FrederickGa Posted April 1 Posted April 1 11 hours ago, Chemist said: CHINA, JAPAN & SOUTH KOREA have been on each others throats for millennias and were just keeping it diplomatic only for them to lock arms against the Orange Bully.. Oh DUMP, the CLOWN that You Are 4
Harrier Posted April 1 Posted April 1 I knew the administration would be bad on immigration, welfare cuts and general incompetence, but what has surprised me is the willingness to outright batter the economy. Trump will be the next Bush in '07 if he stays on this path 1
Chemist Posted April 1 Posted April 1 1 hour ago, FameFatale said: Cory Booker still going 12 hours later 1
Gaia Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Cory Booker live on TT still has 28k viewers. NGL this is good publicity at least so they need to do more of this. I think doing this on the Wisconsin voting day might be very helpful
FameFatale Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Some view numbers Sen Booker is pulling as of 9:30 am EST His official accounts Twitter - 48k YouTube - 28k TikTok - 37k (57 million likes) Others AP (YouTube) - 15k MSNBC (YouTube) - 10k
Armani. Posted April 1 Posted April 1 This is my current estimates so far for Gen Z Men Of Color unfortunately @Communion @Relampago. AP Votecast underestimated the shift of Latino men in general, and Telemundo is looking accurate for under 50 with more data coming in, but overall Latino men should drop from 57% Biden in 2020 to 45% Kamala. Overestimated the shift of Black Men in general (Votecast had 25% of Black Men nationwide for Trump( up from 12% in 2020), and 35% Trump for Gen Z). Trump should be very close to 20% overall this cycle ( at 19%), if not it exactly. The overall Asian tab from Votecast on tufts is ~63% Kamala looking at all the age groups, which is too highEven in the biggest liberal cities, like Dallas, NYC and Los Angeles it's far from that. Still though, relative to 2020, it looks like Gen Z Asian Men were the only ones from the 3 groups that voted more liberal than overall 50+ counterparts 2
Thuggin Posted April 1 Posted April 1 8 minutes ago, Armani. said: This is my current estimates so far for Gen Z Men Of Color AP Votecast underestimated the shift of Latino men in general, and Telemundo is looking accurate for under 50 with more data coming in, but overall Latino men should drop from 57% Biden in 2020 to 45% Kamala. Overestimated the shift of Black Men in general (Votecast had 25% of Black Men nationwide for Trump( up from 12% in 2020), and 35% Trump for Gen Z). Trump should be very close to 20% overall this cycle, if not it exactly. The overall Asian tab from Votecast on tufts is ~63% Kamala looking at all the age groups, which is too highEven in the biggest liberal cities, like Dallas, NYC and Los Angeles it's far from that. Still though, relative to 2020, it looks like Gen Z Asian Men were the only ones voted more liberal than overall 50+ counterparts It will be interesting to see how these numbers shift in special elections / midterm elections / elections where Trump isn't on the ticket. It's just hard for me to believe young men across the board (maybe except white men but even then) will be this motivated to vote for generic Republicans 2
on the line Posted April 1 Posted April 1 6 minutes ago, Thuggin said: It will be interesting to see how these numbers shift in special elections / midterm elections / elections where Trump isn't on the ticket. It's just hard for me to believe young men across the board (maybe except white men but even then) will be this motivated to vote for generic Republicans It's hard for me to believe they will even vote, lbr. 1
FameFatale Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Election Day for FL districts 1 and 6 and Wisconsin Supreme Court! Vote if you are in these places. 3
Armani. Posted April 1 Posted April 1 27 minutes ago, Thuggin said: It will be interesting to see how these numbers shift in special elections / midterm elections / elections where Trump isn't on the ticket. It's just hard for me to believe young men across the board (maybe except white men but even then) will be this motivated to vote for generic Republicans These numbers probably won't be the same in midterms. Then again, after the 2020 shift of overall Hispanic voters it just remained stable in 2022, it didn't gain back so I guess we'll see. Also Gen Z White men were already voting Trump in a slight majority in 2020. I'm still not sure on the exact # they shifted this time still because it's too much conflicting data on the age groups. Like David Shor has 18 year old White men voting 75% Trump, but Votecast has 63% for 18 to 29. While the exit poll has 53%. But White voters overall, only dropped about 1% for Dems, for White men it's probably closer to 2% so I'm scratching my head on how it's going to add up realistically
