news 2024 US Election Megathread 🇺🇸🏛️

[Communion]

4 minutes ago, MAKSIM said:

You're so politically lost in the world

Sister you literally spent 2023 screeching at anyone who suggested Biden should face an actual primary all because your loyalties lie with a foreign nation.

 

On 3/16/2023 at 11:15 PM, MAKSIM said:

I don't idolize Joe Biden, so this really doesn't mean anything to me. I'm sure there are better spoiler candidates to run than Marianne Williamson, who abuses her staff. Just find someone else who supports Medicare for All if that's your purity test. 

And the dementia-riddled geriatric didn't even give you the exact outcome of foreign interference you made *your* single-issue vote. 

 

We're in a new era of politics. Please understand that anyone who made their political identity "actually combatting Russia IS America's #1 priority" is now in political exile and a political pariah. 

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[MAKSIM]

5 minutes ago, Communion said:

Sister you literally spent 2023 screeching at anyone who suggested Biden should face an actual primary all because your loyalties lie with a foreign nation.

 

And the dementia-riddled geriatric didn't even give you the exact outcome of foreign interference your made *your* single-issue vote. 

The quote proves the point. If progressivism was so alive, you could field a better candidate than Marianne Williamson  there was NO ONE else to launch a credible challenge?

 

I don't care about Biden - but the progressive savior was Marianne Williamson? Who had an equally horrible position on Israel? I thought you cared about the Palestinian people, apparently not. Dead movement confirmed. 
 

 

 

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[Communion]

Speaking of other neocons who are now spiraling as they realize political retribution is coming to their doorstep.

 

Liberals ensuring that Democrats will never see the presidency or control a chamber of Congress until the 2030s all cause they centered voices like this and Liz Cheney.

 

[Princess Aurora]

7 minutes ago, storminthedark said:

I do actually think Trump's historical resonance as an individual figure is overstated. He'll definitely be analysed and remembered for changing the American political sphere and shifting the Republican party but I think his actions outside the Presidency will be more recognised than his actions over his two terms (the next four years pending though…). Trump and Bush seem more similar figures to me in terms of 9/11, Afghanistan and the war on terror overshadowing Bush as a personal figure invoked by parties afterwards, Trump is January 6, MAGA movement and disinformation. But that depends on how the next 4 years go and what type of Republican party succeeds Trumpism.

Yes and no, I think his first term was messed up and will be remembered as warning signs for certain things. The second term will tell a lot for sure

[wastedpotential]

17 minutes ago, Vermillion said:

I actually disagree.

I'm referring to Cotton, fwiw. I guess it depends how competitive the 2028 primary ends up being, but there's no way someone like Hawley, if given the chance, doesn't go in with a "well you're the one who ignored the will of the American people to force through a TikTok ban with Democrats", though if this really ends up being resolved by tomorrow then it might not matter. 

[MAKSIM]

https://progressives.house.gov/caucus-members
 

omg, these are all deadend political losers. Were really doomed  

[Vermillion]

@wastedpotential We're talking about a Cotton presidency in a primary competition. OK I get it. Hawley and Cotton are going in very different directions.

 

It's going to be a fascinating primary.

 

MAGA's confused because he's now getting billions from a crypto outlet thanks to a Chinese businessman.

 

The question is how the former gets that to translate.

 

Notice also that we're not discussing Vance in any of these conversations. It's not a coincidence.

[wastedpotential]

1 minute ago, Vermillion said:

@wastedpotential We're talking about a Cotton presidency in a primary competition. OK I get it. Hawley and Cotton are going in very different directions.

 

It's going to be a fascinating primary.

 

MAGA's confused because he's now getting billions from a crypto outlet thanks to a Chinese businessman.

 

The question is how the former gets that to translate.

 

Notice also that we're not discussing Vance in any of these conversations. It's not a coincidence.

Yeah, unless something radical changes, Vance has been relegated to "the pick my sons wanted", and isn't considered a serious successor by anyone not directly on his team. I do believe Vance is exponentially more intelligent than most give him credit for and that he'll be waiting to try for the top seat once Trump's brain gets flushed, but I don't think MAGA will be receptive unless circumstances change. I think it's Hawley's to lose (he has the temperament and is a master of the rhetoric, and is probably following the radical winds closer than anyone else) unless there's some major skeleton in his closet, but we'll see in 2026, I guess. It's going to be nasty. 

