I don’t think that progressives can untangle themselves from the interests of extreme climate organizations like the Sunrise Movement.
ClashAndBurn Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 46 minutes ago, Sergi91 said: The most unrealistic part of this poll is the idea that Kamala would fare better against Trump than Biden. What a farce
rihannabiggestfan Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 40 minutes ago, Harrier said: Frankly speaking, the best thing that can happen for progressives (& honestly all democrats who want to win in 2024), is if Biden dies of natural causes in the next year I genuinely think Kamala would lose the primary I agree with all of this tbh. I get that her 2020 primary run was similar to Biden's 2008 and 1988 primary runs (aka absolute BOMBS), and Biden got the nom after that - but the main difference is that Biden was VP to OBAMA, while Kamala is VP to the most PANNED president in modern US history, so that should be taken into consideration (plus she's even worse at interviews than Biden and just generally awful) 16 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: The most unrealistic part of this poll is the idea that Kamala would fare better against Trump than Biden. What a farce That would be an unrealistic kii, but isn't it saying the opposite? Trump beating Kamala in the popular vote would be an Electoral College landslide/murder
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