Mark Rih Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 42 minutes ago, levi_valvi said: i sure hope no one is using mobile data loading this page @Thuggin I lowkey hate you (but yeah stomp on those OAH’s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levi_valvi Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 uhm Barbie things literally showed us what it looks like when people turn in to a song just for the name dropping: a huge surge that doesn't last long. TUN is increasing by the day so yeah, it's obviously not the same case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actorguy21 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 hours ago, nick4bty said: Pretty much this. Her entire life has been promo for this song. There’s obviously a reason why they rush released it in the middle of an era You guys are actually sad. You all criticize artists for not being personal enough or not having authenticity then you criticize them for being too personal. I personally don't mind this because it makes the music better the more personal it is. You guys are obviously bitter. Same thing happened with Bey and lemonade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick4bty Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, Actorguy21 said: You guys are actually sad. You all criticize artists for not being personal enough or not having authenticity then you criticize them for being too personal. I personally don't mind this because it makes the music better the more personal it is. You guys are obviously bitter. Same thing happened with Bey and lemonade. There's nothing bitter about what I said? Why are Ari fans so sensitive lately It's obvious this was calculated, I'm just stating the obvious. The song is personal, but let's not act like she made it for art. She made it and released it to get a #1. That's all I'm saying. Congrats to her on her first #1, after all this time she deserves it more than anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Star Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 dd the receipts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allnight Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, nick4bty said: There's nothing bitter about what I said? Why are Ari fans so sensitive lately It's obvious this was calculated, I'm just stating the obvious. The song is personal, but let's not act like she made it for art. She made it and released it to get a #1. That's all I'm saying. Congrats to her on her first #1, after all this time she deserves it more than anyone yes that's why she released it without announcing it beforehand in the middle of the tracking week with no discount, video, big playlist marketing, radio adds, or planned performances (the ellen one was only booked after scooter saw the public's reaction). do you realize how stupid you sound? compare this to NTLTC rollout and you'll see that's her team actually trying to get a #1. furthermore, if she released this with that goal she wouldnt have released it when she was already promoting two other singles on radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I'm sorry but I find it extremely funny and ironic that this fandom is pulling tweets as a receipt as to how the song is good etc yet this is the exact same fanbase that had meltdowns saying the industry is RUINED when rap songs with memes attached to them go #1. The "rain drop drop top" meme, black Beatles mannequin challenge, the "Kiki do you love me" etc were all lashed by pop Stans on atrl (mostly arianators), who said these songs were jokes and that the tweets were not indicative of true consumption or liking for the song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandal Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, nick4bty said: There's nothing bitter about what I said? Why are Ari fans so sensitive lately It's obvious this was calculated, I'm just stating the obvious. The song is personal, but let's not act like she made it for art. She made it and released it to get a #1. That's all I'm saying. Congrats to her on her first #1, after all this time she deserves it more than anyone and you have literally 0 legs to stand on when making this claim. only the first verse which has not been mentioned once in the DOZENS of viral tweets posted and not posted in this thread. thank u, next. Edited November 9, 2018 by Scandal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandal Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Isaiah said: I'm sorry but I find it extremely funny and ironic that this fandom is pulling tweets as a receipt as to how the song is good etc yet this is the exact same fanbase that had meltdowns saying the industry is RUINED when rap songs with memes attached to them go #1. The "rain drop drop top" meme, black Beatles mannequin challenge, the "Kiki do you love me" etc were all lashed by pop Stans on atrl (mostly arianators), who said these songs were jokes and that the tweets were not indicative of true consumption or liking for the song literally nobody from our base said that (and if they did, it was probably once from one or two people). especially when ariana gets the most viral tweets out of any pop girl (maybe tied with rihanna). Edited November 9, 2018 by Scandal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Oxygen Posted November 9, 2018 ATRL Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2018 My phone kept crashing due to the receipts in the last page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Oxygen Posted November 9, 2018 ATRL Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Isaiah said: I'm sorry but I find it extremely funny and ironic that this fandom is pulling tweets as a receipt as to how the song is good etc yet this is the exact same fanbase that had meltdowns saying the industry is RUINED when rap songs with memes attached to them go #1. The "rain drop drop top" meme, black Beatles mannequin challenge, the "Kiki do you love me" etc were all lashed by pop Stans on atrl (mostly arianators), who said these songs were jokes and that the tweets were not indicative of true consumption or liking for the song What is this deluded fantasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glo Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, nick4bty said: There's nothing bitter about what I said? Why are Ari fans so sensitive lately It's obvious this was calculated, I'm just stating the obvious. The song is personal, but let's not act like she made it for art. She made it and released it to get a #1. That's all I'm saying. Congrats to her on her first #1, after all this time she deserves it more than anyone With NTLTC they were strategizing to get a #1 but this is completely different. She's been talking to fans on Twitter about how she's sick of eras and wants to release music as she makes it so that it's "fresh" when we hear it and that's exactly what she did by spontaneously releasing this. And this song is a part of a project she made in like a month with her