ClashAndBurn Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Kassi said: 15 week abortion bans you say? Idk, let's ask ClashAndBurn. Seems to be right in their wheelhouse. I’ll say it again. A ban on less than 15-week bans would be better than what the current state of affairs is for Georgia, Ohio, and other states. If you don’t want to do anything about at least outlawing Heartbeat Bills, then that’s your prerogative as a moderate, status quo-loving Pelosi Democrat.
Communion Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kassi said: 15 week abortion bans you say? Idk, let's ask ClashAndBurn. Seems to be right in their wheelhouse. You to ClashAndBurn: *explains how ceding ground from 24 to 15 weeks would be ceding ground to Republicans* Also you: *denies that pressure from GOP leadership has impacted Murkowski and Collins despite that they've shifted from voting against bans prior to 20-24 weeks to now pushing legislation that enables their colleagues' 15-week bans, thus signifying they've been pushed to the right* Sis this is why you don't try arguing with more than one person at a time. You expose your grift. 30 posts later and still a refusal to simply be transparent about one's own income and background. Hmm! Edited July 18, 2022 by Communion
ClashAndBurn Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kassi said: ^There’s your answer @Communion You are constantly and extremely bad faith. I have explained to you that Republicans already have the high ground on the issue and Democrats don’t have a mathematically possible path to codifying anything more than a ban on <15 week bans. The court is lost for a generation or more because of Hillary Clinton being a loser and Democratic primary voters being utterly stupid enough to nominate that catastrophic failure. Reality is, you’re not doing a 24-week codification because Democrats don’t have the capability or the wherewithal to do so. And you know this, but you would rather posture and functionally do nothing so you can clap like a seal when Pelosi passes yet another worthless bill in her worthless House that Democrats are set in stone to lose an absolutely dreadful amount of seats in less than five months’ time.
Gavin. Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 the way this thread is just constant 3-4 members arguing with eachother thanks to those who post updates for my lazy ass
Kassi Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Communion said: You to ClashAndBurn: *explains how ceding ground from 24 to 15 weeks would be ceding ground to Republicans* Also you: *denies that pressure from GOP leadership has impacted Murkowski and Collins despite that they've shifted from voting against bans prior to 20-24 weeks to now pushing legislation that enables their colleagues' 15-week bans, thus signifying they've been pushed to the right* Sis this is why you don't try arguing with more than one person at a time. You expose your grift. 30 posts later and still a refusal to simply be transparent about one's own income and background. Hmm! Wym? Collins and Murkowski ARE Republicans. The fact that they have an abortion protection bill at all which uses viability, or ~24 weeks, as a framework (idk where you’re getting 15 weeks) signifies that they’re ceding ground to Democrats. But since they approach it from the other direction, their bill lacks the degree of protections outlined in the WHPA because their stated objective is to do the bare minimum in codifying Roe/Casey, without necessarily resolving the ambiguities inherent to the original ruling. So while it doesn’t make sense for Dems to take a position to the right of Collins/Murkowski with 15 weeks. It’s still the case that these two Republican Senators are broaching pro-choice policy without reprimand from their side of the aisle.
Communion Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Kassi said: bill at all which uses viability, or ~24 weeks, as a framework (idk where you’re getting 15 weeks) The Democratic leadership who called it out for the bad-faith bill it was. 33 minutes ago, Gavin. said: the way this thread is just constant 3-4 members arguing with eachother There's genuinely no room for anything productive as long as it's the same 2-3 Biden supporters deciding to spam and derail every time Biden's ineptitude hits us in the face. Biden has the lowest approval of any president in history at this point in his presidency, but one member in particular has instead spent pages discussing.... how many white people like Bernie Sanders over six years ago? At least one of the most adamant neolibs is gone forever.
rihannabiggestfan Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) Unless you're literally stuck in 2016, white voters are Bernie's weakest coalition (WARren impact, 71% ? LOL) White being WARren's best^ Edited July 18, 2022 by rihannabiggestfan
DAP Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) Hmm maybe I was wrong about Pelosi being inert. She can get work done for legislation—that bolsters her pockets that is. Edited July 18, 2022 by DAP
GraceRandolph Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, DAP said: Hmm maybe I was wrong about Pelosi being inert. She can get work done for legislation—that bolsters her pockets that is. But @Kassi said Pelosi went to the Vatican to get @Communion from the Pope so all is well.
Kassi Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 9 hours ago, Gavin. said: the way this thread is just constant 3-4 members arguing with eachother thanks to those who post updates for my lazy ass There's genuinely no room for anything productive as long as it's the same 2-3 Bernie supporters deciding to spam and derail every time I post one positive thing highlighting what Democrats are doing.
Kassi Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 8 hours ago, Communion said: The Democratic leadership who called it out for the bad-faith bill it was. Ok, well, it’s a 24 week abortion bill. Now you know. So this little quip... A Republican isn't a hardline anti-abortioner? Then the GOP makes that person such with constant ideological-commitment and pounding. ...is wrong! Moving on!
Communion Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 31 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: But @Kassi said Pelosi went to the Vatican to get @Communion from the Pope so all is well. Something something "anyone can buy the right stocks if they're smart enough! Queen is just using her smarts!" Openly corrupt. Openly deplorable.
