Blue Rose Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, swissman said: let's be real the THIQUE-AUIUM-DIL segment was the weakest of them all and she was right to cut it. not when Church Girl - Get Me Bodied - Rather Die Young exists 3
Chris Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 People discussing "weak points" of the show. There are NO weak points throughout the show. Let's be honest here.
Chris Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 I personally love love LOVED the Dique-Drunk on Vocals segment of the show however I also like the Rather Die Young section as well. Rather not live at ALLLLLLLLL.
Bicassie Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, swissman said: She also sings "Paint the world ***** pink" on the album...seems like that. Doesn’t that basically mean the same thing when you think about it no but its probably referring to that lyric yeah
Bicassie Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 She is wrong for cutting that section over certain other ones no one asked for 1
swissman Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, Bicassie said: Doesn’t that basically mean the same thing when you think about it no but its probably referring to that lyric yeah You are correct now that I think of the lyric in the context of the pride flag colour name drops.
swissman Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Chris said: People discussing "weak points" of the show. There are NO weak points throughout the show. Let's be honest here. Agree, there are no weak points. The weaker points have been cut. Edited July 21, 2023 by swissman
kimberly Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 the weakest point of the show is when she goes backstage to change and they play 7/11 1 3
Chris Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 How do you guys feel about the new Formation outfit? Very similar to the Formation Tour Crazy in Love outfit, right?
swissman Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: not when Church Girl - Get Me Bodied - Rather Die Young exists I mean, is Beyoncé bending over on a metal bar she's been at million times since 2003 in the relative dark singing THIQUE (which isn't really a vocally dynamic song) then walking over to another spot and bending down to sing AAIYM really that great? The songs are, but the staging is not. And if I'm honest, the performances of DIL have never quite been as good as the song itself. They never quite elevated it (except for the literal elevation she did in Dubai), and maybe it didn't need to. Plus a certain lyric in the same concert she tributes Tina Turner is maybe not the look. Compare that to the vocally impressive three you've cited, and the active choreography she does through Get Me Bodied, the peppy performance of CHURCH GIRL, and the vocals of RDY, it's not the same imo. We know Beyoncé watches back her performances. I think it's pretty clear she would have watched the cut segment and realized it's just not hitting like the others. Edited July 21, 2023 by swissman 2
swissman Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, Chris said: How do you guys feel about the new Formation outfit? Very similar to the Formation Tour Crazy in Love outfit, right? I adore it! And that look was one of my faves from the tour too (especially with the dickie in place).
swissman Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) ALSO, neither THIQUE nor AUIYM are lyrically integral to the story or point of RENAISSANCE both being extensions of the same self-pride, romantic bodaciousness outlined already on the tour through songs like ALIEN SUPERSTAR (more clearly) and PLASTIC OFF THE SOFA. Omitting a song like CHURCH GIRL removes the entire commentary it brings about the duality of human sexuality, and the religious experience of the club, as well as tying together the notions of sex and otherworldliness as presented in pieces throughout the album. Edited July 21, 2023 by swissman
Chris Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 Well personally for me, I LOVED the way Thique was introduced as a performance. The way the interlude/segue played the instrumental of the song first mixed with some elements from End of Time, paused for a bit, and then boom: Thique. I also loved the red demonic/satanic visuals for All Up in Your Mind. And then her last runs on Drunk in Love was just.... 2
mariposa Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, kimberly said: the weakest point of the show is when she goes backstage to change and they play 7/11 you clearly don't know what you're talking about listen to the way the crowd erupts Edited July 21, 2023 by mariposa
QueenB Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 41 minutes ago, Chris said: People discussing "weak points" of the show. There are NO weak points throughout the show. Let's be honest here. Except for Alien Superstar when she starts sweet dreams and the stadium gets whiplash when she doesnt sing any of it 2
Chris Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, QueenB said: Except for Alien Superstar when she starts sweet dreams and the stadium gets whiplash when she doesnt sing any of it She was so wrong for this. The way Sweet Dreams has been done wrong since 2008 is a literal crime. Was there ever a performance of Sweet Dreams where she sang it in its entirety? 2
Jon Snow Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, swissman said: I mean, is Beyoncé bending over on a metal bar she's been at million times since 2003 in the relative dark singing THIQUE (which isn't really a vocally dynamic song) then walking over to another spot and bending down to sing AAIYM really that great? The songs are, but the staging is not. And if I'm honest, the performances of DIL have never quite been as good as the song itself. They never quite elevated it (except for the literal elevation she did in Dubai), and maybe it didn't need to. Plus a certain lyric in the same concert she tributes Tina Turner is maybe not the look. Compare that to the vocally impressive three you've cited, and the active choreography she does through Get Me Bodied, the peppy performance of CHURCH GIRL, and the vocals of RDY, it's not the same imo. We know Beyoncé watches back her performances. I think it's pretty clear she would have watched the cut segment and realized it's just not hitting like the others. I have to disagree. DIL at Homecoming was one of the best parts of the show. I loved it so much. It is true that songs from Self-Titled do not translate well live, but sometimes they hit just fine
AxelFox Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 25 minutes ago, swissman said: We know Beyoncé watches back her performances. I think it's pretty clear she would have watched the cut segment and realized it's just not hitting like the others. Well she should've realized Virgo's Groove is not hitting like the others and add some choreo to it as well 3
swissman Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jon Snow said: I have to disagree. DIL at Homecoming was one of the best parts of the show. I loved it so much. It is true that songs from Self-Titled do not translate well live, but sometimes they hit just fine Agreed. I actually thought about that afterwards as one of the ones I thought worked best, but even in that case it was more that she was literally elevated. It's a fantastic song and so soundtracked a fantastic moment in Homecoming as well but she didn't have to do more than be extremely charismatic, it wasn't that it was staged in such a brilliant way that it expanded the song, per se, if that makes sense? Though I guess the prop counts as staging. The surfboard part was good though, that really did elevate the feeling with the way the dancers did it with her. Edited July 21, 2023 by swissman 3
swissman Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, AxelFox said: Well she should've realized Virgo's Groove is not hitting like the others and add some choreo to it as well Indeed, but I think cutting stuff is easier once on tour than restaging something, getting new choreography, etc. so it remains as is. Plus maybe she wanted to keep her voice relaxed for that? Edited July 21, 2023 by swissman
Bicassie Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 the truth is that the opening act and the whole opulence section wasn’t needed they are nice bonus sections but the main show would have made more sense with THIQUE/AUIYM/DIL included over those two acts but ideally she could have just cut down certain songs no one would have needed here and there the songs i’d delete to bring back that section: -rather die young -before i let go -the tina cover these songs were not needed tbh 4
kimberly Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, mariposa said: you clearly don't know what you're talking about listen to the way the crowd erupts they erupt because someone jumps on stage... when they realize it's not her it's crickets Spoiler tbf I was just joking because 7/11 is one of her weaker songs (even though it's a bop)
Tripthelight Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 I was kinda annoyed when she started to perform Rather Die Young…but it’s been on my mind ever since. I literally woke up singing it. Also loved the way she added the Speechless, Rocket, and Dance For You lyrics into the outro of Virgo’s Groove. I hadn’t heard any one talking about it, and was pleasantly surprised. HEATED was my favorite performance though. Her energy was just magical. 2
kimberly Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Bicassie said: the songs i’d delete to bring back that section: -before i let go -the tina cover these songs were not needed tbh JAIL 2
DR0GO Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 Are there any songs from her discography you feel Beyonce hates performing?
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