Thinking Of You Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, professor2000 said: I also said this in the Base too. But ppl shitted on the idea. Lol. Especially since Pop can be way more Urban sounding these days (given all the mixing of genres now). She could’ve done some cute Rhythmic hits that would’ve done well on Urban too. Didn’t have to be cheesy Guetta type pop of the old days. A more updated Pop Nicki but with her usual bars. I mean Doja is right there with the sound and Nicki is the one who created it She should’ve just went back to it
Mattyboy Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 Still top of 10 on Apple Music so who cares
#Beautiful Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 52 minutes ago, professor2000 said: The initial hype was there though. Many bloggers/YouTubers were hyping up her return + were actually genuinely excited. My point of saying surprise/early release wouldn’t be for the sake of the surprise (w/ no promo like Bey)…moreso to just deliver the full product immediately/quickly. Even if it’s within 1-2 weeks of announcement. Looking at Beyoncé’s trajectory…she had a similar struggle with 4. Her lead single only peaked Top 30. “Best Thing I Never Had” barely did any better (Top 20). Delivering the album in whole basically revived her career….if we’re going to be honest. I mean, obviously the music needs to be top notch. And Beyonce other non-music factors weren’t quite as bad as Nicki’s (bad press w/ husband, rivalry with other competition, etc). But I think Nicki needs to rethink album release strategy. That was my point. But I wouldn’t be shocked if this is her last era anyways atp. The difference between Maraj and Knowles is that one is talented enough to pull of a daring strategy while the other hasn't had a song close to decent since the same year LMFAO were charting on the Billboard chart and whose "hits" had nothing to do with rap skills there will never exist another Nicki Minaj album unless she goes indepentent and releases it on her own ass, which will never happen since the sole reason she's been putting out this dreadful music for so long with no effort is quick money
#Beautiful Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 50 minutes ago, Kings. said: Who said DWHAP? was dropping that far? Anyway, worry about your fave and her one hit that she’s only able to get thanks to the holiday season because she’s not charting any other songs in the Hot 100 anytime soon her name is LITERALLY in your sig are you alright?
professor2000 Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 33 minutes ago, Thinking Of You said: I mean Doja is right there with the sound and Nicki is the one who created it She should’ve just went back to it Lol! Exactly. And Doja loves her some Nicki, a collab definitely could’ve also been in the plan. Oh well!
Kings. Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, #Beautiful said: The difference between Maraj and Knowles is that one is talented enough to pull of a daring strategy while the other hasn't had a song close to decent since the same year LMFAO were charting on the Billboard chart and whose "hits" had nothing to do with rap skills there will never exist another Nicki Minaj album unless she goes indepentent and releases it on her own ass, which will never happen since the sole reason she's been putting out this dreadful music for so long with no effort is quick money Is that why Republic begged her to put one out over two years ago, but she wasn’t onboard since she was pregnant? I can’t wait to quote this desperate post when her new album does come out. Worry about Miss #Beautiful. She should be the one going indie given the lack of success with the last album.
#Beautiful Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 18 hours ago, Kings. said: Is that why Republic begged her to put one out over two years ago, but she wasn’t onboard since she was pregnant? I can’t wait to quote this desperate post when her new album does come out. Worry about Miss #Beautiful. She should be the one going indie given the lack of success with the last album. get help i swear theres hope for everyone ❤️
slw84 Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 On 2/14/2022 at 11:41 AM, Domination said: No, it’s not a hit. Just like Butter, a multi-week #1, was not a hit. Mass buying does nothing to give a song impact and it shows considering Nicki has records for how quickly her songs fall out of the Hot 100. Yes, in the streaming era hits are determined by longevity not peaks a la BTS, Travis and others mass buying. In a month, if this song is regaining then it might turn into a hit. for now, it's just another song her stans mass purchased mostly On 2/14/2022 at 10:36 AM, Thinking Of You said: She needs to go back to doing pop rap. Nope. She needs to put out classic rap music. pop rap was her weakest artistically. Doja has perfected the pop rap watered down songs of past female rappers (Salt n pepa, lil kim, eve etc.)
Thinking Of You Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, slw84 said: Nope. She needs to put out classic rap music. pop rap was her weakest artistically. Doja has perfected the pop rap watered down songs of past female rappers (Salt n pepa, lil kim, eve etc.) You do understand that was never her strength commercially, right? Nicki Minaj is not known and will never be known for authentic rap with depth. She’s known for being fun and witty and that’s where her appeal will always lie. She will never been seen as a Kendrick or J. Cole. She tried to enter that lane before and everyone paid it dust.
slw84 Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 On 2/14/2022 at 12:06 PM, Thinking Of You said: I mean Doja is right there with the sound and Nicki is the one who created it She should’ve just went back to it Created??? I wouldn't go that far. Many female rappers attempted to make pop rap songs and it worked against them long term. Doja is doing it correctly. She's not watering down her sound. She's a fusion artist. Salt n pepa/Kim/Eve/Missy experimented and it wasn't a long term play and went back to hip hop. Bussin is not something she should be putting out at this point in her career. Content driven material would do wonders On 2/14/2022 at 12:36 PM, #Beautiful said: The difference between Maraj and Knowles is that one is talented enough to pull of a daring strategy while the other hasn't had a song close to decent since the same year LMFAO were charting on the Billboard chart and whose "hits" had nothing to do with rap skills there will never exist another Nicki Minaj album unless she goes indepentent and releases it on her own ass, which will never happen since the sole reason she's been putting out this dreadful music for so long with no effort is quick money Also, at no point did Nicki ever reach Beyonce status even at I am sasha fierce her most pop era. Beyonce's 4 underperformed because her lead was a silly Willow smith whip my hair nickolodeon mess. With perfection like Party and other songs that could have led the era and things would be different. Beyonce is also an entertainer. Mariah couldn't pull a BEYONCE. The entertainment factor played a big part of the hype. Nicki should have created a hip hop BEYONCE by now or at least attempted to but it takes alot more than strategy to make that work. Songs like Bussin won't do the trick even if it was smashing on spotify.
slw84 Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Thinking Of You said: You do understand that was never her strength commercially, right? Nicki Minaj is not known and will never be known for authentic rap with depth. She’s known for being fun and witty and that’s where her appeal will always lie. She will never been seen as a Kendrick or J. Cole. She tried to enter that lane before and everyone paid it dust. True but the timing of when she tried to enter that lane was a big problem. She needs to focus on content now more than ever. She doesn't have that likability factor anymore for fun and witty outside of her stanbase that will mass buy anything. She needs to reinvent. Bussin is not a song that gives people another look into her. It's just like many other songs she's put out and it's not clicking. A reinvention is needed. Nicki did pop rap because the EDM style was at its end. It wasn't authentic to her and we can see the difference in how Doja is authentically pop and rhythmic but also puts out raps. Doja showed all the past attempts by female rappers to go hip Pop how to do it properly. Blazin, Champion, Up in flames are songs that have the wit but also the content for instance. Bussin ain't it.
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