ClashAndBurn Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 The reason why simply “electing more Democrats” isn’t the solution that Kassi thinks it is. ConservaDems that act like they would support a filibuster carve out are simply hiding behind Manchin. And if there’s ever a time where it looks like they might be expected to actually do something, they’ll show their true colors and say “I don’t actually think changing the rules would be appropriate. So we actually need 60 Democrats, but we won’t acknowledge that that’s mathematically impossible so we can always have that as an excuse.”
Kassi Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, DAP said: Hmm maybe I was wrong about Pelosi being inert. She can get work done for legislation—that bolsters her pockets that is. 1 hour ago, GraceRandolph said: But @Kassi said Pelosi went to the Vatican to get @Communion from the Pope so all is well. Why are you guys so taken and enamored by innuendo? This is the problem with American politics. Lack of focus on what’s important. The fact that you would scandalize and, given the chance, discard the most effective legislator in your corner and for what… online leftist credentials? Anyway, I have just three things on this: Please correct me if I’m wrong, but my assumption is that it’s BAD to have an entire semiconductor industry that the US economy is sorely reliant on be on a tiny island (Taiwan) which a major geopolitical competitor (China) considers to be their territory. This bill has been a key part of Biden’s agenda for reducing inflation from the start and has been floating in the news for over a year now (see: tweet). There’s nothing really “insider” about this trade. These are call options that were set to expire on the day of the trade, so literally the only ~options were to exercise or lose the investment. These were not fresh bought stocks. And, more important, NVIDIA doesn’t even manufacture chips. It’s boring, y’all. Very boring to keep going around in circles on these fluffy, character assassination attempts when the GOP quite literally attempted to physically assassinate the sitting VP and Speaker of the House. Like, who cares that Paul Pelosi is at home stroking his dick while gambling on his Fidelity Investment account?
Kassi Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 Also, 20,000 shares x $100 per share = $2M purchase, not $5M. This DUMBASS can't even do basic math. And "Non-Voting Felon", does he even know that Pelosi's House passed a sweeping voting rights protection bill that included restoring felons rights to vote? I love having debates with these type of idiots in person, where they can't lean on their online leftist brigade to come to their defense over their denial of facts.
Kassi Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 Anyway, let’s stop the drama, and start the music Not that this will have a bigger impact on the social discourse than abortion, but it should bring out the LGBT vote (minus the stuffy queens in this thread)
rihannabiggestfan Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 YIKES "I'm only gonna act urgently and take executive action when it benefits corporations!"
ClashAndBurn Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 Third Way Dems big mad over Mandela Barnes accepting a Bernie Sanders endorsement. Jennifer Rubin screeching in the replies
rihannabiggestfan Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 ugh, Third Way is TRASH. If I'm not mistaken, Mandela Barnes has always been great, so I'm not surprised that he would tweet such a reasonable tweet. ------- "One reason is that most swing districts are only swing districts because they have about the same number of Republican and Democratic voters — not because they are home to many undecided centrists. Put another way, swing districts are not inherently moderate." PROGRESSIVES BEEN KNEW. That's why it's smarter to nominate someone who supports popular policies (especially if said someone is also loved by Independents)
GhostBox Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Kassi said: Anyway, let’s stop the drama, and start the music Not that this will have a bigger impact on the social discourse than abortion, but it should bring out the LGBT vote (minus the stuffy queens in this thread) ??????
rihannabiggestfan Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) Biden having 62% disapproval in the latest CNN and Pew polls Morning Consult: "Biden Plumbs New Depths: Net Approval Rating Now Underwater in 44 States Trump was more popular than Biden at a similar point last midterm cycle" https://morningconsult.com/2022/07/18/biden-approval-rating-all-50-states/ double-digits positive net approval in a whopping zero states, I- ... his 1988 and 2008 presidential runs teas The fact that Delaware is a dark-blue state for which he's been a Senator for decades, yet he has a negative net approval there (and 43 other states) Edited July 18, 2022 by rihannabiggestfan
ClashAndBurn Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, rihannabiggestfan said: Trump was more popular than Biden at a similar point last midterm cycle Pretty sure he's lower than Trump ever got, actually. He'll be rivaling GWB for most unpopular presidency of all time soon enough. Think he's already there for one-term presidents so far.
rihannabiggestfan Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Pretty sure he's lower than Trump ever got, actually. He'll be rivaling GWB for most unpopular presidency of all time soon enough. Think he's already there for one-term presidents so far. Tea, so in order to prevent this from happening again, we need to run a Democrat like Mike "Stop and Frisk" Bloomberg (/s - basically the same reasoning as "Hillary is universally panned not because she is corrupt, dishonest, and out-of-touch but because she is too left")
Kassi Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 Some people are saying this is part of a coordinated effort by the right to dump Trump in favor of DeSantis. I hope they don’t think Republicans can win the Presidency without Trump’s celebrity driving the ticket. That one term really has them feeling themselves. DeSantis will NEVER activate the base like Trump does. DeSantis only polls well because Trump approves of him, which is, uh, not exactly a permanent state of affairs. The base liked Pence right up until Trump told them to murder him.
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