Cloröx Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Henstridge said: Thanks for contributing your much needed sarcasm to this thread Taylor got 5 #1s on pop during 1989 era so there's no surprise that Look can do the same
Émotif Fool Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 Most major label songs get a final big push if they are close to the summit+ she’s doing jingle ball shows, which iheart stations repay with support Can she just get the #1 on pop radio so this song can die and we get single #2?
Mediabase Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 18 minutes ago, opruh said: LWYMMD is a pop perfection, support from only pop format will be enough to push it to number one on the overall airplay chart. No it is not enough sweetie. Stop trying. Artificial success on just ONE format is not enough to chart very high on the Overall Airplay Chart. The most you can get from POP is 110million.
Cloröx Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Henstridge said: Dude, it's a troll, why are you feeding him Why did you pressed so much tho?
opruh Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 With these massive radio updates, the only noble and right thing to do is to admit that LWYMMD is mega smash hit.
Emperor Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 nnn idk why Taylor team payola only pop , guess they don't care about the rest
Mr. Adele Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) This thread is a mess, can we delete it and start again? OT: Can’t wait to see 1-800 on #1 Edited October 11, 2017 by Mr. Adele
QueenofCopyPaste Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 1 hour ago, opruh said: LWYMMD is a pop perfection, support from only pop format will be enough to push it to number one on the overall airplay chart. Umm no.
Cap10Planet Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) That is the most obvious example of payola I have seen. What a ****ing cackle. Please don't @ with a defense for this ****. Edited October 11, 2017 by Cap10Planet
Eóghan Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 Did y'all see Liam (#1) and Niall's (#3) freefall? -440 spins and -377 spins. I'm sorry but Taylor's explosion is completely organic, it was HER TURN. She was stuck in the top 5 forever waiting for the twink boys to peak. Y'all can call this payola all you want but it is ORGANIC. During Taylor's entire run on Pop, she only got 3 days of negative spins: the 2nd of October, the 3rd and the 4th. And the loss in spins was barely noticeable, between -20 and -60 spins. If you cumulate all of Liam' negative spin days in Pop, he's well above 15 days. The song was never dead, very much alive, just stuck between songs and waiting to be put on power rotation once the other song above her peaks.
QueenofCopyPaste Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Eóghan said: Did y'all see Liam (#1) and Niall's (#3) freefall? -440 spins and -377 spins. I'm sorry but Taylor's explosion is completely organic, it was HER TURN. She was stuck in the top 5 forever waiting for the twink boys to peak. Y'all can call this payola all you want but it is ORGANIC. During Taylor's entire run on Pop, she only got 3 days of negative spins: the 2nd of October, the 3rd and the 4th. And the loss in spins was barely noticeable, between -20 and -60 spins. If you cumulate all of Liam' negative spin days in Pop, he's well above 15 days. The song was never dead, very much alive, just stuck between songs and waiting to be put on power rotation once the other song above her peaks. But why not in AC, HAC & Rhythmic as well? Why they keep on Falling? Why it stalled in Canada's Pop radio and didnt even entered top 5
Icarus Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Eóghan said: Did y'all see Liam (#1) and Niall's (#3) freefall? -440 spins and -377 spins. I'm sorry but Taylor's explosion is completely organic, it was HER TURN. She was stuck in the top 5 forever waiting for the twink boys to peak. Y'all can call this payola all you want but it is ORGANIC. During Taylor's entire run on Pop, she only got 3 days of negative spins: the 2nd of October, the 3rd and the 4th. And the loss in spins was barely noticeable, between -20 and -60 spins. If you cumulate all of Liam' negative spin days in Pop, he's well above 15 days. The song was never dead, very much alive, just stuck between songs and waiting to be put on power rotation once the other song above her peaks. All this tea
WonderstruckFR Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) We don't have the callout scores so you don't know anything. The callout scores can be very negative on HAC/AC and not so bad on POP. Why they did not use payola for HAC and Rhythmic stations also then?? You are pressed as **** while Taylor is collecting her #1s without doing anything. + she has been announced doing iHeart radio events, so that would make sense they play her more for this. Anyway, only the result matters, and she'll be #1 in 3 days, as she deserves. Edited October 11, 2017 by WonderstruckFR
QueenofCopyPaste Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 1 minute ago, WonderstruckFR said: We don't have the callout scores so you don't know anything. Its 3rd lowest on HAC
WonderstruckFR Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 Just now, ATRL's WP Magnet said: Its 3rd lowest on HAC That's why it's struggling on HAC radio for a while then, and that's absolutely not surprising. Do you have the POP callout scores to prove your point?
Eóghan Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, ATRL's WP Magnet said: But why not in AC, HAC & Rhythmic as well? Why they keep on Falling? Why it stalled in Canada's Pop radio and didnt even entered top 5 The same can be said about Liam, why did he explode on Pop while he was freefalling on Rhythmic? Your argument makes no sense. A song doesn't have to reach the same level of success on every single format. A format will always be more inclined to play a song over another.
