Mystic Boy Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Dreajae said: Following Gaga daily stan accounts doesn't change those reviews honey. And prove me wrong that she didn't take Bey's leftovers? After insisting for over a decade that Beyoncé needed Telephone as a career boost, here sis comes with A Star is Born and Coachella after Joanne flopped. Only for Chromatica to fail to reach the peaks and chart run of Lemonade. It very much sounds like Gaga needed A Star is Born to have somewhat of a foothold in this current climate of music. That is the truth. Hive didn't make the likes of Katy Perry recently pass Gaga in monthly Spotify listeners. Hive isn't calling out Gaga riding up Britneys ass after she talked her **** a decade ago. Your fave is on the outs with so many pop girl fans and yet a 25 year vet like Beyonce and her fans are the problem? Lol The lies Critics are highlighting her incredible performance and considers her as the saving grace of the movie, you tried it Oh and that part about where would she be without ASIB is so dumb It's like saying where would Beyoncé be without ST or Madonna without ROL or even Britney without Circus ...It's part of their career OT: The song is bad and uninspired, she can do way better.
Dreajae Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mystic Boy said: The lies Critics are highlighting her incredible performance and considers her as the saving grace of the movie, you tried it Oh and that part about where would she be without ASIB is so dumb It's like saying where would Beyoncé be without ST or Madonna without ROL or even Britney without Circus ...It's part of their career OT: The song is bad and uninspired, she can do way better. Well you could stand to say that about GaGas studio albums from the last 10 years. A soundtrack shouldn't make up the bulk of your relevance which proves my point. You keep clinging to that soundtrack while Beyonce continues on in her 25 year career. There's nothing else to say.
Mystic Boy Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, Dreajae said: A soundtrack shouldn't make up the bulk of your relevance which proves my point. Tell that to Whitney, The Bee Gees and Prince Stop embarrassing yourself sis
swissman Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, 808s said: Shut up you were one of the worst people here back in the days OT Not surprised, I couldn’t even finish the song altho I was yearning a new Bey bio! lol, you must be remembering wrong. I'm not shy to throw out a negative opinion, but am never needlessly rude nor endlessly bitter towards others' faves. You can look at my history if you'd like. You'll see I mostly talk about Beyoncé, and only compare others when threads ask for such conversation. Am I argumentative, sure. Do I like a good pop debate? Absolutely. As for what I was describing, that was never me. I never go out of my way to say something offensive about a popstar just because I have an issue with their base. I don't belittle them for my own enjoyment. Maybe I'm not remembering some instances, but I know to say I was "one of the worst" in relation to what I described in your quoted comment is a huge untruth. I've actually post and complained about ATRL's ways many, many times since I joined in 2012. Your profile says you joined in 2017 which that is about the time I started to post less and less until it was none at all for some years. I'm not sure where you're getting this from but okay. Edited November 25, 2021 by swissman
swissman Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Badgalbriel said: Couple years ago, babe. I still remember the Avis. You guys were basically harassing Gaga on a daily basis. Remember the "she's only successful with this because she's taking Beyoncé's left overs" etc? Yep, with that also came the argument that soundtracks are easy hits because we just had Frozen, 007,etc just a couple of years prior. So I'm kinda shocked with the narrativa change There definitely was Hive being messy towards Gaga, that can't be denied, but it was not "THE HIVE". Thinking this way only extends needless rivalries that have no link to real life. Using people's faves as an icon to deride in order to get back at them is petty and childish. That is my point. It's like no one wants to be the bigger person. I'm sure those people who were saying a soundtrack hit was so easy to get were only saying that because of a perceived slight they felt "The Monsters" gave them. It's a cycle. If you're shocked at the narrative change just read between the lines about what people are saying here and now, not what you remember people saying. A bond theme, a song from a hit musical used in a pivotal and iconic part of the film is not the same as a song meant to soundtrack the end credits. Or, you might just consider that yes people are flawed and hypocritical just as every fanbase (if we want to blame the entirety) is time and time and time again. Edited November 25, 2021 by swissman
swissman Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 18 hours ago, feuxtography said: I mean, I understand if this isn't on her promo schedule and expectations logically shouldn't be high. But an underperformance is an underperformance, and pivoting the narrative is kind of moot on a forum that applies no critical thinking to these things anyways. I think their point was more like, Beyoncé clearly isn't doing a thing to suggest the song is aimed at being at hit, so why are we acting like its underperformance is worthy of the hoopla it's been given on these many pages? You mention the lack of critical thinking on ATRL, but that doesn't mean a base can't or shouldn't apply critical thinking in the face of a lot of immaturity.
