cuteboyzay Posted January 3 Posted January 3 24 minutes ago, satellites.™ said: Yep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_(Madonna_album) Like THISSSS is what I'm talking about. If there's one thing I love about Madonna, she was never scared to be "too big". Girl ate it AALLL up and wasn't scared for everybody to witness it.
Burn Posted January 3 Posted January 3 The 'Controversy' section on Formation's wiki page is wild. Quote "Formation", its music video, and the performance at the Super Bowl received criticism from conservative figures, law enforcement organizations and social media users over perceived anti-police, anti-American and racist messages. Former Mayor of New York City Rudy Giuliani called the performance "outrageous", adding: "I don't know what the heck it was. A bunch of people bouncing around and all strange things. It was terrible." Congressman Peter King condemned the "Formation" video, saying that "no one should really care what she thinks about any serious issue confronting our nation". Canadian politician Jim Karygiannis said that the Canadian government should investigate Beyoncé and consider banning her from the country. Conservative commentator Rush Limbaugh said that the song was "representative of the cultural decay and social rot that is befalling our country". Conservative TV host Tomi Lahren directed a rant towards Beyoncé, accusing her of "ramrodding an aggressive agenda down our throats" and concluding: "Your husband was a drug dealer. For fourteen years, he sold crack cocaine. Talk about protecting black neighborhoods? Start at home". Beyoncé requested to use thirty seconds of Lahren's rant for the Formation World Tour, but Lahren denied the request. An anti-Beyoncé campaign was started on social media titled #BoycottBeyoncé, which was met with a competing #IStandWithBeyoncé hashtag. As part of the campaign, an anti-Beyoncé protest was held on February 16, 2016, outside the National Football League headquarters, citing the "hate speech & racism" in Beyoncé's performance, which encouraged a counter-protest to be organized. In order to stoke unrest as part of the Russian interference in the 2016 US elections, the Kremlin-backed Internet Research Agency placed adverts on Instagram urging people to attend the protests. Only three anti-Beyoncé protesters attended, while a larger counter-protest gathered, holding signs expressing statements such as "Pro-black doesn't mean anti-white". The National Sheriffs' Association linked Beyoncé's performance to the killings of seven law enforcement officers in the US. Rutherford County Sheriff Robert Arnold blamed shots being fired outside his home on the "Formation" video. Police unions across the US encouraged a boycott of the Formation World Tour. Outside Beyoncé's concert at NRG Stadium on May 7, 2016, the Coalition of Police and Sheriffs held a demonstration over the Black Lives Matter themes in "Formation". The protesters wore "Police Lives Matter" T-shirts, held a printout of Jay Z's mugshot, and shone a blue light toward the stadium. President of the Tampa Police Benevolent Association Vinny Gericitano urged a boycott of Beyoncé's music and tour, however ensured that her concert in Tampa would be properly policed. Other law enforcement organizations did not join the boycott, such as those in Houston and Raleigh, the latter of which voted unanimously not to boycott the tour. Other public figures defended Beyoncé. Writer Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie told Le Monde that she "very much admires" what Beyoncé did with "Formation". Adichie said that there is something in mainstream American culture "that says you cannot be too black", and questioned why people would feel uncomfortable with the song's message and not be outraged over police brutality. The controversy was discussed on Real Time with Bill Maher, where Maher mocked the right-wing response to "Formation". Rapper and activist Killer Mike explained how the song is not about white people, while comedian Margaret Cho added: "Black pride doesn't have to take anything away from white culture. I think this is what Black America needed. It's what all of us needed." Minister Louis Farrakhan backed the singer during a sermon and offered her the protection of the Nation of Islam. Singer-songwriter Ne-Yo questioned why Beyoncé was being criticized for singing about her identity, stating: "Everybody else has the right to talk about their culture and their race and be proud of it, so why can't we? Why can't she?" On The Daily Show, Jessica Williams defended Beyoncé and responded to commentators who said her performance was not "wholesome" enough, saying she did not realize singing about race was the equivalent to Janet Jackson's Super Bowl controversy. Beyoncé responded to the backlash, telling Elle: "I'm an artist and I think the most powerful art is usually misunderstood." She expressed respect and admiration for police officers and explained that the message of "Formation" was not anti-police but against police brutality and injustice. Beyoncé added: "If celebrating my roots and culture during Black History Month made anyone uncomfortable, those feelings were there long before a video and long before me. I'm proud of what we created and I'm proud to be part of a conversation that is pushing things forward in a positive way." Beyoncé later sold "Boycott Beyoncé" merchandise at the Formation World Tour, acting as a tongue-in-cheek reference to the controversy. The Atlantic's Spencer Kornhaber wrote that this was also a statement that Beyoncé was unwavering in her beliefs, which directly acknowledges "the people she's alienated and telling them she doesn't want them to come back". That song really had people bothered. Legendary + the effects of this release is still felt today. 4
BnPac Posted January 3 Posted January 3 5 minutes ago, Burn said: order to stoke unrest as part of the Russian interference in the 2016 US elections, the Kremlin-backed Internet Research Agency placed adverts on Instagram urging people to attend the protests. Only three anti-Beyoncé protesters attended, 1 1
Fleahive Posted January 3 Posted January 3 We lost Justin Bieber. I guess him and his lil wife are still mad about that billboard list. Spoiler If Beyoncé sang like that on video she would not be praised. More double standards as usual. 3
Kristie Kuwa Posted January 3 Posted January 3 40 minutes ago, cuteboyzay said: Like THISSSS is what I'm talking about. If there's one thing I love about Madonna, she was never scared to be "too big". Girl ate it AALLL up and wasn't scared for everybody to witness it. Bey is not afraid for herself - its clear she wants to protect her children. Yall need to understand shes a mother first - and has been since 2