WonderstruckFR Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 Just now, Eóghan said: The same can be said about Liam, why did he explode on Pop while he was freefalling on Rhythmic? Your argument makes no sense. A song doesn't have to reach the same level of success on every single format. A format will always be more inclined to play a song over another. Educate him.
QueenofCopyPaste Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Eóghan said: The same can be said about Liam, why did he explode on Pop while he was freefalling on Rhythmic? Your argument makes no sense. A song doesn't have to reach the same level of success on every single format. A format will always be more inclined to play a song over another. Because of Liam's great callout scores on Pop (#1) . Simple. Could Taylor? Now explain why LWWYYMD stalled in Canadian radio and wasnt event Top 5 unlike her past leads. Which is always usually in congruent with US radio
QueenofCopyPaste Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, WonderstruckFR said: That's why it's struggling on HAC radio for a while then, and that's absolutely not surprising. Do you have the POP callout scores to prove your point? Its not on the familiariry list which is bizzare so no.
Blue Honeymoon Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 The way the swifties try to pretend this is organic and natural is ridiculous. Like you know better than everybody that Taylor is success hungry and she and her team have gone to embarrassing lengths in order to "protect her brand". Like Taylor Nation in 2014-2015 was actually sending messages to fans on Twitter, asking them to delete leaked photos and 10 second snippets! Anyway, this is the most obvious example of payola I've ever seen since I started to follow charts (2012). The fact that we don't have the callout scores on pop radio makes me think that precisely we don't have them yet because they are obviously not so favorable and thus wouldn't make sense with the big push the song is having right now. And I really don't care for any arguments, this is crystal clear for me and don't really have the time today to fight with anybody.
QueenofCopyPaste Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, WonderstruckFR said: Educate him. Oh no need sir. Just one look at the callout scores list and Liam is #1 in there. Hence the great updates in pop radio
WonderstruckFR Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Blue Honeymoon said: The way the swifties try to pretend this is organic and natural is ridiculous. Like you know better than everybody that Taylor is success hungry and she and her team have gone to embarrassing lengths in order to "protect her brand". Like Taylor Nation in 2014-2015 was actually sending messages to fans on Twitter, asking them to delete leaked photos and 10 second snippets! Anyway, this is the most obvious example of payola I've ever seen since I started to follow charts (2012). The fact that we don't have the callout scores on pop radio makes me think that precisely we don't have them yet because they are obviously not so favorable and thus wouldn't make sense with the big push the song is having right now. And I really don't care for any arguments, this is crystal clear for me and don't really have the time today to fight with anybody. You don't have any proof though, so your crystal clear water is useless. 5 minutes ago, ATRL's WP Magnet said: Oh no need sir. Just one look at the callout scores list and Liam is #1 in there. Hence the great updates in pop radio POP 1 = LIAM PAYNE Strip That Down 17013 -916 103.521 -440 Spins -510 Bullet -1.566 Audience Making room for the new and organic #1. Edited October 11, 2017 by WonderstruckFR
mike3009 Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 33 minutes ago, Eóghan said: Did y'all see Liam (#1) and Niall's (#3) freefall? -440 spins and -377 spins. I'm sorry but Taylor's explosion is completely organic, it was HER TURN. She was stuck in the top 5 forever waiting for the twink boys to peak. Y'all can call this payola all you want but it is ORGANIC. During Taylor's entire run on Pop, she only got 3 days of negative spins: the 2nd of October, the 3rd and the 4th. And the loss in spins was barely noticeable, between -20 and -60 spins. If you cumulate all of Liam' negative spin days in Pop, he's well above 15 days. The song was never dead, very much alive, just stuck between songs and waiting to be put on power rotation once the other song above her peaks. But "payola!!1!@"
mike3009 Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, Blue Honeymoon said: The way the swifties try to pretend this is organic and natural is ridiculous. Like you know better than everybody that Taylor is success hungry and she and her team have gone to embarrassing lengths in order to "protect her brand". Like Taylor Nation in 2014-2015 was actually sending messages to fans on Twitter, asking them to delete leaked photos and 10 second snippets! Anyway, this is the most obvious example of payola I've ever seen since I started to follow charts (2012). The fact that we don't have the callout scores on pop radio makes me think that precisely we don't have them yet because they are obviously not so favorable and thus wouldn't make sense with the big push the song is having right now. And I really don't care for any arguments, this is crystal clear for me and don't really have the time today to fight with anybody. Imagine thinking having your song put on power rotation is "embarrassing lengths"
Kworb Posted October 11, 2017 Author Posted October 11, 2017 Payola is to get songs started, not to get them to #1. It's not practical. There's nothing strange about her run on pop radio.
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