Communion Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ClashAndBurn said: Disagree. Him profiteering off his dad’s name and staying out of jail for drug possession crimes that regular Americans would get life without parole for if he wasn’t the then-Vice President, now-President’s son is kind of a big deal. If the laws aren’t going to be changed, and marijuana is going to stay illegal because Hunter Biden’s president father views it as a gateway drug that should remain illegal, then he should face the same consequences as everyone else. The same consequences that Brittney Grimer would face at home for all the moralizing that the Biden Administration is doing against Russia for… merely treating an American in possession of drugs the same way they would at home, like a caged animal devoid of humanity. Its the hypocrisy of it all, to me. Hunter Biden shouldn’t be walking free when anyone else would be in jail for life for the things he has gotten away with. The corruption. The nepotism. All of it. 57 minutes ago, Espresso said: I'm with @ClashAndBurn on this. The duplicity depresses turnout from the base, which is already pissed with Joe on numerous fronts, starting with black women and student loans. Any further media exposure on this is a problem, period. And we don't even need to get into his Latino stats. Oh, to clarify, I was speaking morally, not electorally. I really have no clue or interest in the probably numerous crimes the failson or faildaugther of Biden have committed. If anything, I'd be up for a deal - Hunter can avoid hard forced labor and re-education for his insider dealing and lobbyist crimes if Biden forgives not just $50k in student debt but ALL student debt. What's it gonna be Joe, the money or the boy? Edited August 10, 2022 by Communion
Kassi Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 Talking about Hunter Biden and Hillary Clinton when the doors are closing in on Trump. Ahsjsjsj It’s like some can’t help but turn good things into bad things for Democrats. It’s giving Will Stancil When Democrats are talking about kitchen table issues like inflation, they should be focused on fascism! When Democrats are focused on fascism, it’s “Americans don’t care about Jan 6th!”. Like Beyoncé said: flip-flop, flippy, flip-floppin' ass *****
Communion Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kassi said: Talking about Medicare For All Always a good time to talk about America being the only developed country in the world without universal healthcare. Most of us are not corporate executives with gold star insurance packages benefiting from blood money.
Communion Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) Though to touch on Trump's endless corruption, it really does speak to how liberalism eats itself alive by creating problems its mechanisms like capitalism can't actually defeat or solve when you have American conservatives using the bipartisan language crafted to slander and villainize America's "state enemies". The way you can just hear the way "third world" is meant as a slur off his lips: Ironically Trump would be the perfect lesson for why the state should always exercise authoritarian control of government to stop and limit the risk of those who wish to dismantle it entirely, but Americans have too much exceptionalism and Marvel syndrome to see. "Democracy is the only valid form of government!! Only thuggish dictators arrest their enemies!!" "...so you don't want Trump to go jail???" "No, no, no, of course. I'm talking about cigar-smoking Latin crooks who ban people from elections!" ".....so you're saying you think Trump should still have the right to run for president?!?" "Oh uhh no no! I just mean how foreign governments are bad and how we're mostly good - well, I mean except for Trump! I mean, him and his supporters literally tried to overthrow our government and undo our election!" "......exactly, how could anyone defend a foreign nation trying to overthrow a country's government just because it won't bend to the geopolitical and economic whims of a very powerful enemy. That's immoral." "Exactly!" No, instead we get the perpetually inept concept of liberalism where the right of speech Trump used to call for overthrowing the government is too important to throw him in jail forever. Edited August 10, 2022 by Communion
ClashAndBurn Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Communion said: Though to touch on Trump's endless corruption, it really does speak to how liberalism eats itself alive by creating problems its mechanisms like capitalism can't actually defeat or solve when you have American conservatives using the bipartisan language crafted to slander and villainize America's "state enemies". The way you can just hear the way "third world" is meant as a slur off his lips: Ironically Trump would be the perfect lesson for why the state should always exercise authoritarian control of government, but Americans have too much exceptionalism and Marvel syndrome to see such. "Democracy is the only valid form of government!! Only thuggish dictators arrest their enemies!!" "...so you don't want Trump to go jail???" "No, no, no, of course. I'm talking about cigar-smoking Latin crooks who ban people from elections!" ".....so you're saying you think Trump should still have the right to run for president?!?" "Oh uhh no no! I just mean how foreign governments are bad and how we're mostly good - well, I mean except for Trump! I mean, him and his supporters literally tried to overthrow our government and undo our election!" "......exactly, how could anyone defend a foreign nation trying to overthrow a country's government just because it won't bend to the geopolitical and economic whims of a very powerful enemy. That's immoral." "Exactly!" What's intriguing of course is that Trump could have prosecuted Obama and Hillary for their numerous war crimes (Biden too for that matter) and I honestly wouldn't have batted an eye. Funny, isn't it? But, no, Trump had to continue Obama's policy of drone striking brown people at their weddings and hospitals, so there's that Pelosi could have impeached Bush 43 for Iraq, but the vast majority of her party was complicit and even encouraging because, well, they were bloodthirsty for Saddam Hussein who had nothing to do with 9/11. So there's that too! Thanks Mama Bear
Kassi Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 40 minutes ago, Communion said: Always a good time to talk about America being the only developed country in the world without universal healthcare. Most of us are not corporate executives with gold star insurance packages benefiting from blood money. Dems are talking about healthcare. In fact, going into the midterms they're able to highlight how the IRA is the biggest healthcare law since Obamacare and: Allows Medicare to negotiate drug prices Sets a $2k cap on annual drug costs for seniors Caps insulin at $35 for those on Medicare Makes all vaccines free for ppl on Medicare/Medicaid Lowers healthcare premiums with the extension of ACA subsidies Health, climate, and inflation were the primary targets of the IRA (and rather good targets, I might add). Meanwhile, Republicans are still losing on social issues and corruption. Best combo going into midterms. It's giving flashback to 2007.
