charts discussion Beyoncé's Be Alive fails to chart on the BBH100

[alfonso12]

Tragic.  

[Blue G]

On 11/24/2021 at 4:46 PM, Mitchell said:

I was told soundtracks were sure fire hits I'm confused?

For popular movies, let's not act obtuse.

[Blue G]

On 11/26/2021 at 11:05 PM, swissman said:

And this makes sense because Beyoncé saw the film and then reached out to record a song for it.

 

Those wanting it to sound more like a traditional ballad and less like a soundtrack for the end credits are forgetting what purpose the song is meant to serve.

Getting bet an Oscar?

Edited November 30, 2021 by Blue G

[Diocles]

6 minutes ago, Blue G said:

For popular movies, let's not act obtuse.

The Lion King wasn’t popular? 

Cause her previous soundtrack tanked too 

[swissman]

5 hours ago, Diocles said:

The Lion King wasn’t popular? 

Cause her previous soundtrack tanked too 

The Lion King was extremely popular, but Spirit was shortly and poorly edited into the final film. I don't see how people would have seen it in the film and then left wanting to go listen to it. It felt like an afterthought and unlike every other song in the film. it wasn't sung by character, even if it was Nala's voice. It was like Simba-running-background music for like 30 seconds and they re-edited it too, switching parts of the song around. It was really weird. Plus the music in the film was kinda bad as a whole, and who was going to The Lion King looking for new songs when the original is beloved as it is.

 

My critique of the film: they should've not made it a musical. If they were going to make it so "real", why keep the singing? Add to that how they didn't do any of the fun things visually the original did, and the performances of the songs were dull. It should have been just live-action and Spirit should have been the end credits song instead of the Elton John one, or, they should have just kept Spirit as a song for The Gift. Had they done that I think The Gift would have been less confusing, since it was the lead single for the soundtrack and The Gift, which was released one week after the OST.

Edited November 30, 2021 by swissman

[HausofNick]

1 hour ago, swissman said:

My critique of the film: they should've not made it a musical. If they were going to make it so "real", why keep the singing? Add to that how they didn't do any of the fun things visually the original did, and the performances of the songs were dull. It should have been just live-action and Spirit should have been the end credits song instead of the Elton John one, or, they should have just kept Spirit as a song for The Gift. Had they done that I think The Gift would have been less confusing, since it was the lead single for the soundtrack and The Gift, which was released one week after the OST.

no one wants to see the lion king without the music

 

the story is literally the most barebones part of the film. what made lion king THE lion king was the music and fantastic soundtrack that accompanied the film

 

Spirit the song just sucked and when it sits alongside other incredibly classic reimagined Disney songs such as The Circle of Life and Can You Feel the Love Tonight, it's not surprising no one cared about the song itself

 

I agree The Gift was indeed confusing and people more than likely didn't know what the hell the point of that album was, but that is partially her team's and disney's own fault in how they promoted Bey's contribution to the live-action film

[unclefloprry]

Wops

[swissman]

3 hours ago, HausofNick said:

no one wants to see the lion king without the music

 

the story is literally the most barebones part of the film. what made lion king THE lion king was the music and fantastic soundtrack that accompanied the film

 

Spirit the song just sucked and when it sits alongside other incredibly classic reimagined Disney songs such as The Circle of Life and Can You Feel the Love Tonight, it's not surprising no one cared about the song itself

 

I agree The Gift was indeed confusing and people more than likely didn't know what the hell the point of that album was, but that is partially her team's and disney's own fault in how they promoted Bey's contribution to the live-action film

I very much agree that the music is the best part of the original film, BUT if you're going to cut out all the amazing, fun visuals that only animation can do...visuals that brought the songs to life so that you don't just have animals running around singing...it's not going to have the same effect overall. Plus, the music from the soundtrack is pretty bad and doesn't compare to the original. Be Prepared alone, from a vocal performance perspective, was so bad and is one of the film's highlights. So I just think they should have changed the story in the places that needed it and retold it different if they wanted to be true to life. If not, they why not stack animal on animal on animal in I Just Can't Wait To Be King, etc. 

 

As for Spirit's quality. I personally love it. I'm also Hive, though not every Beyoncé fan loves it. But given how poorly it was used in the film (and how as you said, the music is the main part) and how not even Disney soundtrack singles by Ariana or Zayn (whose came out earlier that year before TLK) managed to do much better, I don't think it was some huge surprising flop.

 

I also think had Spirit been used in full in the film it would have done a least a bit better. I mean full placement that integrates into the story (Nala singing/inspiring Simba or something) would have a much bigger effect than simply having Simba run while it plays in the background. I doubt people left the theatre thinking "What's that Beyoncé background music song?".