 

The crypto thing will definitely be an interesting vector to follow. It hasn't been super widely reported, but the Biden admin has done a fair amount to open backchannel communications with the Chinese on issues of mutual agreement, and I have to wonder if, even as he slaps massive tariffs and spirals the public-facing relationship into a full blown trade war (if not... war), that his lines of communication with this billionaire (and the rest of the Chinese owner class) will remain relatively strong. The news about Trump and Xi talking about things like Fentanyl and the deficit probably won't go far, but it's something to keep an eye on. 

 

[Vermillion]

@wastedpotential

 

Tom Cotton, Josh Hawley, and J.D. Vance are going to rip each other to shreds. I guarantee it.

 

And I'm looking forward to it.

 

I give it a year and a half.

[ClashAndBurn]

7 minutes ago, Vermillion said:

@wastedpotential We're talking about a Cotton presidency in a primary competition. OK I get it. Hawley and Cotton are going in very different directions.

 

It's going to be a fascinating primary.

 

MAGA's confused because he's now getting billions from a crypto outlet thanks to a Chinese businessman.

 

The question is how the former gets that to translate.

 

Notice also that we're not discussing Vance in any of these conversations. It's not a coincidence.

Meanwhile the primary for the other side is going to be a horror show where Kamala Harris and Josh Shapiro each try to out-Republican one another while Nina Turner and Marianne Williamson suck up all the progressive oxygen with a combined <5% of the vote.
 

Im not joking when I say I predict Pete Buttigieg will be the most left "viable" candidate, and he'll hit an insurmountable brick wall as immediately as South Carolina. Bleak af  

[Marianah Adkins]

Neocon libtards in this forum are losing it with the way they are now espousing right wing dictatorship talking points  You already have tankies heralding capitalistic China as some "socialist paradise" but I didnt expect libs to also uphold that country for their "effectiveness".  I mean you know what the say when you scratch a lib, you get a nazi. 

 

Yea we get it progressivism is dead hence its pathetic to see libs still losing electorally and culturally to an orange fascist buffoon, despite Jill Stein being an irrelevant spoiler. They literally destroyed the Democratic Party brand just to protect their precious overpaid out of touch consultants who cant do their job well, their precious corporate NGOs who havent done **** but sow further division for virtue signalling and of course their precious Israel who are fuming that the orange buffoon stopped them temporarily from living out their Hitlerite delusions. 

 

For all the resistance **** the libs love talking about, they ironically plunged the country deeper into fascism thanks to their incompetence and smugness. 

[ClashAndBurn]

4 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

Yeah, unless something radical changes, Vance has been relegated to "the pick my sons wanted", and isn't considered a serious successor by anyone not directly on his team. I do believe Vance is exponentially more intelligent than most give him credit for and that he'll be waiting to try for the top seat once Trump's brain gets flushed, but I don't think MAGA will be receptive unless circumstances change. I think it's Hawley's to lose (he has the temperament and is a master of the rhetoric, and is probably following the radical winds closer than anyone else) unless there's some major skeleton in his closet, but we'll see in 2026, I guess. It's going to be nasty. 

 

The crypto thing will definitely be an interesting vector to follow. It hasn't been super widely reported, but the Biden admin has done a fair amount to open backchannel communications with the Chinese on issues of mutual agreement, and I have to wonder if, even as he slaps massive tariffs and spirals the public-facing relationship into a full blown trade war (if not... war), that his lines of communication with this billionaire (and the rest of the Chinese owner class) will remain relatively strong. The news about Trump and Xi talking about things like Fentanyl and the deficit probably won't go far, but it's something to keep an eye on. 

 

Brian Kemp will also be a threat once he vanquishes Ossoff. Don't forget about him either @Vermillion

He very easily wins the popular vote over Shapiro in 2028 and it won't be remotely close.