Dreajae Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, swissman said: There definitely was Hive being messy towards Gaga, that can't be denied, but it was not "THE HIVE". Thinking this way only extends needless rivalries that have no link to real life. Using people's faves as an icon to deride in order to get back at them is petty and childish. That is my point. It's like no one wants to be the bigger person. I'm sure those people who were saying a soundtrack hit was so easy to get were only saying that because of a perceived slight they felt "The Monsters" gave them. It's a cycle. If you're shocked at the narrative change just read between the lines about what people are saying here and now, not what you remember people saying. A bond theme, a song from a hit musical used in a pivotal and iconic part of the film is not the same as a song meant to soundtrack the end credits. Or, you might just consider that yes people are flawed and hypocritical just every fanbase (if we want to blame the entirety) is time and time and time again. You don't even owe them that much grace. If they're so concerned about the past, they can see the reciepts of their fandom saying Beyonce owes their fave from a 2009 collab and the 4 draggings in 2011. The war cries are only a thing because Beyonce did better than the majority of the late 2000-2010s pop girls and that soundtrack is their faves only saving grace from total obscurity. But of course, it has to go to their head and they dont know when to quit.
swissman Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dreajae said: You don't even owe them that much grace. If they're so concerned about the past, they can see the reciepts of their fandom saying Beyonce owes their fave from a 2009 collab and the 4 draggings in 2011. The war cries are only a thing because Beyonce did better than the majority of the late 2000-2010s pop girls and that soundtrack is their faves only saving grace from total obscurity. But of course, it has to go to their head and they dont know when to quit. I wouldn't go that far from Gaga. Chromatica proved she still had the pop potential in her, with a #1 hit and a #1 album. I just think we should all stop comparing 1-to-1 and start looking at artists as individuals, not just in relation to one another.
fauxtography Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 57 minutes ago, Dreajae said: You don't even owe them that much grace. If they're so concerned about the past, they can see the reciepts of their fandom saying Beyonce owes their fave from a 2009 collab and the 4 draggings in 2011. The war cries are only a thing because Beyonce did better than the majority of the late 2000-2010s pop girls and that soundtrack is their faves only saving grace from total obscurity. But of course, it has to go to their head and they dont know when to quit. And this is why this will continue forever. Hive has no accountability for the years of trashing every single artist in the name of Beyoncé. Now she can’t even CHART
808s Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, swissman said: lol, you must be remembering wrong. I'm not shy to throw out a negative opinion, but am never needlessly rude nor endlessly bitter towards others' faves. You can look at my history if you'd like. You'll see I mostly talk about Beyoncé, and only compare others when threads ask for such conversation. Am I argumentative, sure. Do I like a good pop debate? Absolutely. As for what I was describing, that was never me. I never go out of my way to say something offensive about a popstar just because I have an issue with their base. I don't belittle them for my own enjoyment. Maybe I'm not remembering some instances, but I know to say I was "one of the worst" in relation to what I described in your quoted comment is a huge untruth. I've actually post and complained about ATRL's ways many, many times since I joined in 2012. Your profile says you joined in 2017 which that is about the time I started to post less and less until it was none at all for some years. I'm not sure where you're getting this from but okay. I lurked here since 2012, You were one of the biggest Rihanna hater
swissman Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 3 hours ago, 808s said: I lurked here since 2012, You were one of the biggest Rihanna hater I've never been a Rihanna hater. I've been critical, sure, but being critical is not being hateful. And I've never hated nor went out of my way to demean Rihanna.
808s Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, swissman said: I've never been a Rihanna hater. I've been critical, sure, but being critical is not being hateful. And I've never hated nor went out of my way to demean Rihanna. You sure sis? I think I remember your username pretty good. No hard feelings tho
swissman Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, 808s said: You sure sis? I think I remember your username pretty good. No hard feelings tho Listen I'm sure I said something negative about everyone's fave at one point, but I am sure that I never ever did so from the position of hating. I'm open to the fact that it might be perceived differently by people who are not me, don't know what I meant, or just felt I was being too harsh or that maybe at times I was in fact doing that. However, I know for a fact I can not be deemed "one of the worst" or even part of that group as it relates to the ATRL-isms I mentioned in the original post. If I slipped up and said something hateful, that's totally on me but I know that is not the way I've been overall on ATRL. I do always try to look at things with a fair perspective, however biased I may be towards Beyoncé. That being said, I do make it a point to not post negatively about other people's faves just to bring Beyoncé's credit up, unless its to point out hypocrisy such someone saying "Beyoncé can't sell x amount of albums" in a poll about album-sellers to which I might outline how all the other options also haven't sold "x" amount of albums either. No hard feelings, yes. Edited November 26, 2021 by swissman
PlERRE Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 ATRL told me that having a hit song from a soundtrack was easy specially when it's an original song. I guess not everybody can have that.
FAN Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 Not surprising, her soundtracks/“side projects” have been flopping for years.
Breathe On Moi Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 On 11/24/2021 at 10:06 AM, Shinning said: She's over Blue Ivy will have to go to public school
Soda Pop Queen Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) After viewing the film, the song plays perfectly over the end credits. Seriously, actually watch King Richard! Edited November 26, 2021 by Soda Pop Queen
EnigmaticAndroid Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 6:33 AM, Aurora said: i tried to tell y'all katy was following a beyonce-like career trajectory and y'all wouldn't listen
suburbannature Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 8:03 AM, RideOrDie said: did i just read gaga's performance is panned in HoG when she has the most acclaimed performance of the year with Kristen? imagine flat out lying The absolute delusion in this post.
Johnny Jacobs Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 the fact that its a soundtrack doesnt help the fact it didnt even chart.. B7 is a hit pop album thats coming to end everyone i can feel it tho
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