kellysclarkson Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 3 hours ago, BravoTangoWhiskey said: Red flag collector artwork looks great (courtesy of Censor on Pulse) Hide contents I hate love is quite wordy, but it's soo Kelly, her writing and voice is all over it, it's great
Cupid Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 41 minutes ago, BravoTangoWhiskey said: I asked about Don't before and she ignored it Hide contents but she answered 3 of my stuff She was mesmerised by the insta clearly
PieceByPiece_KC Posted June 2, 2023 Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) Kelly praising her unreleased masterpiece Lost one of her best songs Edited June 3, 2023 by PieceByPiece_KC
Heartbeat Song Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 Kelly is trending on the entertainment section. Finally some buzz haha 2
kelli101 Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 7 hours ago, kylegfil_ said: I just skimmed through the IHL thread and I've gotta say I'm amazed by how small-minded some people are when it comes to people releasing new music. If you want someone to release more of the same of what they've already done, that's your thing, but it's pretty boring to be expecting 41 year old KC to be repeating songs she released 20 years ago. Every single thing she's released so far this era (minus me, I'd say) has ventured into new territory for her sonically AND has been self or co-self penned. This is KC the ARTIST. I know not everyone vibes with every song but I'm kinda grossed out by people hoping for rehashes of what we have already gotten in the past. Also, by the sounds of it, the real hard-hitters on this album are Rock Hudson, Lighthouse, and Down To You, which we HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD YET. To quote Alexa from FJ2K - can we all just unclench a bit? Mmm… interesting take. I’d say Mine is a stand out sonically, as it’s something she’s never done before. Everything else is a rehash of she of her older stuff in her career like every other song reminds me of something she would have done on certain albums. You should be more grossed out by the fact that it sounds too similar to her previous material. Not saying it’s a bad thing. I love I hate love and mine. FKOH is some generic stronger/pxp reject. I’ve come to like it though …. Me is Mol track with weaker production. Again I like it though… 1 2
PieceByPiece_KC Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 5 hours ago, jpsketch said: I hope there’s a deluxe. There’s a song called roses that deserves to get released. I believe there's also a song called don't blame me
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 3, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted June 3, 2023 2 hours ago, kelli101 said: Everything else is a rehash of she of her older stuff in her career like every other song reminds me of something she would have done on certain albums. You should be more grossed out by the fact that it sounds too similar to her previous material. I agree. Lyrically, Mine and Me just feel like diluted, generic breakup songs. “I don’t need somebody to hold me; I don’t need somebody to love me,” is such a generic breakup theme and it falls flat compared to countless breakup songs she’s had throughout her career (Let Me Down, You Love Me, Behind These Hazel Eyes, Never Again, etc.). I was expecting more emotional vulnerability from this album and she hasn’t really delivered on that end. I understand it’s a trade off between being vulnerable and respecting the need of privacy for her children’s sake. But, some of Kelly’s most vulnerable and devastating lyrics are… still vague as hell. All of Sober, her magnum opus, is very open to interpretation and undescriptive in terms of painting a specific image or describing the exact circumstances that was its inspiration. But the lyrics are so emotionally rich that you fall into the lyrics and its production. While I really like IHL, I don’t feel that for any song on chemistry thus far. I felt that way about Merry Christmas To The One I Used To Know. That’s one of her best songs of all time, IMO. It’s about her divorce and it’s just so emotionally rich. So, I don’t think it’s fair to say, “You just want rehashes of SUBG.” No, SUBG is a great song but it’s an impersonal pop banger. I don’t want that. I want vulnerability similar to songs she put out on WCCA, just not as a Christmas song. 1
Nerevanin Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 58 minutes ago, Bloo said: Lyrically, Mine and Me just feel like diluted, generic breakup songs. “I don’t need somebody to hold me; I don’t need somebody to love me,” is such a generic breakup theme I think that Me is like two sides of a coin, lyrically. As you said, the chorus is generic af, the only thing that makes it interesting (lyrically) are the references to older songs (PBP and Maybe), although it's ofc a question if it ain't us fans reading too much into the lyrics. Anyway, on the other hand, some parts of the songs (second half of second verse and the changed final chorus) seem very specific. As for emotions, I feel like Mine, Me and IHL have more emotions than anything that put out since, idk, MD (minus some songs here and there) 1
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 3, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nerevanin said: As for emotions, I feel like Mine, Me and IHL have more emotions than anything that put out since, idk, MD (minus some songs here and there) I disagree. To each their own, of course. But I personally think countless songs evoke more emotion. Piece By Piece, Tightrope, Winter Dreams, Merry Christmas (TTOIUTK), Blessed, Someone, Save You, Already Gone, You Love Me, etc. all just feel so much more rich emotionally to me than anything from chemistry thus far.
