supertiffany Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 9 hours ago, FAN said: It’s 2021, that kind of promo is useless now. folklore, evermore, SOUR, Planet Her & MONTERO didn’t have any promo first week either. It will work since the viewers of GMA, SNL are old crowds who are most likely to buy vinyls that oprah special didnt even mention the date of her upcoming album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
americanlife Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 4 hours ago, supertiffany said: It will work since the viewers of GMA, SNL are old crowds who are most likely to buy vinyls that oprah special didnt even mention the date of her upcoming album These days, older people are buying CDs, young people buy vinyl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertiffany Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, americanlife said: These days, older people are buying CDs, young people buy vinyl. okay then more people would have bought still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethereal Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Pure sales are more profitable than streams, since Spotify takes more from those streams than other platforms and stores take from pure sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertiffany Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 28 minutes ago, Aristotle said: Pure sales are more profitable than streams, since Spotify takes more from those streams than other platforms and stores take from pure sales. yeah the earnings in streams are piss i dont believe that Spotify is having losses, surely they are cheating to give lower returns to the label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethereal Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 34 minutes ago, supertiffany said: yeah the earnings in streams are piss i dont believe that Spotify is having losses, surely they are cheating to give lower returns to the label. Yeah it's better that Adele is making more through pure sales. More profit for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family.guy123 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 hour ago, supertiffany said: yeah the earnings in streams are piss i dont believe that Spotify is having losses, surely they are cheating to give lower returns to the label. You should call the FBI if you have proof. That’s no joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual_Insanity Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 17 hours ago, FAN said: Show us the performances from the week those artists released albums then. Promo is not just "performances". Stop acting brand new. Its 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Promo is not just "performances". Stop acting brand new. Its 2021. They literally were referring to performances. Again, just stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual_Insanity Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Adele slaying. Taylor is lucky she snuck that one week at number one by changing her release date, otherwize hurricane Adele would have simply blown her out of the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertiffany Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 6 hours ago, family.guy123 said: You should call the FBI if you have proof. That’s no joke. You suggested it, then you do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family.guy123 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 31 minutes ago, supertiffany said: You suggested it, then you do it. Please point me to where I suggested Spotify is committing fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Adele slaying. Taylor is lucky she snuck that one week at number one by changing her release date, otherwize hurricane Adele would have simply blown her out of the water. In most other times she would have at least 2 maybe 3 weeks at #1 right now. Having 0 with those numbers would have been very very unlucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 6 hours ago, supertiffany said: You suggested it, then you do it. No you did And of course Spotify is having losses. Streaming is still not a buisness model that works. Guess the monthly rate isnt high enough but increasing that now seems difficult And you obviously have users who stream a lot and users who streams very little. Both pay the same but Spotify has to pay out way more for one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argos Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 7 hours ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Adele slaying. Taylor is lucky she snuck that one week at number one by changing her release date, otherwize hurricane Adele would have simply blown her out of the water. and by blown away you mean “outsold a re-recording for 200k sales with a brand new album” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertiffany Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 5 hours ago, argos said: and by blown away you mean “outsold a re-recording for 200k sales with a brand new album” “outsold a re-recording with 5 months announcement and more than twice the songs for 234k sales with a brand new album on first week, and 186k more on the second week” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopFan1996 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 hours ago, supertiffany said: “outsold a re-recording with 5 months announcement and more than twice the songs for 234k sales with a brand new album on first week, and 186k more on the second week” When you put it like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family.guy123 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 