Fleahive Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, bijonse said: All of these are ******* LIES you don’t even believe this **** Lyrically not the best but vocally the best and I saw a tiktok of a hundred students screaming the bridge at the top of their lungs like they at a trailer swiffer concert. What vocal stacking was better? What video did she look the best in? I'll wait! Edited August 14, 2023 by Fleahive
Triton Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 She just needs to get rid of the corny piano on Best Hit 4 Ever Had, replace it with some a cello or lower strings, maybe at the time it gag it down our throats consistently like she does “I Care” and all these tacky baguettes would be praising it. 1
Kristie Kuwa Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 So when do we admit The Gift is actually the second best album she released? Or are we afraid of the truth? 4
AxelFox Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: So when do we admit The Gift is actually the second best album she released? Or are we afraid of the truth? There's not enough Beyoncé on it to be considered an actual Beyoncé album 2
Kristie Kuwa Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, AxelFox said: There's not enough Beyoncé on it to be considered an actual Beyoncé album The songs that Bey did however kinda eat up her previous projects, dont you agree? Plus its actually 10 (11 if you include the FYWB remix) Beyoncé songs, which can be considered a full album if we're being honest Edited August 14, 2023 by Kristie Kuwa 2
AxelFox Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: The songs that Bey did however kinda eat up her previous projects, dont you agree? Plus its actually 10 (11 if you include the FYWB remix) Beyoncé songs, which can be considered a full album if we're being honest But she's barely featured on half of those. Idk to me this just feels like a collaborative project that she was a part of. It's hard to properly measure it against her other albums. 1
Carla Rosón Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) Y'all need to cut the bs already Without disrespecting them for how good they are, no one of her albums from 4 and backwards compare to the grandeur that are the big 3 (ST, Lems and Ren) And the recent lil cute side projects harbor some of her best songs as well (Summer, Bigger, etc) Edited August 14, 2023 by XtunaStan 3
Kristie Kuwa Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 Just now, AxelFox said: But she's barely featured on half of those. Idk to me this just feels like a collaborative project that she was a part of. It's hard to properly measure it against her other albums. Bigger - Bey FYWB - Bey Mood4Eva - Bey + Jay (majority Bey) Water - Bey + Pharell (majority Bey) BSG - Bey + Wizkid (majority Bey) Already - Bey + Shatta Wale Otherside - Bey My Power - Bey + all the others Spirit - Bey Black Parade - Bey FYWB Remix - Bey 5/11 collabs, 3 of these however predominantly Bey Yes its her most collab-heavy project, but its still mostly solo Bey on her tracks. 3
Pepo Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 59 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: So when do we admit The Gift is actually the second best album she released? Or are we afraid of the truth? Are we still pretending that The Gift is the greatest thing ever happened? Enough. 5 minutes ago, XtunaStan said: Y'all need to cut the bs already Without disrespecting them for how good they are, no one of her albums from 4 and backwards compare to the grandeur that are the big 3 (ST, Lems and Ren) And the recent lil cute side projects harbor some of her best songs as well (Summer, Bigger, etc) That could be only if you were allergic to R&B. So no, it's a flawed take. Both 4 and B'Day are splendid masterpieces. Even taking DC's catalogue into account, TWOTW as well as Destiny Fulfilled were showcasing Bey's outstanding creativity, artistry and genius at their time. All of those records are just as exquisite as Renaissance imo. 2 2
Kristie Kuwa Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Pepo said: Are we still pretending that The Gift is the greatest thing ever happened? Enough. That could be only if you were allergic to R&B. So no, it's a flawed take. Both 4 and B'Day are splendid masterpieces. Even taking DC's catalogue into account, TWOTW as well as Destiny Fulfilled were showcasing Bey's outstanding creativity, artistry and genius at their time. All of those records are just as exquisite as Renaissance imo. Bigger + Otherside easily rank among her best ballads ever, FYWB, Water and Already are certified bops, BSG has one of her best messages ever, Black Parade is masterfully executed and crafted and a Grammy-awarded song for a reason (not every song has that), My Power is now iconic thanks to Ms Blue. I mean, whats there to discredit? You mean to tell me Start Over can hold a candle against that or the very dated sounding I Miss You? Dont let numbers fool you, Ms Gift is THAT girl Edited August 14, 2023 by Kristie Kuwa 2 1
AxelFox Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Bigger - Bey FYWB - Bey Mood4Eva - Bey + Jay (majority Bey) Water - Bey + Pharell (majority Bey) BSG - Bey + Wizkid (majority Bey) Already - Bey + Shatta Wale Otherside - Bey My Power - Bey + all the others Spirit - Bey Black Parade - Bey FYWB Remix - Bey 5/11 collabs, 3 of these however predominantly Bey Yes its her most collab-heavy project, but its still mostly solo Bey on her tracks. She has like 10 seconds on Water and a shared chorus at the end, and she's basically a feature on songs like My Power. Not to mention some of these are really short. Black Parade is a standalone song that she decided to just plaster on the deluxe edition. Idk this whole The Gift thing exists in its own separate realm outside of her studio albums for me. 1
Bicassie Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Bigger + Otherside easily rank among her best ballads ever, FYWB, Water and Already are certified bops, BSG has one of her best messages ever, Black Parade is masterfully executed and crafted and a Grammy-awarded song for a reason (not every song has that), My Power is now iconic thanks to Ms Blue. I mean, whats there to discredit? You mean to tell me Start Over can hold a candle against that or the very dated sounding I Miss You? Dont let numbers fool you, Ms Gift is THAT girl I agree the gift eats up half her albums in particular IASF, debut and lemonade srry let’s talk about lemonade actually being upper bottom half of her discog 2
