allnight Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 So i'm guessing the remix and the original won't be merged since it has a different name and it's ed AND beyoncé instead of ed ft. beyoncé Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaithe Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 9 hours ago, Green said: Beyonce will be credited for Perfect even if her version doesn't have the most points. obviously It's Beyonce, after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 4 hours ago, T-Swizz said: That couldn't be right! @Blade stated that the remix was NEVER on par with the original in terms on points??? Wrong. I said debut week @simmnfierzig said it was close but the OG still bested it by a bit and that every week after the OG just destroyed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Swizz Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, Blade said: Wrong. I said debut week @simmnfierzig said it was close but the OG still bested it by a bit and that every week after the OG just destroyed it. That’s exactly what I just said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, T-Swizz said: That’s exactly what I just said? You said that I said the versions were NEVER on par. I’ve always acknowledged that debut week they were close. So what exactly are you trying to get at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Billboard is such a mess for these remix credits being done on a case by case basis, like honestly... It's not hard to have a rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMythologies Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) I've been traveling this week and haven't had a chance to crunch #'s for the full top 20 this week, but I have Havana 40 points behind Rockstar next week. I was still pretty sure Havana had a shot at #1 but now I don't know with this darn Perfect remix. Edit: Ugh... and I just noticed Perfect is discounted while Havana just lost its discount. Edited December 1, 2017 by NoMythologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Swizz Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 34 minutes ago, Blade said: You said that I said the versions were NEVER on par. I’ve always acknowledged that debut week they were close. So what exactly are you trying to get at? No, you always said the original had more points, which isn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelven Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Honestly I've never understood why there's so much inconsistency and strange rules regarding remix credits. To me, it's always felt like there's an answer that intuitively makes sense - if a remix helps a song reach a new peak that it otherwise wouldn't have reached without the remix, the remix artist should be credited. I've always felt like the "remix needs to get more total points than the original" rule was unfair and an inaccurate reflection of the impact of a remix. If a song is at #3 with 300 points, and then a remix is released with the original getting 300 points again and the remix getting 200 points, and the song peaks at #1 as a result of its combined 500 points, it makes no sense for the remix artist to NOT be credited simply because the remix only contributed to 40% of the song's total points. The song wouldn't have gone #1 without the remix, so the credits should reflect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHype. Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 Simple: Billboard rewards features on songs with 30% of points when compiling Year-End/All-Time Lists. Every week a remix is atleast 30% of a song's total points, the artists on the remix should be credited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 hour ago, T-Swizz said: No, you always said the original had more points, which isn't the case. "Debut week it was very close to 50:50 at least. Depending what version radio was really playing how often" - Simm Simm literally told you that it was very close and it depended on what version radio was playing more because the original was outdoing it on streaming and the remix was outdoing it on digital it all depended on radio. Radio was spinning the original a bit more considering radio stations change their playlists in the middle of the week meaning the first half of the tracking week they were still spinning the OG on top of the plays the OG was getting in the 2nd half. All signs point to the original just having a little bit more points in debut week probably a 51/49 ratio or even less like 50.5/49.5. Which is what I've always said. Are you literally ******ed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Swizz Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Blade said: "Debut week it was very close to 50:50 at least. Depending what version radio was really playing how often" - Simm Simm literally told you that it was very close and it depended on what version radio was playing more because the original was outdoing it on streaming and the remix was outdoing it on digital it all depended on radio. Radio was spinning the original a bit more considering radio stations change their playlists in the middle of the week meaning the first half of the tracking week they were still spinning the OG on top of the plays the OG was getting in the 2nd half. All signs point to the original just having a little bit more points in debut week probably a 51/49 ratio or even less like 50.5/49.5. Which is what I've always said. Are you literally ******ed? Let me put this in context. Your original post was in reference to why the hive was bragging about a top 3 position since the original track had more points but just now you're clearly stating that the difference between the two versions is so minuscule that it could've been 50.5/49.5? At the end of the day the ONLY reason is went top 3 was because of the remix so why wouldn't we celebrate that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recordyear Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 41 minutes ago, ChartsFan said: So Post didn't release. but Reputation is on streaming. so Stapleton loses out again, and Vol 2 will have to settle for a #2 peak like vol 1 did. HDD actually predicted U2's album will be #1. Let's see the results next week. (Isn't it weird to discuss albums in Hot 100 thread though?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recordyear Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, ChartsFan said: does u2 have a tour bundle? They'll need it to be anywhere close. They have. Surprised HDD not mentioning that though. http://www.u2.com/tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Megamind Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 How many sales does perfect need to topple Rockstar? @simmnfierzig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 46 minutes ago, Monster Megamind said: How many sales does perfect need to topple Rockstar? @simmnfierzig How many streams is it getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Megamind Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, simmnfierzig said: How many streams is it getting? We will have to wait for a day. As of last week what was the point diff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Swizz Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, Monster Megamind said: We will have to wait for a day. As of last week what was the point diff? He already posted last weeks points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Megamind Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 The remix alone should do 75k sales and 12 million streams to beat rockstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieuxvu Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Monster Megamind said: The remix alone should do 75k sales and 12 million streams to beat rockstar With this current lead, 75k is not out of reach. I don't know if it can gather more than 12M streams in the US. Edited December 1, 2017 by pieuxvu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyboy Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) Early predictions with the best streaming numbers I could find for the top 3: 1. Rockstar 515 2. Perfect 490 3. Havana 476 Edited December 1, 2017 by Mattyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieuxvu Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 16 minutes ago, Mattyboy said: Early predictions with the best streaming numbers I could find for the top 3: 1. Rockstar 515 2. Perfect 490 3. Havana 476 Oh no. Please let Perfect be #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenofCopyPaste Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 We dont even have streaming numbers yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torturo Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Mattyboy said: Early predictions with the best streaming numbers I could find for the top 3: 1. Rockstar 515 2. Perfect 490 3. Havana 476 which week is this (before or after remix)? Edited December 1, 2017 by Torturo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Link Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Is top 2 on lock for Perfect? It currenly holds an 80%+ lead on iTunes combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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