Topaz Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 I think to add on, Normani just needs consistency to cement herself bc the fans are there. Lauren is doing fine and her tour when I went was sold out and her fans were hardcore and she gets decent streams. I still hear Ally's music all over malls, radios, and cafe's so shes collecting some coil. Dinah is the only one for me where I haven't heard a song on radio/public yet. I do love her duet with Ally though, heard the cover at H&M recently.
Mstreep Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 19 hours ago, Arianna Kylie said: i was absolutely gonna say while camila might have a #1 album and single.. it’s never gonna happen again and she’s never really cemented anything else. esp when we’re in a day and age where it’s clear as day camila was shoved down our throats, more people are aware and not interested. and normani has proven to be the better artist it’s just a matter of showing so consistently. i definitely think something finnicky in those contracts has prevented those girls from releasing music. neither four have an EP or a real body of music and each have had more than enough time to. Camila last single was Bam Bam and it now sits at over 800 million on Spotify and schedule to hit a billion next year. And it was nominated for a Grammy. Her monthly Spotify numbers compared to the other 4 are not even close. And mind you one of her biggest songs on Spotify in 2023 was from her second album Shameless. All these conspiracy theories about 5h contracts are false and just excuses why the other girls aren’t performing well. Ally has been dropped but multiple labels after recording albums she herself said were done. Dinah was at LAReids label and was dropped when her singles didn’t take off. Lauren was signed to Columbia and her singles didn’t do well and they parted ways. Normani was with keep cool and then now at rca. There’s nothing holding these girls back from releasing albums other than labels not wanting to invest in albums after singles don’t do well ….that’s it. There is no grand scheme it’s all about money. 1
justifymythreads Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Mstreep said: Camila last single was Bam Bam and it now sits at over 800 million on Spotify and schedule to hit a billion next year. And it was nominated for a Grammy. Her monthly Spotify numbers compared to the other 4 are not even close. And mind you one of her biggest songs on Spotify in 2023 was from her second album Shameless. All these conspiracy theories about 5h contracts are false and just excuses why the other girls aren’t performing well. Ally has been dropped but multiple labels after recording albums she herself said were done. Dinah was at LAReids label and was dropped when her singles didn’t take off. Lauren was signed to Columbia and her singles didn’t do well and they parted ways. Normani was with keep cool and then now at rca. There’s nothing holding these girls back from releasing albums other than labels not wanting to invest in albums after singles don’t do well ….that’s it. There is no grand scheme it’s all about money. I’m sorry but when did I say that she didn’t sale at all. What I said is that she needs a gimmick. Her music is hit or miss. She had hella singles on her second and third album where most of them flopped. Her saving grace for her second album was Senorita which was tacked on the last minute to help with sales. Her third album did worse but her breakup with Shawn came at the right time and boosted the sales for Bam Bam. Let’s not forget the “nipslip” controversy that came from left field when she was promoting her album. Let’s face it she’s needs controversy and publicity to sell her music. If she was as popular as you said she would be streaming and charting consistently. I also agree with your point about them dropping the other girls but I don’t think That necessarily is the only reason. From what the girls have said their labels wanted them to do strictly pop and they’ve gotten a lot of push back. I think Ally got dropped because her singles didn’t do too well but I think Lauren left and Sinah left her label on their own. Normani has had issues with her parent’s health amongst other things. To me she is the last consistent member but still is always mentioned and has enough hype to make a comeback if she wanted.
yesmine Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, justifymythreads said: I’m sorry but when did I say that she didn’t sale at all. What I said is that she needs a gimmick. Her music is hit or miss. She had hella singles on her second and third album where most of them flopped. Her saving grace for her second album was Senorita which was tacked on the last minute to help with sales. Her third album did worse but her breakup with Shawn came at the right time and boosted the sales for Bam Bam. Let’s not forget the “nipslip” controversy that came from left field when she was promoting her album. Let’s face it she’s needs controversy and publicity to sell her music. If she was as popular as you said she would be streaming and charting consistently. I also agree with your point about them dropping the other girls but I don’t think That necessarily is the only reason. From what the girls have said their labels wanted them to do strictly pop and they’ve gotten a lot of push back. I think Ally got dropped because her singles didn’t do too well but I think Lauren left and Sinah left her label on their own. Normani has had issues with her parent’s health amongst other things. To me she is the last consistent member but still is always mentioned and has enough hype to make a comeback if she wanted. 1. She had only 2 singles from her third album, one was top 20 and the other has has 500M streams on Spotify and 130M on YouTube. 2. How dare you use such a vulnerable, embarrassing and uncomfortable moment for her concerning her body as an argument on sales?
