slw84 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 It appears the hive are coming in here trying to control the narrative. Bottom line is like many other flops, this song failed to chart and people are going to have their kiis. I'm trying to figure out when people lost interest even to get it one week on the chart...I feel as though the joint album with her husband after Lemonade was that moment because at least curiosity streams/sales were expected. At least the song is for a good project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissman Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Badgalbriel said: But I was told soundtracks were easier to become a hit, what happened, beyhive? When did the BeyHive, as a group, claim this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 OP is not surprising... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Her end goal is prolly to get an Oscar nom with this song, which she'll prolly get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissman Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) Let's not pretend as if Beyoncé did everything she could to make it a hit and it still didn't chart, nor that a soundtrack single not charting is some glaring flop. Everyone from Britney to Gaga to Katy to Taylor to Ariana to Nicki and more has had at least one soundtrack single not chart on the Billboard Hot 100, many of which had proper promotion and/or music videos. Edited November 24, 2021 by swissman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fememeist Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Beyonnaise said: Wow I bet Columbia will drop her over this! I’m afraid they will. They’re going to bring up BadMonster96’s thread as part of the reason for her contract termination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaegar Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 It's not a remix of a current hit song, so not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fememeist Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, JawBreaker said: Honestly it wasnt a good idea to release it now knowing Taylor and Adele were coming back to back. Ofc all the attention was going to be on them. Do you never think past the Hot 100/BB200 and that people just want to enjoy music or… ? Edited November 24, 2021 by fememeist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissman Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, JawBreaker said: Honestly it wasnt a good idea to release it now knowing Taylor and Adele were coming back to back. Ofc all the attention was going to be on them. This is true, but from all of Beyoncé's actions (or non-actions) related to the song, I doubt she cares about chart positions or minds if there isn't so much attention on it. If she had been worried about this, it wouldn't have been released at the same time, or she'd have made sure to promote it, release a video, perform it, get up on live and ask for attention or even...shocking, I know, feature it in an instagram feed post. Edited November 24, 2021 by swissman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fauxtography Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Dreajae said: And also... she didn't say a word about it. Its not really about them. If she doesn't want to promote or show her face at the movie premiere, what is the GP suppose to do? She didn't want it to chart. Period. glad to see that even when their fave has fallen from favorability, their fellow stans are melting down in their base, and their fave can’t even touch a bubbling under chart, the hive still projects a level of delusion leagues above the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) Meh, she's had more alarming underperformances in the past (Spitit/TheGift/EIL/Shinning)... Considering the base was barely here from this song, can't really act surprised. There will plenty of other none events from her, the only one worth discussing at this point will be B7 and im sure it'll do great album wise Edited November 24, 2021 by Otter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fauxtography Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 29 minutes ago, swissman said: When did the BeyHive, as a group, claim this? The hive has never been shy of throwing out “soundtrack” drags (before the gift flopped) and more recently, the hive filled the “side project” thread of a certain artist dragging her too for a bad debut. you receive the energy you give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CovalentBondage Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, swissman said: When did the BeyHive, as a group, claim this? this was literally one of their biggest narratives for ASIB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissman Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, CovalentBondage said: this was literally one of their biggest narratives for ASIB Perhaps it was, I still don't consider this a "Hive" group statement but one from certain people. In regards to A Star is Born's singles though, do you not see the difference between Shallow and Be Alive insofar as what they are in relation to the film? One is a new entry to an already iconic musical film series and is prominently featured as the pivotal moment in the protaganist's life/career. Here, the music and the film are directly linked. The other is a song made for the closing credits. It's not quite the same. All congratulations should be given to Shallow though, it's a bonafide hit. But sarcastically saying "I thought YOU ALL SAID..." just because a closing credits song isn't currently on the BB Hot 100 with no promo, video or even film release isn't really the drag it seems. Edited November 24, 2021 by swissman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 And for the Beyhive acting like you need to heavily promote a song for it chart... let it go babes She posted an IG story linking to the lyric vidro, that would be enough if there was interest in the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CovalentBondage Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, swissman said: Perhaps it was, I still don't consider this a "Hive" group statement but one from certain people. In regards to A Star is Born's singles though, do you not see the difference between Shallow and Be Alive insofar as what they are in relation to the film? One is a new entry to