YR. Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 People that listen to the original albums after the TV is available don’t respect TAYLOR.
LiamVillain Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 i just noticed that the length of the sntv tracks doesn't match the original
Badgalbriel Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 I kind of have a feeling she will continue touring until the end of the re-recordings in 2025. 1
Badgalbriel Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Thorn said: Well, all is said and done for the Speak Now TV era. She has no more surprises because she doesn't want to overexpose herself (I guess). So, do we think she's releasing 1989 TV by the end of the year? Maybe it seems too close to Speak Now TV, but it could do wonders for Midnights Grammy campaign (like evermore did for folklore). Maybe she has other things in mind though, what do you guys think? Yes. It's definitely coming this year. She needs to release it this year so she can have next year off to generate hype for TS11
fridayteenage Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 i still remember when there were doomsday posts due to the evermore opening numbers. how far we've come. 1
cat1867 Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 25 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: I kind of have a feeling she will continue touring until the end of the re-recordings in 2025. I expect that she might add another week or two of London dates but she isn't going to extend her tour beyond that. Touring that long ruins people's bodies and relationships. She isn't going to make her band that's been with since she was 16 tour that long. Also tours that go on that long get stale and she has a movie to film. Also she is clearing recording another album. Her setlist is to long to fit another album without ruining the eras concept. She isn't going to release a new studio album that would be ignored on her current tour. I expect that she will release her next studio album in Q4 of 2024 and then have a more residency/ festival focused tour for it instead of trying to replicate the Eras tour.
Thorn Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, cat1867 said: I expect that she might add another week or two of London dates but she isn't going to extend her tour beyond that. Touring that long ruins people's bodies and relationships. She isn't going to make her band that's been with since she was 16 tour that long. Also tours that go on that long get stale and she has a movie to film. Also she is clearing recording another album. Her setlist is to long to fit another album without ruining the eras concept. She isn't going to release a new studio album that would be ignored on her current tour. I expect that she will release her next studio album in Q4 of 2024 and then have a more residency/ festival focused tour for it instead of trying to replicate the Eras tour. What you say is the most reasonable. Right now I think 1989 TV is coming this year and TS11 next year. But wouldn't it be weird to end the Eras Tour without having released all the re-recordings?
fridayteenage Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 i mean, you could say wouldn't it be weird to start the eras tour without having released all the re-recordings, since there's a bunch of performances that are lining the pockets of stolen versions' owners...
Klein Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Since we're on the topic, lemme share what I commented in another thread 1 hour ago, Klein said: I really would love to have TS11 as fast as possible because apart from Debut, I don't really care for the other two TV (outside the vault tracks). That said, I think The Eras Tour is just the perfect opportunity to release the remaining re-recordings. 1989 in late 2023 (between US/LATAM legs), Reputation early 2024 (between Asia/Oceania and European leg) and Debut at the end of the tour.
KOMH Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 53 minutes ago, Taylor Swift said: A Harry Styles remix is coming on 1989 TV I rebuke it in the name of (Dear) Jesus. The single most revolting artist alive. 1
Kyle-x Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 2 hours ago, ahauntingnearu said: Y'all do too damn much on "the rerecords being awful", esp the MM ones. In most cases in all three albums so far, the new versions are so close to original, you're just searching for (or even creating) the "problems". The only egregious thing so far is the "weeee" in WANEGBT; I truly don't know what she was thinking when she heard and approved that. Everything else is FINE I think some people engage with the TV albums in bad faith and go in extra hard purposefully looking for things to critique and dislike. Of course these albums that came out over a decade ago are going to sound different now coming from a woman in her 30s with different people producing them. But aside from Girl at Home they're not drastically different to the point where you could never ease yourself into enjoying them as much as the original after the initial shock of them not sounding like how you're used to has passed. If you want to keep listening to the original that's fine but the people that say "I didn't even finish listening to the album it's trash compared to the original" or "I listened to it once and NEVER AGAIN" are clearly not coming from a place of trying to enjoy these albums in the first place. I don't think it's a moral failing to prefer the originals or even still listen to them like some Swifties project but you don't earn extra brownie points for being a stan for so long that you went to Target the day it was released and played it on loop in your mom's Toyota so the re-recordings can't compare and need to be trashed in long rants every other day either. It's giving angry old people refusing to adapt to technology and screaming at customer service because they can't set-up their Face ID. 3 5
cat1867 Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, Thorn said: What you say is the most reasonable. Right now I think 1989 TV is coming this year and TS11 next year. But wouldn't it be weird to end the Eras Tour without having released all the re-recordings? Not really . She is clearly and correctly prioritizing new studio albums above TVs. She had such a long gap between Red Tv and Midnights and Speak Now TV to give Midnights time to establish itself . similarly, she isn’t going allow the re-recording to control her touring schedule and delay the release of her next studio album. Taylor isn’t ready to be a legacy artist whose past albums are prioritized over the current . If she wanted she could announce 1989 release date in two months for a November release . Then rep’s announcement in January for a March release . Then announce TS 11 at her last Eras show . Debut then came be released sometime after TS 11. I don’t think she will want to rush the tvs since I think she likes giving each time to establish themselves and prevent fan burnout. But if she does want to release basically all of them before the tour is over she has time .
Kyle-x Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Personally, I'd like 1989 to come out either late 2024 or early-mid 2025 since then it'd be at least 10 years old. So TS11 would ideally come out early-mid 2024 before it or late 2025 after it. Then rep would come out early-mid 2016 and finish the project with debut in mid-late 2026 since it'd be near its 20 year anniversary. Honestly, I'd even prefer rep to be pushed out to 2027 since then it'd be at least 10 years old too but the symbolic significance of finishing with debut makes way more sense. I know stretching the re-recordings out to late 2026 seems like a long time but remember this is 11 years of material condensed into a 5 year span.