[wastedpotential]

6 minutes ago, Vermillion said:

@wastedpotential

 

Tom Cotton, Josh Hawley, and J.D. Vance are going to rip each other to shreds. I guarantee it.

 

And I'm looking forward to it.

 

I give it a year and a half.

I hope one of them murders Rafael so hard on stage that he just doesn't bother running in 2030, for personal reasons 

 

We'll also see Youngkin try, and probably someone out of the cabinet (maybe Burgum, since he's got growing recognition, even though Interior Sec isn't that forward facing), and for the sake of Ossoff I hope Kemp goes for it too

 

Edit, forgot that Ossoff is in 26... never mind on that one 

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[wastedpotential]

3 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

Im not joking when I say I predict Pete Buttigieg will be the most left "viable" candidate, and he'll hit an insurmountable brick wall as immediately as South Carolina. Bleak af  

@Cruel Summer sister, you need to suit up for your kamikaze mission 

[Marianah Adkins]

3 minutes ago, Vermillion said:

@wastedpotential

 

Tom Cotton, Josh Hawley, and J.D. Vance are going to rip each other to shreds. I guarantee it.

 

And I'm looking forward to it.

 

I give it a year and a half.

The MAGA coalition is surpringsly very shaky on a lot of grounds. Populist nationalism of their base is the antithesis of the globalist libertarianism their establishment wants. Lets see if the Democrats are competent enough to make some inroads in that fracture (which I doubt lmao)

[wastedpotential]

2 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

Brian Kemp will also be a threat once he vanquishes Ossoff. Don't forget about him either @Vermillion

He very easily wins the popular vote over Shapiro in 2028 and it won't be remotely close.

It depends on how much goodwill Trump still has in 2028. I could see a loud enough minority of the far right kicking up a fuss over the 2020 election "betrayal" to keep him from winning the primary in the end, but I guess we'll have to see.

[Communion]

11 minutes ago, MAKSIM said:

https://progressives.house.gov/caucus-members
 

omg, these are all deadend political losers. Were really doomed  

Oh sis you don't got to tell us about the Congressional Progressive Caucus being losers. They always have been!

 

Don't even got to be progressive to be a member!

 

 

 

Communist Party of China >>>> Congressional Progressive Caucus

[Cruel Summer]

14 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

@Cruel Summer sister, you need to suit up for your kamikaze mission 

not this being the first thing I see after this site was down for me for nearly a ******* day, oh Pete Butt when I catch you

[storminthedark]

34 minutes ago, Princess Aurora said:

Yes and no, I think his first term was messed up and will be remembered as warning signs for certain things. The second term will tell a lot for sure

I'm not trying to understate how bad Trump/MAGA will be in office by any means, I'm just saying in terms of retrospective history I'm not sure how much he'll be remembered, but more the movements he started. It hinges on if the Republican party set up Trump 2.0 in Vance come 2028 or if they try and revert back to pre-Trumpism. He's always going to be a singular figure because of his cult of personality (which is partly why I don't think Vance trying to emulate Trump will work) but I don't know if that'll be the main takeaway from this period of time for future historians.

[FameFatale]

 

[ClashAndBurn]

This is even better than the Ruthkanda Forever parody tweets  

[Virgos Groove]

3 hours ago, wastedpotential said:

Toppling the regime in Venezuela (and Cuba, tbh) and replacing them with a shill would be just about the only way to reasonably make mass deportations (of Venezuelans and of non-Venezuelans) work, in terms of distance and hypothetical capacity. A friendly Venezuela with some degree of fiscal normalcy is about as close to a Rwanda-style "solution" as the US will ever be able to get. 

 

Of course, that's dependent upon the power vacuum not being immediately filled by remnants of SEBIN or one of the gangs, and the US doesn't exactly have a strong recent history with state building 

Omg, hi, George W. Bush! Big fan of your painting work!

[Armani?]

Another huge L for Biden and Democrats with Tik Tok just promoting Trump in their messages

[wastedpotential]

17 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said:

Omg, hi, George W. Bush! Big fan of your painting work!

ddd there's truly nothing a Republican president loves more than flushing hundreds of billions of dollars down the drain in an effort to reshape the world in their image 

[Chemist]

Tragic