8 hours ago, argos said: and by blown away you mean “outsold a re-recording for 200k sales with a brand new album” is 200k supposed to be a small amount? only 12 albums have sold 200k TOTAL in 2021. not to mention the difference in sales was actually 323k, which only 6 albums have reached in the past year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 hours ago, supertiffany said: “outsold a re-recording with 5 months announcement and more than twice the songs for 234k sales with a brand new album on first week, and 186k more on the second week” You ignoring the main point I'm surprised you didn't bring up cat hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual_Insanity Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 3 hours ago, supertiffany said: “outsold a re-recording with 5 months announcement and more than twice the songs for 234k sales with a brand new album on first week, and 186k more on the second week” And all without digital bundles and merch bundles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopFan1996 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, Headlock said: You ignoring the main point I'm surprised you didn't bring up cat hair. Can y'all stop with the "re-recording" excuse? It was absolutely marketed like a brand new album. - 8 (9) brand new songs. -Lots of hype and pre-orders months before it's release ( 5 months of Taylor hyping her fanbase and even was active on TikTok just for that) -2 high production music videos ( one of them is basically a movie with two very famous actors) released in the same week. -A premiere of the mini-movie in AMC Theatres at Lincoln Square, New York with a red-carpet and all and many celebrities attended. -SNL on the release week. -Many versions of the lead single (ATW) -A song from the album impacted radios and is now top 20 ( Message in a Bottle) Don't get me wrong, the numbers are very impressive but it was marketed like a brand new album and for you to use " re-recording" every single time as an argument is just not logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, PopFan1996 said: Can y'all stop with the "re-recording" excuse? It was absolutely marketed like a brand new album. - 8 (9) brand new songs. -Lots of hype and pre-orders months before it's release ( 5 months of Taylor hyping her fanbase and even was active on TikTok just for that) -2 high production music videos ( one of them is basically a movie with two very famous actors) released in the same week. -A premiere of the mini-movie in AMC Theatres at Lincoln Square, New York with a red-carpet and all and many celebrities attended. -SNL on the release week. -Many versions of the lead single (ATW) -A song from the album impacted radios and is now top 20 ( Message in a Bottle) Don't get me wrong, the numbers are very impressive but it was marketed like a brand new album and for you to use " re-recording" every single time as an argument is just not logical. It literally is not illogical because it literally is a re-recording. It doesn't matter how it's marketed, this album almost a decade old and is already 7x platinum. It should not be selling like this. It's not an "excuse", it's literally a factual reality. Fearless arguably had more hype as it was the first of the re-recordings, and she actually released singles before the release, and it did only half of what Red did. The entire point is that the comparison of the two (Red TV and 30) is stupid, but the fact remains that no one expected Red TV to perform how it's performing, not even Taylor's label, as evidenced by the physicals being sold out everywhere. You are co-signing a user on here who obsessively denigrates Taylor (including her cats which is weird as fuck), and is actively trying to compare the two releases to make Adele look better. That isn't a good thing, of course you would expect Adele to outsell a re-recording Edited December 6, 2021 by Headlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byzantium Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 6 hours ago, PopFan1996 said: Can y'all stop with the "re-recording" excuse? It was absolutely marketed like a brand new album. - 8 (9) brand new songs. -Lots of hype and pre-orders months before it's release ( 5 months of Taylor hyping her fanbase and even was active on TikTok just for that) -2 high production music videos ( one of them is basically a movie with two very famous actors) released in the same week. -A premiere of the mini-movie in AMC Theatres at Lincoln Square, New York with a red-carpet and all and many celebrities attended. -SNL on the release week. -Many versions of the lead single (ATW) -A song from the album impacted radios and is now top 20 ( Message in a Bottle) Don't get me wrong, the numbers are very impressive but it was marketed like a brand new album and for you to use " re-recording" every single time as an argument is just not logical. This is a nonsensical argument. You could market a cat as a dog, but that would not change the fact that it is still a cat. To pretend it is not what it is is a little delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, byzantium said: This is a nonsensical argument. You could market a cat as a dog, but that would not change the fact that it is still a cat. To pretend it is not what it is is a little delusional. I’m sorry but this is reminding me of Gaga’s “you would not critic and English paper” speech and I’m cackling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAN Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 It’s Monday night, where are the predictions for the new week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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