Kristie Kuwa Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, AxelFox said: She has like 10 seconds on Water and a shared chorus at the end, and she's basically a feature on songs like My Power. Not to mention some of these are really short. Black Parade is a standalone song that she decided to just plaster on the deluxe edition. Idk this whole The Gift thing exists in its own separate realm outside of her studio albums for me. So 7/11 doesnt belongs to ST, Schoolin Life doesnt belong to 4? WDYLM doesnt belongs to IASF? Inchresting Plus Black Parade was included because it basically aligned with the Black is King premiere 1
Bicassie Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 Renaissance B’Day BEYONCÉ 4 Black Is King Lemonade IASF DIL EVERYTHING IS LOVE
EDEJtheArtist Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 RENAISSANCE Lemonade BEYONCÉ B’Day 4 Dangerously in Love The Gift Everything is Love I Am… Sasha Fierce
Triton Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 Gift eats Lemonade for sure, with its 7-8 songs >>> depressed monotone dialogue Bigger, Otherside are some of her greatest ballads. Proper ones she hadn’t delivered in quite a while. Already, Water easy slays. FYWB, BSG, easygoing music which are relatable. We count B’Days 11 songs as an album so why not the gift. The sis just has a horrible or genius way of naming albums. The best thing about lemonade is it’s title. 1
Pepo Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 9 hours ago, Bicassie said: 3D art in the scrapped interlude references the shell the cone bra… the multiple faces headpiece… the painting is filled with visuals easter eggs… the rocket she stands on for alien superstar merch… All I know is that given the premises alone this project could easily top, but also surpass Lemonade and Black Is King, already two flawless products It's going to be worth the wait. 7 hours ago, cloudbusting said: bjöncé is an acquired taste! and I’m That GOD haters should acquire some! tbh I’d love for her to do her own Medúlla type record where it’s built almost entirely on voice. we know she’s a master w harmony, it would be so exciting to hear how far she could push it She's the only one in the music industry who's talented and gifted enough to serve such an avant-garde record. She kinda teased something like this with 8 Days Of Christmas, Get Me Bodied, Run The World, Church Girl, etc. A collabo with a queen like Björk should be compulsory. Besides, I'd like to hear her implent also some Bulgarian choirs/folk singing 1
Draper. Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 Imagine an album consisting of light bops with mid lyrics like FYWB, Already, M4E or Water is better than Lemonade. Let’s not. 1 3
AxelFox Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: So 7/11 doesnt belongs to ST, Schoolin Life doesnt belong to 4? WDYLM doesnt belongs to IASF? Inchresting Plus Black Parade was included because it basically aligned with the Black is King premiere I don't count 7/11 either no, what a stain that would be on ST Schoolin' Life is different because it was included (alongside other new tracks) in a rearranged tracklist of the album. Black Parade was just plastered as a bonus track at the end. Have not listened to IASF in full in years to remember what the situation with WDYLM was nor do I care tbh. But let's say we take The Gift as an EP, I still wouldn't put it above most of her other albums. It's better than Everything In Love though, that's for sure. 1
Otter Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 Lets not do too much, 6 inch's bridge alone wipes the floor with The Gift. They're so very different I don't really see the need to compare them though. I'd say lemonade is a better execution of its concept then what The Gift is of its concept.
Pepo Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 39 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Bigger + Otherside easily rank among her best ballads ever, FYWB, Water and Already are certified bops, BSG has one of her best messages ever, Black Parade is masterfully executed and crafted and a Grammy-awarded song for a reason (not every song has that), My Power is now iconic thanks to Ms Blue. I mean, whats there to discredit? You mean to tell me Start Over can hold a candle against that or the very dated sounding I Miss You? Dont let numbers fool you, Ms Gift is THAT girl Bigger and Otherside, great gowns, beautiful gowns. Could never compete with greatness like Resentment, Listen, 1+1, etc. BSG and My Power are beautiful and meaningful songs though. I'll give you that. I forgot that Black Parade has won a Grammy 1
Triton Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Otter said: Lets not do too much, 6 inch's bridge alone wipes the floor with The Gift. They're so very different I don't really see the need to compare them though. I'd say lemonade is a better execution of its concept then what The Gift is of its concept. Luckily 6 Inch was meant for ST, which would have fit in sonically quite beautifully, take that away and one less highlight for Lemon. Take away Lemons spoken poems, visuals and that critical acclaim would go way down. But yes Lemon as an overall message gave a bigger punch, people want to hear about drama as opposed to a celebration. 1
benyonce Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 Let me add my thoughts on all the hot takes going on in here: Heated Virgo's Groove Thiqué Cuff it Alien Superstar America Has A Problem Cozy I'm That Girl Break My Soul Move Energy Summer Renaissance Plastic Off The Sofa Pure/Honey All Up In Your Mind Church Girl Renaissance The Gift (Otherside, Water, FYWB and Bigger cary this album) Lemonade ST 4 Bday Dangerously in Love IASF Oh and BTINH is amazing and y'all do way too much on this poor song. The amount of times I've screamed that bridge in the shower, I'd hate to admit.
Triton Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pepo said: Bigger and Otherside, great gowns, beautiful gowns. Could never compete with greatness like Resentment, Listen, 1+1, etc. BSG and My Power are beautiful and meaningful songs though. I'll give you that. I forgot that Black Parade has won a Grammy But Bigger and Otherside aren’t dependent on someone else for credibility. Resentment only got popularly when he cheated on her, Listen is a great Vocal but cliche yet effective, 1+1 a pretty love song. You honestly can’t say BSG and My Power are beautiful and meaningful without including Bigger and Otherside. They’re so universal 1
AxelFox Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 There's just no way y'all actually believe anything is better than Virgo's Groove
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