Domination Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Just now, Sunshine. said: The Billboard charts are consumption charts tho. No they most certainly are not. Otherwise they would count Zippyshare and other pirating and still allow you to sell albums for $0.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6_INCH_HEELS Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Sunshine. said: The Billboard charts are consumption charts tho. I mean, that's what they keep telling us, right. It's all about "consumption" and now it's all about revenue. My, my, my... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassi Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Domination said: No they most certainly are not. Otherwise they would count Zippyshare and other pirating and still allow you to sell albums for $0.99 I mean, I wasn't posing a question. It's a fact. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepo Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Drag ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epica Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Billboard: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domination Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Just now, Sunshine. said: I mean, I wasn't posing a question. It's a fact. lol But it isn't a fact, my dear. They are a consumption chart as long as said consumption is meeting a particular standard of revenue. Always has been since it became a thing. Like I said, if it were a "consumption chart" as you claim, then they would count piracy. But they aren't. You can call a cat a dog but it will never be a dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheromosa Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 The irrelevant calling the relevant irrelevant is funny.... but they have some good points that you cannot disagree with tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherocks Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 This whole drama around Meek's free streams has totally ruined a very interesting competition for the top spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 HDD lowkey coming through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenofCopyPaste Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Boots Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 11 hours ago, swissman said: For sure! And they need to get song streams out of counting for the Billboard 200. then what streams will they count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Boots Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 10 hours ago, Sunshine. said: The Billboard charts are consumption charts tho. then they should have counted rihanna's 1 million copies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbeatxx Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaithe Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Free streams should be weighed much much less than paid streams, that I agree. But at the end of the day, Billboard is THE definitive official chart. It's not going to change however much HDD fumes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GokuRed Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 11 minutes ago, Quaithe said: Free streams should be weighed much much less than paid streams, that I agree. But at the end of the day, Billboard is THE definitive official chart. It's not going to change however much HDD fumes No they shouldn't - consumption is consumption. Just because I pay to consume and someone else listens to ads doesn't mean my consumption is worth more than theirs. Streams in front of a paywall shouldn't be counted on the BB200 especially since Tidal's could be botted so easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazareth Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 How’s HDD calling Billboard irrelevant when it’s more relevant than HDD. All streams should be counted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 12 hours ago, swissman said: For sure! And they need to get song streams out of counting for the Billboard 200. so true since when people listening to the same song a lot equals to people listening to a whole album This was the first time i realized that charts are becoming highly inaccurate, and they have never been fully accurate in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mercurio said: How’s HDD calling Billboard irrelevant when it’s more relevant than HDD. All streams should be counted. then why are they not fully counting youtube and spotify (especially youtube which is easily bigger), but only tidal Edited July 29, 2017 by Mariano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazareth Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mariano said: then why are they not fully counting youtube and spotify (especially youtube which is easily bigger), but only tidal That’s a rule that clearly needs to be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurora Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 both need to stfu and fix their ****, the charts are clearly broken and need constant revision with the rate streaming is growing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Just now, Mercurio said: That’s a rule that clearly needs to be changed. i kind of agree, but then again it will be much easier to manipulate those streams etc. It will always be flawed, but Tidal getting away with obvious **** and other bigger companies playing by the rules is obviously problematic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazareth Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Just now, Mariano said: i kind of agree, but then again it will be much easier to manipulate those streams etc. It will always be flawed, but Tidal getting away with obvious **** and other bigger companies playing by the rules is obviously problematic. Then they should count a certain percentage of streams from all streaming companies. Tidal shouldn’t be getting away with these free streams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anklebiterrs Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 11 hours ago, 6_INCH_HEELS said: I mean, that's what they keep telling us, right. It's all about "consumption" and now it's all about revenue. My, my, my... Not really. You can't count radio streams, songs that are being paid to be put on there, and say it's based on consumption. If a consumer has no choice but to listen to it, it shouldn't count towards a consumption chart. But at the same time, if they're just talking about biggest songs in America atm, there shouldn't be a price floor. All of ANTI's free copies should be counted, for example. It's a chart that's quickly losing relevance. A #1 single now isn't as big a deal as it was 10, or even 5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinashebanks Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 HDD has been trying to take out billboard for ages now & they even come after Nielsen mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingdong123 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Billboard messed up since they added streams to BB 200. That was just plain wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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