ClashAndBurn Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 Also the implication of the "only third world dictators prosecute their political enemies" fallacy is, of course, that the Republican base wouldn't want to go after Democrats for their perceived crimes against the state. Which is, of course, laughable when you remember the hullabaloo around Benghazi and the private E-mail server. The distinction, of course, was that Republican officials that were actually in power had no intention of actually pursuing legal action against Hillary (which if they had actually gone after her for the right things, they easily could have! ). They just wanted to weaken her and damage her public image.
Communion Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: What's intriguing of course is that Trump could have prosecuted Obama and Hillary for their numerous war crimes (Biden too for that matter) and I honestly wouldn't have batted an eye. Funny, isn't it? But, no, Trump had to continue Obama's policy of drone striking brown people at their weddings and hospitals, so there's that Pelosi could have impeached Bush 43 for Iraq, but the vast majority of her party was complicit and even encouraging because, well, they were bloodthirsty for Saddam Hussein who had nothing to do with 9/11. So there's that too! Thanks Mama Bear Pelosi: "America is a beacon of democracy and we protect democracy in the world! We will take down our enemies!" Also Pelosi: *has had a weird stan obsession with some weird island off the coast of China that was a literal far-right military dictatorship for like 50 years, including 10 of her obsession with it* If Trump was just 5 shades of tan darker and you toss a copy of "Das Kapital" in his hands, Pelosi would be screaming "take his ass down, dead or alive".
Kassi Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 Republicans didn't go after Hillary because they didn't have the legal footing to follow through on their outrageous claims. I promise it's very simple: Republicans lie, alot. After Jan 6th, we don't have to pretend like anything they say has credibility. It should be illegal to be this naive about Republicans in 2022.
Communion Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Kassi said: Allows Medicare to negotiate drug prices .......drug prices for 10* random** drugs after 4 years*** that have no generic versions on the market**** "Liberalism!!!" Maybe you do actually have to be making six-figures and work some fancy corporate job to actually think this is impressive or materially impactful. Edited August 10, 2022 by Communion
Kassi Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 "Let's do nothing unless we can do everything" "Leftism!!!"
Kassi Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 Anyway, this is a good week for Democrats. Nothing the far-left says or does can change that fact (without embarrassing themselves like Bernie did this week).
ClashAndBurn Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Kassi said: Republicans didn't go after Hillary because they didn't have the legal footing to follow through on their outrageous claims. I promise it's very simple: Republicans lie, alot. After Jan 6th, we don't have to pretend like anything they say has credibility. It should be illegal to be this naive about Republicans in 2022. Again, they could have gone after her and Obama for their policy of droning brown civilians at their weddings and in their hospitals. The Republicans agree with that policy and are war criminal enjoyers themselves, so they did not! It's that simple! No one is being naive about Republicans in here sis! Just because you agree with the Republicans and don't think blowing up civilians with melanin on the other side of the world is a problem doesn't mean everyone shares that worldview.