bunnyeyes Posted April 1 Posted April 1 FYI, know that if there is any weirdness with the WI election today it'll confirm American democracy as dead. 1
anti-bitch Posted April 1 Posted April 1 41 minutes ago, Armani. said: These numbers probably won't be the same in midterms. Then again, after the 2020 shift of overall Hispanic voters it just remained stable in 2022, it didn't gain back so I guess we'll see. Also Gen Z White men were already voting Trump in a slight majority in 2020. I'm still not sure on the exact # they shifted this time still because it's too much conflicting data on the age groups. Like David Shor has 18 year old White men voting 75% Trump, but Votecast has 63% for 18 to 29. While the exit poll has 53%. Do they poll nonvoters? I mean people who didn't even register to vote? That would be interesting data to see. It seems like voters in general were more conservative this time, but that doesn't necessarily reflect the reality among people who don't vote. Seeing that 20 point shift among Asian voters towards Trump in New York City doesn't sound realistic. There must have been a sharp drop in turnout from those who don't support Trump but also couldn't bring themselves to vote Harris, not just in NYC but everywhere.
Radical Pessimism Posted April 1 Posted April 1 1 hour ago, Thuggin said: It will be interesting to see how these numbers shift in special elections / midterm elections / elections where Trump isn't on the ticket. It's just hard for me to believe young men across the board (maybe except white men but even then) will be this motivated to vote for generic Republicans Yeah, Trump is a special case and their leader. That's why I think the party will struggle after him. We already saw some try to copy his attitude (Florida's governor) and failed bigly. 1
Armani. Posted April 1 Posted April 1 1 hour ago, anti-***** said: Do they poll nonvoters? I mean people who didn't even register to vote? That would be interesting data to see. It seems like voters in general were more conservative this time, but that doesn't necessarily reflect the reality among people who don't vote. Seeing that 20 point shift among Asian voters towards Trump in New York City doesn't sound realistic. There must have been a sharp drop in turnout from those who don't support Trump but also couldn't bring themselves to vote Harris, not just in NYC but everywhere. Most don't because you likely aren't going to vote unless you're at least registered to. There was a sharp drop in turnout, but to put in perspective Trump gained slightly more than 40% of those Democratic votes Kamala lost in Asian Precincts in NYC. The other 60% just stayed him.
Vroom Vroom Posted April 1 Posted April 1 24 minutes ago, Radical Pessimism said: Yeah, Trump is a special case and their leader. That's why I think the party will struggle after him. We already saw some try to copy his attitude (Florida's governor) and failed bigly. DeSantis failed because Trump was in the race. If Trump didn't run, we would probably have a president DeSantis right now. He successfully filled the void Trump left when he disappeared for a short period of time in 2021.
Thuggin Posted April 1 Posted April 1 15 minutes ago, dabunique said: Nothing pisses me off more than the term "school choice" You already have the choice to send your kids to a private school! You just have to pay for it! Forcing taxpayers to fund rich kids' private educations at the expense of already underfunded public schools doesn't give them a choice at all. I doubt that's the priority for Wisconsinites actually. Here in Tennessee we even voted it down before the state legislature and governor shoved it down our throats regardless. 3
dabunique Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Just now, Thuggin said: Nothing pisses me off more than the term "school choice" You already have the choice to send your kids to a private school! You just have to pay for it! Forcing taxpayers to fund rich kids' private educations at the expense of already underfunded public schools doesn't give them a choice at all. all da money they waste on vouchers could be goin to actual public schools smh
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