Thorn Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) I wish I could know her calendar. I don't know if she really wants to finish this project so soon. The nostalgia for her old songs is doing wonders for her to be the most important artist of the moment. I don't see it as unreasonable that she wants to extend it. Edited July 8, 2023 by Thorn
Goaty Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 3 hours ago, ahauntingnearu said: Y'all do too damn much on "the rerecords being awful", esp the MM ones. In most cases in all three albums so far, the new versions are so close to original, you're just searching for (or even creating) the "problems". The only egregious thing so far is the "weeee" in WANEGBT; I truly don't know what she was thinking when she heard and approved that. Everything else is FINE I think the hard thing about MM tracks in general is that they're so polished that even one instrument out of place sounds bad. It's hard to recreate pop tracks with that much gloss without them feeling cheap. I don't know if this tendency is a reflection of his caliber of work or the nature of sugary pop music itself but overall I can't deny that most of the Max remakes sound terrible to me. 2 1
vale9001 Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Thorn said: I wish I could know her calendar. I don't know if she really wants to finish this project so soon. The nostalgia for her old songs is doing wonders for her to be the most important artist of the moment. I don't see it as unreasonable that she wants to extend it. I don't see another 3 album releases of tvs before a new album. For me only 1989 and then a new album Reputation Is not coming for now. I think 7 years are not enough to get the right nostalgia effect. I think her scheme (seeing how She made for the First half of It) could actually be like TV album TV album (After 7-8 months) New album (After 1 year) New TV (After 9 months) New TV (After 7-8 months) New album (After 1 year) New TV (After 9 months) New TV (After 7-8 months) Month less month more So 1989 spring 2024 New album 2025 Reputation and debut 2026 Even She's really making that movie as director She can release the TVs during the making of the movie. It's not like making a new album of course.
vale9001 Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) No, producing blank space Is really complicated . There are a lot of digital and electronic effects (while her early music is more strumental) and the music Is really really full of things, It's not Just a drum and a Guitar. If people pays millions that man there Is a reason, no One can recreate that easily. Someone can't like the max Martin pop factory exactly cause is the kinda of pop music detractors call "overproduced". It's really really hard to exactly recreate some of the songs in the exact way, maybe even for max Martin himself. Christopher rowe wouldn't know where to start to make it poor soul Dessner once said 'i really appreciate pop Songs line blank space cause i wouldn't know how to produce this kind of songs". Shellback is a Martin allievo but red songs were definitely not good. Only 22 was ok. Edited July 8, 2023 by vale9001 2
Attaboy Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Does anyone have the gif of Tay’s hair getting lit up by static electricity? Wont be used for malicious/shady intent promise 🙏🏼
IBeMe Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 imagine at the last date of the Eras Tour she announces The Eras Album which is an album of original music and it's sonically eclectic. A Red-esque experience but with a modern swing to it (though I want another sonically cohesive alt-rock influenced record next tbh).
Buffy Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, vale9001 said: No, producing blank space Is really complicated . There are a lot of digital and electronic effects (while her early music is more strumental) and the music Is really really full of things, It's not Just a drum and a Guitar. If people pays millions that man there Is a reason, no One can recreate that easily. Someone can't like the max Martin pop factory exactly cause is the kinda of pop music detractors call "overproduced". It's really really hard to exactly recreate some of the songs in the exact way, maybe even for max Martin himself. Christopher rowe wouldn't know where to start to make it poor soul Dessner once said 'i really appreciate pop Songs line blank space cause i wouldn't know how to produce this kind of songs". Shellback is a Martin allievo but red songs were definitely not good. Only 22 was ok. I want to the know the real reason why Max Martin/Taylor aren’t willing to work with each other. If it’s money, Taylor has the funds. Blank Space and SIO are some of her biggest songs. The value of the OG is going to depreciate overtime. Wouldn’t Max want to be involved on the TV for that reason alone? Edited July 8, 2023 by Buffy
Taylor fanboy Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 UGH the way THEE PUTA continues to GATHER the ACCLAIM and RESPECT! 1
Bloodflowers. Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Listening to Red for the first time and.......... And I just wanna tell you It takes everything in me not to call you And I wish I could run to you And I hope you know that every time I don't I almost do I almost do KatyPerryCrying.gif
ahauntingnearu Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Kyle-x said: I think some people engage with the TV albums in bad faith and go in extra hard purposefully looking for things to critique and dislike. Of course these albums that came out over a decade ago are going to sound different now coming from a woman in her 30s with different people producing them. But aside from Girl at Home they're not drastically different to the point where you could never ease yourself into enjoying them as much as the original after the initial shock of them not sounding like how you're used to has passed. If you want to keep listening to the original that's fine but the people that say "I didn't even finish listening to the album it's trash compared to the original" or "I listened to it once and NEVER AGAIN" are clearly not coming from a place of trying to enjoy these albums in the first place. I don't think it's a moral failing to prefer the originals or even still listen to them like some Swifties project but you don't earn extra brownie points for being a stan for so long that you went to Target the day it was released and played it on loop in your mom's Toyota so the re-recordings can't compare and need to be trashed in long rants every other day either. It's giving angry old people refusing to adapt to technology and screaming at customer service because they can't set-up their Face ID. Totally agree
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