wildsidenormani Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 not the camilla stans infiltrating this thread 5 1
AFullMoonlight Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 Alright lets clear the room. We do not need this energy going into the new year. 7
remming Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 I went ahead and created this thread for anyone who wants to keep talking about 5H and that way the solo threads kind of stay free from arguments. 1
Arianna Kylie Posted December 13, 2023 Posted December 13, 2023 6 hours ago, wildsidenormani said: not the camilla stans infiltrating this thread there’s nothing camila is doing so they’re picking on normani lol. camila is literally in nobody’s anticipation list. at all. 1
Mstreep Posted December 13, 2023 Posted December 13, 2023 9 hours ago, Arianna Kylie said: there’s nothing camila is doing so they’re picking on normani lol. camila is literally in nobody’s anticipation list. at all. This is the issue right here …anticipation?? …this is why Normani and her label keep fumbling. They are playing into the hype of twitter and social media that means absolutely NOTHING. Even artist that have hit songs are finding it difficult to sell albums. This has not helped her buying into it….she could have just released ….toured and been on her 2nd or third album and she would have been in a stronger position. Just release and move on don’t make it more complicated than it needs to be
Arianna Kylie Posted December 13, 2023 Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Mstreep said: This is the issue right here …anticipation?? …this is why Normani and her label keep fumbling. They are playing into the hype of twitter and social media that means absolutely NOTHING. Even artist that have hit songs are finding it difficult to sell albums. This has not helped her buying into it….she could have just released ….toured and been on her 2nd or third album and she would have been in a stronger position. Just release and move on don’t make it more complicated than it needs to be lmao you’re not a fan and it’s clear. “they are playing into the hype of twitter and social media that means absolutely NOTHING” already tells me who you are. if you don’t like normani why do y’all bombard the threads? it’s been years and normani has been fine and can pick up right where she’s left off. we’re all STILL talking about her lol. camila’s last album tanked, “wild side” did better than any single on there. don’t worry about normani lol. Edited December 13, 2023 by Arianna Kylie 1
justifymythreads Posted December 13, 2023 Posted December 13, 2023 16 hours ago, yesmine said: 1. She had only 2 singles from her third album, one was top 20 and the other has has 500M streams on Spotify and 130M on YouTube. 2. How dare you use such a vulnerable, embarrassing and uncomfortable moment for her concerning her body as an argument on sales? 1. Umm, she most definitely had more than 2 singles I mean she had DGY, BB, Psychofreak, and Hastos Los Dientes. Which all but BB didn’t do good. I think her album barely even reached top 10. Also, going back to the Grammy noms. From what I’ve heard she barely got through because they deemed Save Your Tears Remix ineligible. 2. I’m sorry but I’m not making fun and trying make light someone unknowingly exposing themselves. However, I will say this. When she was doing press for this last album I never saw any clips or interest in any of the interviews. Not until this “nipslip” which happened a little bit after Bam Bam released. I just think for someone who didn’t like to be viewed as an object and acted all high and mighty as if the girls had a say in their image. To see her go from the sweet innocent girl to having a clear oversized blouse on with nothing underneath; is somewhat interesting.
justifymythreads Posted December 13, 2023 Posted December 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, Mstreep said: This is the issue right here …anticipation?? …this is why Normani and her label keep fumbling. They are playing into the hype of twitter and social media that means absolutely NOTHING. Even artist that have hit songs are finding it difficult to sell albums. This has not helped her buying into it….she could have just released ….toured and been on her 2nd or third album and she would have been in a stronger position. Just release and move on don’t make it more complicated than it needs to be I’m sorry but wasn’t that what Epic did with Camila’s last album. They literally cut her budget in half and pushed her to make the literal same music that she made her last 2 albums. In hopes that they can make a return on her from all that payola from the 2nd album that went down the drain. Which led to her sound showing no growth or maturity. I literally used to see you Camilla fans on twitter complaining how Epic was doing nothing to promote. Whilst she had radio deal for both DGY and BB. Also, she performed at hella talk shows and events. I never heard anything about the album or her until late this year when she was spotted with Shawn. And before then the “nipslip”. Everybody from Ariana, Dua, and even Doja stand were talking about how she fell off. I think when she comes back she can enjoy some shine but for now she isn’t in the forefront of anyone’s minds.
Mstreep Posted December 13, 2023 Posted December 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, Arianna Kylie said: lmao you’re not a fan and it’s clear. “they are playing into the hype of twitter and social media that means absolutely NOTHING” already tells me who you are. if you don’t like normani why do y’all bombard the threads? it’s been years and normani has been fine and can pick up right where she’s left off. we’re all STILL talking about her lol. camila’s last album tanked, “wild side” did better than any single on there. don’t worry about normani lol. I hate comparing cause these girls cause they are at different points in their careers but wild side is around 200 million on Spotify and bam bam is over 800 million and wild side was released before bam bam and was nominated for Grammy. But comparing Normani to other people is pointless and doesn’t help her. And I think that’s been the problem with fans and in part her old manger (who thought it was a competition) that’s made the focus on all the wrong things. Just do music that represents you and release it …people will connect or won’t but don’t let that stop you.
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted December 13, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted December 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Mstreep said: This is the issue right here …anticipation?? …this is why Normani and her label keep fumbling. They are playing into the hype of twitter and social media that means absolutely NOTHING. Even artist that have hit songs are finding it difficult to sell albums. This has not helped her buying into it….she could have just released ….toured and been on her 2nd or third album and she would have been in a stronger position. Just release and move on don’t make it more complicated than it needs to be Yeah I don't understand how people can't see this. She was expecting to have a breakout smash era with Motivation/Wild Side and that's just not how it works anymore. A whole generation of new stars have debuted since she started teasing her first album... she should easily be 3-4 albums in by now. Regardless of any personal/professional problems that we do or don't know about, it's just unacceptable.
popularmoonlight Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 11:10 PM, orange22 said: I’ve said too much already Why would you leave me out like this
justifymythreads Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 Now where are @Mstreep and @yesmine. Now what did I say about Ms.Cabello. If she isn’t throwing 5h under the bus she’s always in some dating scandal/drama. Just like her friend Taylor but Taylor knows how to put music at the forefront.
Psyduck Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 Can someone provide a list of leaked songs? It's clear this mythic album is never coming so I may as well download them while there's still floating out there
Garbaj Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 Just got news, that the album is being sent in for vinyls. Looks like QUEEN got her PHYSICALS approved!!!!
popularmoonlight Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Garbaj said: Just got news, that the album is being sent in for vinyls. Looks like QUEEN got her PHYSICALS approved!!!! Huh!? Can you please develop? DM if necessary
popularmoonlight Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 I completely zoned out from Normani and now I know exactly nothing! Can my sisters UPDATE ME
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