friends after everything that's happened. Her team is smart, they would've released it with a full week, music video, radio deal, and not in the middle of another single's run if they were trying to get a #1. I guess I understand thinking it was calculated because of how insanely well it's doing and if you don't really keep up with Ariana, but pretty sure TUN going #1 is a surprise to everyone including her and her label Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allnight Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ChartsFan said: So the day of tweets and dropping it half an hour before SNL and reported/announced apete sketch on them, was just a coincidence-e... the tweet was out of anger because of the joke pete made and it was up for less than 15 minutes. if it was part of a "promo plan" she wouldve just left it up for more exposure, but she didnt, because it was a thing of the moment and she realized later it was dumb and deleted. why is it so hard for yall to believe that artists are actual human beings with...feelings? why does every little thing they do have to be part of some calculated plan to do bigger numbers? Edited November 9, 2018 by allnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandal Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, ChartsFan said: So the day of tweets and dropping it half an hour before SNL and reported/announced apete sketch on them, was just a coincidence-e... maybe because she and pete had a falling out, she happened to release a song before SNL so that she could control the narrative on her breakup. that doesn't mean she purposely planned it all out to become a mega smash, the events leading up to the moment just seemed to align in a way for this to smash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Fey Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 43 minutes ago, Oxygen said: What is this deluded fantasy Right. Why would Ariana stans in particular even be so against songs becoming viral memes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick4bty Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 41 minutes ago, Glo said: With NTLTC they were strategizing to get a #1 but this is completely different. She's been talking to fans on Twitter about how she's sick of eras and wants to release music as she makes it so that it's "fresh" when we hear it and that's exactly what she did by spontaneously releasing this. And this song is a part of a project she made in like a month with her friends after everything that's happened. Her team is smart, they would've released it with a full week, music video, radio deal, and not in the middle of another single's run if they were trying to get a #1. I guess I understand thinking it was calculated because of how insanely well it's doing and if you don't really keep up with Ariana, but pretty sure TUN going #1 is a surprise to everyone including her and her label I’m not disagreeing with you, but I guess i meant a deeper kind of calculation, one that would transcend chart manipulation. And it obviously worked. Though they definitely were taking advantage of the weak chart. M5 likely would have fallen next week anyway, and a Saturday release is pretty in line with other surprise release strategies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levi_valvi Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, nick4bty said: I’m not disagreeing with you, but I guess i meant a deeper kind of calculation, one that would transcend chart manipulation. And it obviously worked. Though they definitely were taking advantage of the weak chart. M5 likely would have fallen next week anyway, and a Saturday release is pretty in line with other surprise release strategies What kind of wizardry do you think went into this song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptique Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 On 11/6/2018 at 4:12 PM, Cryptique said: I'm a Ty,N hater but damn... at this rate it'll debut atop H100... ~40M streams ~50k sales That alone is enough to snatch top1.. plus her crazy radio support.. a no.1 on lock congrats to her.. bookmark me On 11/6/2018 at 7:34 PM, Mattyboy said: Nah it’s not going #1. Top 3 for sure. It’s missing 2 days of tracking and sales won’t be that high. o WOW.. maybe i snappedT.. @Mattyboy thoughts? Ariana Grande Vying for First No. 1 on Next Week's Billboard Hot 100 | Billboard News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glo Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 18 minutes ago, ChartsFan said: Her team is smart. Scooter is smart, they got much more publicity and tracking releasing it just before SNL than a standard release on a Friday, besides, I highly doubt she finished the song at 1130 pm in the studio on a Saturday night. Not many people were even talking about the timing and the correlation is a bit of a reach anyway since it wasn't even a diss to Pete. Releasing it without 2 days of tracking was very risky and there was no guarantee it would even hit top 10 by doing that. It easily could've ruined her streak of lead singles debuting top 10 but it overperformed (by a lot) and I highly doubt that was because of releasing it before SNL, which I'm not even sure most people know happened I mean if you think her team is that smart that they expected it to pull the numbers it's pulling when she's never seen streams this large in her career, I guess they were right. I just think it's extremely unlikely they'd take that risk if their goal was to hit #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Cryptique said: o WOW.. maybe i snappedT.. @Mattyboy thoughts? Ariana Grande Vying for First No. 1 on Next Week's Billboard Hot 100 | Billboard News inb4 "they always make those speculative articles for clicks" and "FEFE deserved it " Edited November 9, 2018 by ClashAndBurn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Thank You Next is one of the most exciting #1s of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob.23 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Despacito could have really done 20 weeks at #1 in this climate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popboi. Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Jacob.23 said: Despacito could have really done 20 weeks at #1 in this climate Despacito could’ve done 20 weeks in its own climate if Taylor didn’t shake it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TayDine1989 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 44 minutes ago, ChartsFan said: Despacito was still charting when LWYMMD was sent recurrent for having 20 weeks and not being top fifty, so what's your point? that is definitely what they are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TayDine1989 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, TayDine1989 said: so what's your point? that is definitely what they are talking about. *that is not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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