Actorguy21 Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, ronelmaano13 said: The list is for songs that sold 1 million + in the US. Saying Taylor Swift doesn't have a classic in the US when you are not living there invalidates your opinion. Stop being delusional. Well I live in the US and when I think about ACTUAL classics most songs in the last 10 years wouldn't be considered a classic yet. Also there is difference between a general classic and a classic for the artists career. For example, me myself and I & lucky are considered classics in Beyonce's and Britney's discographies. However I wouldn't call them a classic for the GP because they are not as remembered by the GP and they don't receive as much replay as other songs during the same time (CIL, BOMT) which are usually certified classics. Love story will probably become Taylor's first classic but ita not there. (Not enough time has passed). However it is a classic in her discography if you get what I'm saying. OT: Congrats RIH Edited July 3, 2017 by Actorguy21
Reb'l Rêveur Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 Let's not put Taylor ahead of Adele, okay? Because Adele's TALENT alone >>> Taylor's sales/royalty and acclaim. Thanks.
Janet Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 On 01/07/2017 at 11:23 PM, Erreur2 La Nature said: This is so weird to watch this list and realize Taylor Swift who is easily number one doesn't have ANY classic for example, when Beyoncé, Britney, Gaga, Adele etc are all far behind but way more successful and actually have classics. I mean, congrats to Taylor for that but... it makes you understand all of these lists don't mean anything, it's just a number. thats what happens when a whole generation of teenage girls are given iTunes gift cards every Christmas and birthday
Nerevanin Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, P!nkInside said: It hasn't sold 1m digitally; this thread only counts digital sales. What kind of discrimination
DELE2125 Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: Critics are not eligible to vote on Grammys We were talking success. Earning money is a big part of being successful imo. Adele changed the whole pop landscape? Wow. Impressive Only a legend Slay Let me ask you. If we put Adele's success as a 10 on a scale of 1-10, where would you put Taylor? Around 8. She's a pretty successful popstar and has solidified her status in the music industry. There is no denying of that. But she's just not on Adele's level. But still, kudos to Taylor, she has earned her success with her songwriting talent, which is actually amazing.
ronelmaano13 Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Actorguy21 said: Well I live in the US and when I think about ACTUAL classics most songs in the last 10 years wouldn't be considered a classic yet. Also there is difference between a general classic and a classic for the artists career. For example, me myself and I & lucky are considered classics in Beyonce's and Britney's discographies. However I wouldn't call them a classic for the GP because they are not as remembered by the GP and they don't receive as much replay as other songs during the same time (CIL, BOMT) which are usually certified classics. Love story will probably become Taylor's first classic but ita not there. (Not enough time has passed). However it is a classic in her discography if you get what I'm saying. And this thread is not even about what is a classic or not. It's about songs that sold 1 million + copies. And what constitute a classic anyway?
DELE2125 Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Reb'l Rêveur said: Let's not put Taylor ahead of Adele, okay? Because Adele's TALENT alone >>> Taylor's sales/royalty and acclaim. Thanks. Pretty much this.
ronelmaano13 Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 And why are Adele fans trying to invalidate Taylor's achievement in this thread. We get it, Adele outsells everyone, but don't undermine Taylor's success. This thread is about songs that sold 1 million + copies. Stay on topic.
simmnfierzig Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, DELE2125 said: Around 8. She's a pretty successful popstar and has solidified her status in the music industry. There is no denying of that. But she's just not on Adele's level. But still, kudos to Taylor, she has earned her success with her songwriting talent, which is actually amazing. Can't take anyone who says anything below 9.5 seriously. Sorry
DELE2125 Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 Just now, simmnfierzig said: Can't take anyone who says anything below 9.5 seriously. Sorry Ok, you're entitled to your wrong opinion, I guess.
P!nkInside Posted July 3, 2017 Author Posted July 3, 2017 STOP FIGHTING. TAKE IT TO BASE WHERE IT BELONGS.
