giRLbye. Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 i thought "Renaissance" was the album & era of having fun with dance music 1
jane Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 1 minute ago, giRLbye. said: i thought "Renaissance" was the album & era of having fun with dance music She still made a strong statement by paying tribute to gay culture with her uncle Johnny. Deep down some of the attacks on her since that era started is because of it. Homophobia is not completely gone, far from it. Many celebrated this era but it also bothered many others, who used excuses to come at Bey, especially those conservative black folks in the church, they are heated about this album.
Kassi Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, jane said: I'm just so proud of Bey for staying away from that Israel-Palestine stuff. I'm sorry but at some point people have the right to mind their business and admit they dont know everything. Just because they are mega stars doesn't mean they can share opinions on everything. Bey is not a US diplomat. Enough of this. I truly hope next era she goes back with the IASF vibe and only makes hits. Nothing deep just good songs and make your coins woman. None of those people are worth it. They always end up turning on her no matter what she does. I agree. But I have to say, the funny thing about this is that, back when she wasn’t the face of social justice to these people, they were calling her out for “not speaking up”. I remember being so confused cause Chime For Change started in Feb 2013, well before the Self-Titled (Dec 2013) feminist declaration, and she had been attending Trayvon Martin rallies that same summer of 2013. Then I realized it’s because they didn’t keep up with her activism like that. They wanted her to be in FRONT of the movement before they could credit her. Then when she did so in 2016, it was called performative and exploitative, even when she went to great lengths to make Formation single FREE for 3 months. I’ve been in this for so long that I see all their patterns now. It’s always about humbling the woman, so they will find a way. The key is to ignore and shut them down. They’ll use fancy buzzwords and wrap up their disdain in activist language and academic theories, but these are not serious people. They are posers (and MANY times Rihanna stans or fans of lesser RnB girls).
Shone Ai Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 The press for the film DID make big deal about it being released on World AID Day
PrettyHurts Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) The most annoying part of the article is her saying that people project radicalness onto bey. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone in the hive or bey herself refer to her politics as radical. She focuses mostly on the craft of it and the messaging is secondary. I understand wanting her to be more clear about the stances that she takes but that review is just a mean spirited takedown and completely unfair to her Edited December 5, 2023 by PrettyHurts 2
Chris Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 @V$. not us getting a release date and a trailer before the Renaissance visuals. 2
Kassi Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 I just had war flashbacks to defending her feminism in 2014 and trying to get the girls to understand that she had indeed been feminist her entire career and to just look at the messages in her music catalogue for proof. Oh I used to so earnest and naive. Meanwhile those people were trolling. We’ve come a long way
Kassi Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 Cuff It (Live RWT Version) haters lost that day 2
yonsé Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 8 hours ago, PrettyHurts said: y'all need to just accept that parkwood and the rest of the world have moved on from the visuals this is false. If parkwood moved on from them she wouldn’t have had Kevin prodigy mention them during the show. She just released a shirt 5 days ago that says “you are the visual baby” she is literally reminding us about them consistently. 1
Machete Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, yonsé said: this is false. If parkwood moved on from them she wouldn’t have had Kevin prodigy mention them during the show. She just released a shirt 5 days ago that says “you are the visual baby” she is literally reminding us about them consistently.
cloudbusting Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 so much happened in here today wow. a journey to catch up on so many pages 1. Renai- 3
cloudbusting Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kassi said: ^This is basically the cliff notes version oh I made sure to read through before commenting because a pet peeve of mine is people asking questions that are already answered a page or two before 1
yonsé Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Machete said: Yes I mentioned this shirt already. And when she released this shirt no one had moved on from FWT either. So idk what point you’re trying to make lol my point is that she’s using our desire for these to push her marketing, which means no she hasn’t moved on and forgotten about them. They are very present. Edited December 5, 2023 by yonsé 1
Kassi Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 Not this eating up all of the Church Gurl looks. It was truly ahead of its time 3
family.guy123 Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 how many documentaries has this footage been in now? Do we think this is all she has? 9
TizTiz Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 6 hours ago, QueenB said: I wish the film went into why she cut the "big" three out, was it logistical? Was it too straining on her voice? I would've liked to known Also when the horse wouldn't go up, I need the behind the scenes look backstage when that happened. I wanna see it a third time but AMC shows no listings this week, was this just a one weekend event? From the looks of it, it drags. ● "Thique" honestly looks like she's board. The highlights are the glimpse of visuals and the Britney sample. ● "All Up In Your Mind" looks like it's boring to audiences. The song already lacks on the album, but the live performance is boring. ● "Drunk In Love" is the of best of the 'Big 3", but it may be a bit much to sing already 2.5 hours into a 3 hour show. Seems like she did more live singing this tour, by the time you get to nearly the end, the ending of that arrangement is probably it bit much. 1 4
QueenB Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 39 minutes ago, yonsé said: this is false. If parkwood moved on from them she wouldn’t have had Kevin prodigy mention them during the show. She just released a shirt 5 days ago that says “you are the visual baby” she is literally reminding us about them consistently. She also had sticky notes in the movie saying the film will stay in her mind much like the FWT
yonsé Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 25 minutes ago, QueenB said: She also had sticky notes in the movie saying the film will stay in her mind much like the FWT Yes that’s what started this whole visuals discourse lol, I posted the sticky note this morning
QueenB Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, yonsé said: Yes that’s what started this whole visuals discourse lol, I posted the sticky note this morning oh oops, I havent paid attention the drama in the thread, I'm positive hive until further notice
V$. Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Chris said: @V$. not us getting a release date and a trailer before the Renaissance visuals. Well...
Kassi Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 48 minutes ago, TizTiz said: From the looks of it, it drags. ● "Thique" honestly looks like she's board. The highlights are the glimpse of visuals and the Britney sample. ● "All Up In Your Mind" looks like it's boring to audiences. The song already lacks on the album, but the live performance is boring. And now we’ve said it 1 1
PrettyHurts Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, family.guy123 said: how many documentaries has this footage been in now? Do we think this is all she has? Its a home video from the mid 80s after all at least she has something
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