Joaco95 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 hour ago, satellites.™ said: Yep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_(Madonna_album) there isnt anything country on this damn album 1
Draper. Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Look at that horse Spoiler Look at that horse Spoiler Look at that horse Spoiler ???? Pretty as hell Spoiler Au naturale Spoiler Dining on farce Spoiler ???? 3 4
Punch Posted January 3 Posted January 3 8 minutes ago, Draper. said: Look at that horse Hide contents Look at that horse Hide contents Look at that horse Hide contents ???? Pretty as hell Hide contents Au naturale Hide contents Dining on farce Hide contents ???? NURSE !!!! 3
Kristie Kuwa Posted January 3 Posted January 3 It just hit me all over again that Bey lost AOTY with Renaissance against Harry motherfucking Styles out of ALL people 1 1
ShouldersSideways Posted January 3 Posted January 3 53 minutes ago, Fleahive said: We lost Justin Bieber. I guess him and his lil wife are still mad about that billboard list. Reveal hidden contents If Beyoncé sang like that on video she would not be praised. More double standards as usual. Do you see enemies in every shadow? 13 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: It just hit me all over again that Bey lost AOTY with Renaissance against Harry motherfucking Styles out of ALL people That's truly when I stopped caring. 3
QueenB Posted January 3 Posted January 3 29 minutes ago, Joaco95 said: there isnt anything country on this damn album 1 1
QueenB Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 hour ago, nuclear said: Fight me IDC Formation World Tour is still her best Tour ever . That is the reason she never releases it on streaming or DVD. She was gagged and scared better dancers/choreography (by miles.. I know she was injured but some of the choreography for the new songs were just old moves re-used) better set list better stage (no shade to RWT but she only goes around the catwalk stage once... kind of a waste of space and those on stage risers were a scam) you spilled here I fear! 1
Red Velvet Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 hour ago, Burn said: The 'Controversy' section on Formation's wiki page is wild. That song really had people bothered. Legendary + the effects of this release is still felt today. This reminds me of the "release plan" The rollout of the song was such a bad move because she didn't have the success to drown out all the hate. No itunes, UNLISTED video on youtube, no streaming etc. All for Tidal (that doesn't even exist anymore)
QueenB Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Just now, Red Velvet said: This reminds me of the "release plan" The rollout of the song was such a bad move because she didn't have the success to drown out all the hate. No itunes, UNLISTED video on youtube, no streaming etc. All for Tidal (that doesn't even exist anymore) she was actively self-sabotaging herself from success... it was very weird
king_queen Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Renaissance and ST were 100% stolen. There is no way to even argue against it. Lemonade definitely deserved too but anybody could see why 25 won The worst is still Homecoming losing against musty ass James Corden If CC and/or act iii don't win AOTY I can see her never going to anything again until she's inducted in the R&R HOF and Kennedy Honors
Red Velvet Posted January 3 Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, QueenB said: she was actively self-sabotaging herself from success... it was very weird I'm still so confused by it. Did she believe in Tidal that much? Formation and Lemonade by extension never really recovered or reached the potential it could have had. 2
QueenB Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Just now, Red Velvet said: I'm still so confused by it. Did she believe in Tidal that much? Formation and Lemonade by extension never really recovered or reached the potential it could have had. but unlisting the youtube video made 0 sense... do you want people to experience the art or not? Put "Streaming Exclusively on Tidal" and at least that would promote the platform? 1
king_queen Posted January 3 Posted January 3 5 minutes ago, Red Velvet said: This reminds me of the "release plan" The rollout of the song was such a bad move because she didn't have the success to drown out all the hate. No itunes, UNLISTED video on youtube, no streaming etc. All for Tidal (that doesn't even exist anymore) I understood no iTunes and to a certain extent the Tidal exclusive but the video being unlisted is the dumbest decision she made for that era. Formation should be at 2 billion on YT
Iaintsorry Posted January 3 Posted January 3 3 hours ago, ABeyBraith said: I'm not convinced this isn't a tour announcement. I feel like a lot of you are setting yourselves up for disappointment (not that a tour is disappointing but it's not the instant gratification of immediate Beyoncé content) Either that or residency in Vegas. I really don't think they would manage to get Beyoncé into talks about a residency and just drop it like that just because she couldn't rehearse with the sphere. If anything the conversation was kept going and possibly another venue snatched it up
Fleahive Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Kelly saw the meme I'm CRYING She had to send this to Beyonce right? Omg
PrettyHurts Posted January 3 Posted January 3 6 minutes ago, Iaintsorry said: Either that or residency in Vegas. I really don't think they would manage to get Beyoncé into talks about a residency and just drop it like that just because she couldn't rehearse with the sphere. If anything the conversation was kept going and possibly another venue snatched it up It was reported that she began talks wth MGM grand after the Sphere fell through. But I am hoping the Sphere came around because that would be epic
Iaintsorry Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 hour ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Bey is not afraid for herself - its clear she wants to protect her children. Yall need to understand shes a mother first - and has been since If this was the case she wouldn't show her kids in things like Renaissance film or BIK bts or let Blue perform on stage alongside her. She just has a less is more approach and that's what she's loved by since 2013
Joaco95 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 22 minutes ago, Red Velvet said: This reminds me of the "release plan" The rollout of the song was such a bad move because she didn't have the success to drown out all the hate. No itunes, UNLISTED video on youtube, no streaming etc. All for Tidal (that doesn't even exist anymore) the song was FREE on tidal too like
Kalmanta Posted January 3 Posted January 3 (edited) Really good and somewhat reasonable conversation. Edited January 3 by Kalmanta 1
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