wren Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Bloo said: I disagree. To each their own, of course. But I personally think countless songs evoke more emotion. Piece By Piece, Tightrope, Winter Dreams, Merry Christmas (TTOIUTK), Blessed, Someone, Save You, Already Gone, You Love Me, etc. all just feel so much more rich emotionally to me than anything from chemistry thus far. hmm based on this I feel Skip this Part (has a lot of emotion, there's a reason Kelly had to re-start this song like 3 times I think live at the belasco) , Rock Hudson (a breakaway album type mix with pxp) & lighthouse (tightrope vibes) may be your favorites, I'm perched to know haha! 1
BravoTangoWhiskey Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 Fully obsessed with this song, 100% should’ve been on the initial double a release 2
stoopidjenna Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 I Hate Love is kind of tying the album together for me. Mine, Me, and FKOH really did sound like they could have been on separate albums, IHL bridges that gap (although Me is still a bit of an outlier).
Heartbeat Song Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 The benefit of the weekly releases has been that there seems to be something for everyone 2
DEGUOM Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Heartbeat Song said: The benefit of the weekly releases has been that there seems to be something for everyone Plus it keeps her (and the album) under the new music lists on streamers
RealityBites Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, kylegfil_ said: Do we have numbers from yesterday? Usually not till like 11am mountain time
xDiamondx Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 I Hate Love is a delight but I'd still place it dead last tbh
PieceByPiece_KC Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 I really love mine, fkoh, &ihl but I really don’t like me
PieceByPiece_KC Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 If mine wasn’t released as a single, it would have gone down as one of the best Kelly album tracks ever. it’s a great song and makes me feel sad that it’s been watered down by people not thinking it sounds like a lead single. I think it’s the perfect indication of what the album represents. 3
BravoTangoWhiskey Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, kylegfil_ said: Do we have numbers from yesterday? About 200k, sorry been at a festival so didn’t update :( 206k I think to be precise, so around what was predicted based on partial day numbers, and unfortunately it doesn’t seem to have benefitted much from the other thing I predicted haha guetta remix of FKOH outstreamed the album version yesterday. Very curious where it’s picking up most of its streams Edited June 4, 2023 by BravoTangoWhiskey
kylegfil_ Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 3 hours ago, BravoTangoWhiskey said: About 200k, sorry been at a festival so didn’t update :( 206k I think to be precise, so around what was predicted based on partial day numbers, and unfortunately it doesn’t seem to have benefitted much from the other thing I predicted haha guetta remix of FKOH outstreamed the album version yesterday. Very curious where it’s picking up most of its streams Oh don’t apologize you’re fine! Was just curious my. I feel like 200K for her fourth promo single isn’t that bad.
jpsketch Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) Guetta remix is so lifeless, I bet that’s why it’s connecting with listeners. I wouldn’t be surprised if it charts eventually. Edited June 4, 2023 by jpsketch
xDiamondx Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 It's probably the one remix that didn't add anything to it. Strange since a lot of her previous singles had some pretty good remixes.
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