Communion Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kassi said: "Let's do nothing unless we can do everything" (You can do everything sis - you just don't *want* to help poor people) "Our policies are good and not built to fail! We swear! We just have to lie about what they actually do!" "The biggest investment in climate policy ever that will bring us still 10% short of our emissions cut goal by 2030 that will also give away the entire Gulf of Mexico for new drilling permits killing huge ecosystemsI" Huh? Sis what? Speak up. "that will bring us still 10% short of our own emissions cut goal by 2030 that will also give away the entire Gulf of Mexico for new drilling permits killing huge ecosystems" *blinks* "Medicare will now negotiate drug prices to end corporate greed for 10 high-spend drugs at random in 4 years time that cannot have generic versions available to not impact the pricing of generics!" Sis, WHAT? SPEAK UP!!! "for 10 high-spend drugs at random in 4 years time that cannot have generic versions available to not impact the pricing of generics" *blinks* Odd how the Biden administration is allegedly trying to better the conditions of those on Medicare, while refusing to place restrictions on private insurance, as his administration also is secretly signing seniors on Medicare up for privatized Medicare Advantage plans without their consent. Odd how there's no language to ban Medicare Advantage plans from shifting the cost of the $35 co-pay cap on insulin via increased premiums.
GhostBox Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 29 minutes ago, Kassi said: Anyway, this is a good week for Democrats. ??
ClashAndBurn Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 So uh… I thought the KHive celebrating that her polling was close last week was them bluffing, cause I really couldn’t find any polling data on this race, but… this is pretty bad. The fact that this is even close portends badly for her 2024 prospects. Also feeling like AOC’s Iron Dome vote and temper tantrum is going to hurt her as well in a few weeks.
Kassi Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 Oh wow! Did she not run on M4A or something? Oomf told me it was an instant winner. Hmm. No comment. I wish the squad all the luck.
Communion Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: So uh… I thought the KHive celebrating that her polling was close last week was them bluffing, cause I really couldn’t find any polling data on this race, but… this is pretty bad. The fact that this is even close portends badly for her 2024 prospects. Also feeling like AOC’s Iron Dome vote and temper tantrum is going to hurt her as well in a few weeks. Sis, Wasserman is being a right-wing troll pretending this is some shocking upset. Omar had to have been okay with a tight race because it appears that she....... literally didn't do TV ads this year (which in itself removed from politics is reasonable to question given she easily out-raised her opponent ): This is basically an attempt by the mayor of Minneapolis to intimidate her because she didn't follow the party line at home. The way Wesserman's tweets get more and more sadder sounding as he realizes she's gonna still win. Edited August 10, 2022 by Communion
ClashAndBurn Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, Communion said: Sis, Wasserman is being a right-wing troll pretending this is some shocking upset. Omar had to have been okay with a tight race because it appears that she....... literally didn't do TV ads this year (which in itself removed from politics is reasonable to question given she easily out-raised her opponent ): This is basically an attempt by the mayor of Minneapolis to intimidate her because she didn't follow the party line at home. The way Wesserman's tweets get more and more sadder sounding as he realizes she's gonna still win. Ilhan’s race being close is bad, whether she welcomed it by not running tv ads or not. If Frey had been her challenger, he’d have beaten her. And in fact, he might decide to be the one to primary her in 2024 seeing how close this got and how impactful his endorsement ended up being. I also think that House Dems policy of endorsing incumbents indiscriminately will come to an end when Hakeem Jeffries replaces Pelosi. If Ilhan gets cut off from DCCC it will be a lot harder for her to survive. And I definitely see him endorsing her challenger and using her inevitably getting banned from committee assignments by Speaker McCarthy as the excuse.
ClashAndBurn Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 Glad the race has been called for Ilhan. The Israel First and Team Slava Ukraini folks are big mad about it though
Communion Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 39 minutes ago, Kassi said: Did she not run on M4A or something? The only thing she didn't run was tv ads (the strategy that helped AOC unseat Crowley) and yet somehow her conservative opponent (who got GOP pac money) still couldn't get rid of her even when found sleeping behind the wheel. But giving that most of the angry reactions I see to her winning have less to do with policy and overwhelmingly come from liberals and conservative calling her uhhh *wipes glasses* "dirty migrant brother-fucker" (), something tells m that those who want to unseat Ilhan Omar have reasons for their vitriol beyond politics.
rihannabiggestfan Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 The right-wing police simp lost, YAY and progressive Becca Balint won in Vermont ----- Those vids literally serving Oblivion NPC --- Very true --- Ukraine corrupt (especially crook Zelensky) -- Pelosi corrupt -- 3 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: All I’ll say, as a TLDR for what I replied with to Communion is this: either Hunter Biden should be treated like everyone else, or everyone else should be given the same amount of leniency that he’s been given in his life. The status quo is a caste system, where you get punished to the fullest extent of the law (plebs like us) or you have limitless impunity and can get away with whatever you want (Hunter Biden and Donald Trump). Not sustainable for our society. Same with how Brittney Griner should be treated like everyone else. Only Ukrainian assets are simping for her while conveniently ignoring all Americans who are in the same situation but IN AMERICA
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