 

And actually, Spirit wasn't meant for within the film, but that changes occurred and Elton's song was put as the end credits instead and Spirit was added into the movie as brief background music so it was potentially eligible for the Oscars.

Edited November 30, 2021 by swissman

[Hallad173]

Whew, this is a damn war zone ?

[Blue Skies]

On 11/26/2021 at 11:12 PM, Nick_317 said:

Good for Beyonce's standards

[Cryptique]

On 11/27/2021 at 12:12 PM, Nick_317 said:

Good for Beyonce's standards

[Cryptique]

On 11/25/2021 at 7:33 PM, Aurora said:

i tried to tell y'all katy was following a beyonce-like career trajectory and y'all wouldn't listen

[abeille]

On 11/24/2021 at 3:48 PM, princedonte said:

She’s been flopping for years. Her days as a top artists is over seems like. 

 

On 11/24/2021 at 3:40 PM, Queen. said:

 

 

 

On 11/24/2021 at 5:50 PM, rp662 said:

 

On 11/25/2021 at 2:02 AM, Broken said:

BOMB after BOMB after BOMB . The female Katy.

 

On 12/1/2021 at 10:34 AM, Cryptique said:

#1 Break My Soul

#13 Cuff It

#19 Alien Superstar

#22 Church Girl

#26 I'm That Girl

#27 Energy

#30 Cozy

#41 Plastic off the Sofa

#43 Virgo's Groove

#47 Summer Renaissance

#51 Heated

#53 Thique

#55 Move

#64 Pure/Honey

#69 America Has a Problem

#70 All Up in Your Mind

 

Y'all SWORE on your lives that she was over. Take this big fat L

 

[Bingo]

3 minutes ago, abeille said:

 

 

 

 

#1 Break My Soul

#13 Cuff It

#19 Alien Superstar

#22 Church Girl

#26 I'm That Girl

#27 Energy

#30 Cozy

#41 Plastic off the Sofa

#43 Virgo's Groove

#47 Summer Renaissance

#51 Heated

#53 Thique

#55 Move

#64 Pure/Honey

#69 America Has a Problem

#70 All Up in Your Mind

 

Y'all SWORE on your lives that she was over. Take this big fat L

 

Whew, gather them!

 

[Lovett]

8 minutes ago, abeille said:

 

 

 

 

#1 Break My Soul

#13 Cuff It

#19 Alien Superstar

#22 Church Girl

#26 I'm That Girl

#27 Energy

#30 Cozy

#41 Plastic off the Sofa

#43 Virgo's Groove

#47 Summer Renaissance

#51 Heated

#53 Thique

#55 Move

#64 Pure/Honey

#69 America Has a Problem

#70 All Up in Your Mind

 

Y'all SWORE on your lives that she was over. Take this big fat L

 

[QueenBLadyG]

The BUMP

[Dekkan]

[Zaynsus]

[QueenBLadyG]

12 minutes ago, abeille said:

 

 

 

 

#1 Break My Soul

#13 Cuff It

#19 Alien Superstar

#22 Church Girl

#26 I'm That Girl

#27 Energy

#30 Cozy

#41 Plastic off the Sofa

#43 Virgo's Groove

#47 Summer Renaissance

#51 Heated

#53 Thique

#55 Move

#64 Pure/Honey

#69 America Has a Problem

#70 All Up in Your Mind

 

Y'all SWORE on your lives that she was over. Take this big fat L

 

The fact that she has 16% of the Hot 100 to her lonesome

[MrBeyonceFan]

WHEW!

[abeille]

@BadMonster96 Anything to say? Why'd you stop giving us daily updates on Beyoncé's performance across streaming services and charts?

 

[♛| Rex_Sove]

Good thing Break My Soul exists. It's currently at this number on the Hot 100:

:
 

[wehavetostan]

On 11/25/2021 at 6:33 AM, Aurora said:

i tried to tell y'all katy was following a beyonce-like career trajectory and y'all wouldn't listen

that was you? 
we need Katy’s BMS!

[ChrisTheLoner]

29 minutes ago, abeille said:

 

 

 

 

#1 Break My Soul

#13 Cuff It

#19 Alien Superstar

#22 Church Girl

#26 I'm That Girl

#27 Energy

#30 Cozy

#41 Plastic off the Sofa

#43 Virgo's Groove

#47 Summer Renaissance

#51 Heated

#53 Thique

#55 Move

#64 Pure/Honey

#69 America Has a Problem

#70 All Up in Your Mind

 

Y'all SWORE on your lives that she was over. Take this big fat L

 

The bump whew chile, DRAG THEM

 

[fentypark]

13 minutes ago, abeille said:

@BadMonster96 Anything to say? Why'd you stop giving us daily updates on Beyoncé's performance across streaming services and charts?