Communion Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, TtaraHae said: And when did that user claim otherwise? Do you enjoy religiously spinning people’s posts into things that they never said at all whatsoever?   There’s nothing to “imagine” here. They pointed out the information that this source has provided, which states that Taylor was more consumed than Ariana in 2018 and was barely outstreamed by Ariana despite Ariana having 4 times the single releases that Taylor did and despite Ariana having a full era roll-out in the relevant year that was tracked. Is something wrong with you?  If an album’s expected shelf life is one year, then an album out in November 2017 will spend 80%+ of its shelf life in 2018.  Taylor’s album was out at the tail-end of 2017, not some early 2017 that got a throwaway final single in 2018. Again, not to mention her entire catalog streams newly added unless the biggest superstar in the world’s catalog is only going to have a few months of shelf life.  The inner conflict to paint Taylor out as the biggest star in the world but then make it out to be ridiculous to expect the biggest star in the world’s newest album would keep getting streams in its third month or that such an iconic catalog would keep getting streams after a month. Pick a narrative! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love100 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Coming for 2million operino week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Coklek92 said: But Ariana got more exposure on Spotify playlists Ariana’s already bigger on Spotify. Why wouldn’t Spotify promote the biggest female artist on its platform? TUN shattered all of Taylor’s records without any playlist support. Why wouldn’t Spotify want to then playlist her as much as possible?  Y’all backing yourselves into a corner and having to use an argument that boils down to chicken or the egg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash12345 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Communion said: Except it was already pointed out a song released in November 2017 doesn’t magically stop getting streams on January 1st, 2018.  Reputation was on streaming services for twelve out of twelve months in 2018. Sweetener was on streaming services for three out of twelve months.  Is twelve bigger than three? Yes or no? Facts like measurements of time do not care about your feelings. I can’t tell if you’re being serious. Like do you honestly believe albums keep churning out crazy numbers forever. Rep peaked in 2017 and was released in 2017. Hence why her 2017 consumption numbers destroy her 2018 numbers. She was the 4th most consumed artist in 2017, #1 female and the only female in the top 20.  She is also the #1 female in 2018.  We we love a legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Ash12345 said: I can’t tell if you’re being serious. Like do you honestly believe albums keep churning out crazy numbers forever. “Forever” is three months out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloröx Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Communion said: Ariana’s already bigger on Spotify. Why wouldn’t Spotify promote the biggest female artist on its platform? TUN shattered all of Taylor’s records without any playlist support. Why wouldn’t Spotify want to then playlist her as much as possible?  Y’all backing yourselves into a corner and having to use an argument that boils down to chicken or the egg. All data about Spotify playlist is there so no matter how hard you try to deny it, the truth is still the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash12345 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Communion said: “Forever” is three months out?  Taylor was literally the most consumed female in 2017 and the only one in the top 20 despite having an album released in November.  Whilst ariana’s album that came out the year before and had one single in 2017 didn’t land her on the list at all. Why?  seeing as you seem convinced that albums are consistent for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Ash12345 said:  Taylor was literally the most consumed female in 2017 and the only one in the top 20 despite having an album released in November.  Whilst ariana’s album that came out the year before and had one single in 2017 didn’t land her on the list at all. Why?  seeing as you seem convinced that albums are consistent for years. Where did anyone claim Ariana had strong consumption? We’re wondering why you guys can’t be happy with Taylor being so consumed that you have to make excuses for her streaming shortcomings by making up conspiracies and lies about Ariana.  Please answer my question - is it ridiculous to expect reputation to still be streamed three months in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash12345 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Communion said: Where did anyone claim Ariana had strong consumption? We’re wondering why you guys can’t be happy with Taylor being so consumed that you have to make excuses for her streaming shortcomings by making up conspiracies and lies about Ariana.  Please answer my question - is it ridiculous to expect reputation to still be streamed three months in? Of course not. And it was streamed.  But its ridiculous to expect it to be streamed as much as new albums yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Coklek92 said: All data about Spotify playlist is there so no matter how hard you try to deny it, the truth is still the truth Like how the truth is the truth that Ariana is the most streamed female despite how bigger Taylor’s success supposedly is.  The temper tantrums all because she can’t have the crown for sales, overall consumption, AND streaming and so something must be afoot behind the scenes. Crying like a bad child who wants a pony.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloröx Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Communion said: Ariana’s already bigger on Spotify. Why wouldn’t Spotify promote the biggest female artist on its platform? TUN shattered all of Taylor’s records without any playlist support. Why wouldn’t Spotify want to then playlist her as much as possible?  Y’all backing yourselves into a corner and having to use an argument that boils down to chicken or the egg. Just letting you know :  Ariana Grande: 521.294 million Dua Lipa: 426.012 million Rihanna: 311.400 million Selena Gomez: 278.786 million Halsey: 254.756 million Lady Gaga: 235.751 million Taylor Swift: 156.747 million  You can see the gap of playlist reach between Ariana and Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TtaraHae Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Communion said: snipped I've glad we've acknowledged and accepted the fact that Taylor was more consumed than Ariana in the year where Ariana rolled out an entire era (and even began roll out for a follow-up era) in every single metric sans streaming, where Ariana just only slightly beat out Taylor despite having triple the playlist audience on Spotify and quadruple the single releases (and even then, Taylor still wins on Apple Music and Youtube - only being beaten on Spotify, go figure!)  