an already iconic musical film series and is prominently featured as the pivotal moment in the protaganist's life/career. Here, the music and the film are directly linked. The other is a song made for the closing credits. It's not quite the same. All congratulations should be given to Shallow though, it's a bonafide hit. But sarcastically saying "I thought YOU ALL SAID..." just because a closing credits song isn't currently on the BB Hot 100 with no promo, video or even film release isn't really the drag it seems. I don't disagree. I do not like generalizing fanbases either because it's only a handful of people on here who are really the culprits on all sides. I do agree with your comparsion of the two songs and what they offered differently. I think most people are drawing comparisons because a lot of people on here really undermined what Gaga did with ASIB and the music from the movie. Sort of brushing it off as anyone could do that and anyone can get a hit with award buzz which is far from the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissman Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 But it's nice to see that ATRL hasn't changed. Old bitterness from previous slights remain stronger than ever. The chance to deride someone's fave because one of their fans said something you didn't like does not go untaken. All importance is put on even the smallest of career moves. And the cycle continues. And everyone stays mad at each other's faves for no reason other than feeling smug and better than the other. Every success is someone else's failure. Every failure is someone else's success. But why can't it just be that sometimes you succeed and sometimes you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissman Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Just now, CovalentBondage said: I don't disagree. I do not like generalizing fanbases either because it's only a handful of people on here who are really the culprits on all sides. I do agree with your comparsion of the two songs and what they offered differently. I think most people are drawing comparisons because a lot of people on here really undermined what Gaga did with ASIB and the music from the movie. Sort of brushing it off as anyone could do that and anyone can get a hit with award buzz which is far from the case. I think Gaga deserves more than she is credited for about Shallow's success. I hope me outlining the advantages Shallow had to become a hit doesn't take away from Gaga's role in it too. She not only had to write/perform a good song, but she had to act it well in the film if it were to be taken seriously. She also had to be, overall, good in the film for the film to be critically and commercially successful. If she hadn't done any of these things so well, it couldn't have been such the hit film it was, and less and less people would have been introduced to the song, which inevitably expanded past her own fanbase to the GP and made it the classic it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CovalentBondage Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, swissman said: But it's nice to see that ATRL hasn't changed. Old bitterness from previous slights remain stronger than ever. The chance to deride someone's fave because one of their fans said something you didn't like does not go untaken. All importance is put on even the smallest of career moves. And the cycle continues. And everyone stays mad at each other's faves for no reason other than feeling smug and better than the other. Every success is someone else's failure. Every failure is someone else's success. But why can't it just be that sometimes you succeed and sometimes you don't. It's a toxic cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Stratus Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, romonster said: Oh no! We were told that getting success and hits from soundtracks was easy and a given, so this is very shocking indeed. This isn’t just not a hit - and I could also understand it not charting as per OP, but this is in fact… a colossal bomb Spotify 23/11 ’Be Alive’ 93k 93k already and the film is being screened in cinemas daily Edited November 24, 2021 by Mr. Stratus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGKC Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 43 minutes ago, feuxtography said: glad to see that even when their fave has fallen from favorability, their fellow stans are melting down in their base, and their fave can’t even touch a bubbling under chart, the hive still projects a level of delusion leagues above the rest. Imagine thinking Bey is making it a priority to get this song to chart tho lol. She has a few soundtracks that are still not available on any streaming platforms to this day. Sis is more focused on her next Ivy Park rollout and it’s really not even delusional to assume any of it if you watched all of her sabotaging career moves since releasing an album exclusively to a 3rd tier streaming service. I do hope she’s at least willing to do a live performance of the song to give it justice as opposed to paying it complete dust tho. She hasn’t performed anything in almost 2 years now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rihannabiggestfan Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Armani? said: OP is not surprising... Yeah, the obsession is real - I had to laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedor Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Haters are more worried about Be Alive chart performance than Hive themselves (or Beyonce). No sparkle at all. Love my base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rihannaswag Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 4 hours ago, RussianRoulette said: The last time I heard from her was when she lost AOTY to Adele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slw84 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Comedor said: Haters are more worried about Be Alive chart performance than Hive themselves (or Beyonce). No sparkle at all. Love my base. Alot of comments in here coming from the Hive, though. How many times must one say I'm unbothered? The song is for a great project and maybe if it wins an Oscar it'll get buzz, sales and chart on the hot 100. Beyonce's legacy remains in tact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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