Actorguy21 Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ronelmaano13 said: And this thread is not even about what is a classic or not. It's about songs that sold 1 million + copies. And what constitute a classic anyway? I don't honestly have an exact definition. The closest I could get to would be a song that is older than 10 years and is still very much loved by the GP. Has nice recurrent replay and people cite it as definitive moment in an artists career. For Example IWALY MHWGO Wannabe Billie Jean BOMT UMH Lose yourself Crazy in love Say my name Fallin Beautiful AIWFCIY ABMB I would never say songs like WFL LS ROTD Bad Romance RTW Only girl Firework Would be considered classics just yet. They arent old enough. They are very popular just not classics. OT: wow at Taylor having so many songs. Congrats Swift! Edited July 3, 2017 by Actorguy21
simmnfierzig Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 12 minutes ago, P!nkInside said: STOP FIGHTING. TAKE IT TO BASE WHERE IT BELONGS. Why don't you like fighting Not sure what you could really say 100% on topic here. Well I could say that you have Demi listed at #14 and #19 in the op, but I really don't care tbh...
cherrychapstick Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, simmnfierzig said: Love Story is famous in a lot of countries. And there are 0 songs in the history of music that are known by everyone. Exactly 0. Well, Happy Birthday is the one song that I can think of that everyone knows.
Roberto Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 2 hours ago, ronelmaano13 said: This list is for the US, so? Love Story, her first crossover hit, is a classic. You Belong With Me is also a classic. Shake It Off, and Blank Space will surely be classics. 22 to some extent is a birthday classic. Well, yes but some people here are pretending these are WW classics and they are not.
doonerr Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 This must be for the digital era, because Madonna and Mariah have more than a handful
Ash12345 Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, istan4badgalriri said: I'm pretty sure Billboard said Rihanna has 31 Top 10 hits/14 #1s and those include her features. I'm also pretty sure Soundscan published a list of Rihanna's best selling songs in the US and that list included LTWYL, The Monster, Run This Town, LYL. http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6605708/ask-billboard-rihannas-best-selling-songs-albums Yes but when they count total sales they don't include features. It's like how they include DC in beyonce's biggest BB hits. http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/5657799/ask-billboard-whos-sold-more-katy-perry-or-lady-gaga
istan4badgalriri Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 12 minutes ago, Ash12345 said: Yes but when they count total sales they don't include features. It's like how they include DC in beyonce's biggest BB hits. http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/5657799/ask-billboard-whos-sold-more-katy-perry-or-lady-gaga Nope, I don't think Billboard has ever said that Beyoncé has 10 #1s. Plus this thread isn't about total sales.
Ash12345 Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 3 hours ago, istan4badgalriri said: Nope, I don't think Billboard has ever said that Beyoncé has 10 #1s. Plus this thread isn't about total sales. Coz she doesn't??? But they do include DC in her biggest hits, but they don't include it in her total sales. http://www.billboard.com/articles/list/467645/beyonces-30-biggest-billboard-hits
ThirdWardBey Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 16 minutes ago, Ash12345 said: Coz she doesn't??? But they do include DC in her biggest hits, but they don't include it in her total sales. http://www.billboard.com/articles/list/467645/beyonces-30-biggest-billboard-hits She does.
Ash12345 Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 Just now, ThirdWardBey said: She does. I thought it was 9 as an artist 10 as a songwriter?
ThirdWardBey Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 Just now, Ash12345 said: I thought it was 9 as an artist 10 as a songwriter? Yes, she’s credited as a songwriter on Nelly’s Grillz.
blackbeatxx Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 Omg not a Taylor vs Adele feud again So unnecessary.
Hi_im_new Posted July 3, 2017 Posted July 3, 2017 12 hours ago, simmnfierzig said: Can people just shut the **** up with this "Taylor doesn't have classics" garbage. It's just completely wrong and makes me really angry. lmao why should I give a damn what makes you angry? Go listen to bad blood and blow off some steam.
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