Taylor doing that with just one single release and despite her album and era rollout taking place/peaking in the previous year.  OT: Taylor winner    Edited January 7, 2019 by TtaraHae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ash12345 said: Of course not. And it was streamed.  But its ridiculous to expect it to be streamed as much as new albums yes. And yet the majority of songs on the year-end charts are always songs released in the earlier half of the year. Sounds like the only one ridiculous here is you suggesting that it’s an underperformance for a newer album to be able to outstream an older album when, by reason, the album out longer for more of the calendar year should have more streams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloröx Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Communion said: Like how the truth is the truth that Ariana is the most streamed female despite how bigger Taylor’s success supposedly is.  The temper tantrums all because she can’t have the crown for sales, overall consumption, AND streaming and so something must be afoot behind the scenes. Crying like a bad child who wants a pony.  The temper tantrum? Chill dude no one is pressed here  We all highlighting that Ariana gets huge advantage from Spotify Playlist but I don't know why you refuse to accept it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Coklek92 said: Just letting you know :  Ariana Grande: 521.294 million Dua Lipa: 426.012 million Rihanna: 311.400 million Selena Gomez: 278.786 million Halsey: 254.756 million Lady Gaga: 235.751 million Taylor Swift: 156.747 million  You can see the gap of playlist reach between Ariana and Taylor All this is showing me is that Taylor isn’t strong enough on Spotify to land on playlists.  Maybe you are all right and her catalog streams are underperforming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TtaraHae Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Coklek92 said: The temper tantrum? Chill dude no one is pressed here  We all highlighting that Ariana gets huge advantage from Spotify Playlist but I don't know why you refuse to accept it? The fact it keeps accusing everyone of being angry when it's the only one fuming with essays in here over Spotify stats. You can see the fumes emanating through the screen that their fave just simply lost despite having all the cards in her favor to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash12345 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Communion said: And yet the majority of songs on the year-end charts are always songs released in the earlier half of the year. Sounds like the only one ridiculous here is you suggesting that it’s an underperformance for a newer album to be able to outstream an older album when, by reason, the album out longer for more of the calendar year should have more streams. You are literally always lying. Almost every album on the most consumed albums list came out in 2018. And a bunch came out in the 2nd half. Whilst like only 3 albums came out before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Wait at that Spotify “data” just being that Taylor stan going through and adding up info from SpotOnTrack. They’re the same person who was asking me to get them SK data on Beyoncé.  We’re now using imaginary tallies to smear artists made by stans who themselces are doing guesswork. Ariana, her ****ing power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloröx Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Communion said: All this is showing me is that Taylor isn’t strong enough on Spotify to land on playlists.  Maybe you are all right and her catalog streams are underperforming. Not really, we all knew that Spotify playlist can easily be manipulated. I mean we all saw the madness during Scorpion's release week. The payola was too obvious.  We all Swifties already knew that Spotify hate her judging from the lacking of playlists but honestly we surprised by the small gap of her and Ariana's streams despite the strong disadvantages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ash12345 said: You are literally always lying. Almost every album on the most consumed albums list came out in 2018. And a bunch came out in the 2nd half. Whilst like only 3 albums came out before that. Sis, you need to read clearer. Please. I’m talking about songs and streams and you’re mumbling over consumption still. Get it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Coklek92 said: We all Swifties already knew that Spotify hate her And here we have more conspiracies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuelve88 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 14 hours ago, Grimes said: White supremacy reigns in the US. Don't americans call her an Aryan Goddess? Taylor is Latina tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloröx Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Communion said: Wait at that Spotify “data” just being that Taylor stan going through and adding up info from SpotOnTrack. They’re the same person who was asking me to get them SK data on Beyoncé.  We’re now using imaginary tallies to smear artists made by stans who themselces are doing guesswork. Ariana, her ****ing power. If you don't believe then, why don't you make your own calculation? Sorry we Swifties don't have time to make fake and false data. We are waiting for your data. All the sources are there, just make your time and calculate it honey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Coklek92 said: If you don't believe then, why don't you make your own calculation? Sorry we Swifties don't have time to make fake and false data. We are waiting for your data. All the sources are there, just make your time and calculate it honey Not the argument essentially being “it doesn’t matter that Ariana & Drake are popular, they’re only popular because they’re playlisted, they’re not playlisted cause they’re popular. Oh! And Spotify is trying to destroy Taylor!!”  It’s Alex Jones level of dystopian at this point. The way y’all can’t imagine r&b music simply being naturally popular (despite Taylor trying to imitate it on Reputation). But yes. Despite getting fewer streams, sweet innocent wholesome Taylor overcame all those ungodly rappers and r&b-pop singers and Spotify’s evil plan to undermine her and that’s why any figures that have her not #1 on streaming aren’t credible! Show those Swift haters!  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloröx Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, TtaraHae said: The fact it keeps accusing everyone of being angry when it's the only one fuming with essays in here over Spotify stats. You can see the fumes emanating through the screen that their fave just simply lost despite having all the cards in her favor to win. The good dude used to be amazing in the Lounge thread but suddenly his intelligence drop significantly in the Chart section. I feel sorry for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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