Marla Singer Posted February 7 Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Le Grande said: About how everybody knows that her and her husband bullied the comitee for this award because litte miss greedy was not satisfied with 30+ grammys. It's lesser and not worthy. Sounds like you're the one who's crying here.
Anthinos Posted February 7 Posted February 7 I agree with him and that's how a lot of pop albums especially from America feel to me these days. I'm not a fan of Beyonce but CC was something new from her. Lady Gaga is also someone who brings new elements to her music and pushes pop music forward with songs like Disease and Abracadabra. Taylor is good but I personally often find her music generic. 1
Relampago. Posted February 7 Posted February 7 2 hours ago, period sis said: This is literally just one vote out of thousands. Clearly others thought similarly considering Beyonce literally won the top prize. It's interesting that there were blind ballots during Renaissance's year from voters that evidently pointed against Beyonce. Everyone was supposed to just accept the "opinions," but now, when it's precious little Taylor and Billie, their fans are attacking people who are just giving THEIR opinion. Crazy how every time Beyonce wins something it's always a conspiracy She can't ever WIN like everyone else does every year. This goes both ways though and the bolded is just pure hypocrisy Has anyone else had so much outcry when they didn't win like Bey did when ST, Lemonade and Rennie lost? Adele, Harry and Beck were lashed relentlessly too. Hell, even when Billie won AOTY, Ari and Lana stans wouldn't shut the **** up and STILL won't to this day. While I don't believe anyone should be trying to discredit Bey's win, the hypocrisy of everyone saying "UGH! Why can't Bey just WIN IN PEACE?!?!??!??!!!" when I don't think there's ever been such a long, drawn out crusade by so many people to get Bey a win and the amount backlash her contemporaries got for winning instead of her was The only possible comparison I can think of is Kendrick losing for TPAB, and even that's not really close. People need to leave every AOTY winner alone, this isn't specific to Bey, and in fact the Hive has been responsible for some of the biggest backlashes against AOTY winners makes it all the more hypocritical. 4 1
OneAndOnly Posted February 7 Posted February 7 Seeing Billie stans being more angry than the Beyhive ever was with Beyoncé's past AOTY snubs is CRAZY to me
Havoc Posted February 7 Posted February 7 15 hours ago, Onyxmage said: What is this supposed to mean? Did this man have a legitimate vote because if so thats scary. At least those girls didn't need to enlist an army of songwriters to contribute a sentence to each song. The scammys remain a JOKE. And at least on CC there are actual good vocals.
Jay07 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 (edited) 10 hours ago, Relampago. said: This goes both ways though and the bolded is just pure hypocrisy Has anyone else had so much outcry when they didn't win like Bey did when ST, Lemonade and Rennie lost? Adele, Harry and Beck were lashed relentlessly too. Hell, even when Billie won AOTY, Ari and Lana stans wouldn't shut the **** up and STILL won't to this day. While I don't believe anyone should be trying to discredit Bey's win, the hypocrisy of everyone saying "UGH! Why can't Bey just WIN IN PEACE?!?!??!??!!!" when I don't think there's ever been such a long, drawn out crusade by so many people to get Bey a win and the amount backlash her contemporaries got for winning instead of her was The only possible comparison I can think of is Kendrick losing for TPAB, and even that's not really close. People need to leave every AOTY winner alone, this isn't specific to Bey, and in fact the Hive has been responsible for some of the biggest backlashes against AOTY winners makes it all the more hypocritical. Well, I never saw any Hive claim that Harry or Adele bought the award or that they bullied the Academy, as if any one person has that power. Just really dumb, racist stuff. There are always these braindead conspiracies following her and it's directly connected to her being a Black female. They've been calling her an illuminati priestess or whatever it is since the beginning. People blaming her for what Diddy did, saying she killed Aaliyah. So while every fanbase whines when their fave loses, no one has to face attacks that are as stupid and racist as she does. Edited February 8 by Jay07 4 1
Le Grande Posted February 7 Posted February 7 4 hours ago, king_queen said: Beyoncé won a Grammy this year. Billie did not achieve that. What are we even talking about? I'm not sure, you lost me at "you can call Beyonce a loser every time she won lots of ****, but not AOTY." But listen, if this were Lemonade vs. CC from some third singer, I bet you'd all abandon CC immediately, and rightfully so. That's the standard that should have received this recognition, not this lame-ass trash. But that's subjective, I guess. 1
Shinning Posted February 7 Posted February 7 Taylor fans are so funny to me. She was never in the run. That bloated overthought with no quality control album was NEVER gonna win. Did they not read the reviews? 1 1
BrokenMachine Posted February 7 Posted February 7 Let me guess, he's asking female artists to serve 'somethint new', but he won't do the same for male artists. I'd even dare to say he voted for Chris Brown too, given how much The Grammys love him
Mostar Posted February 7 Posted February 7 4 hours ago, Jenni said: It's always funny to me when people say that Billie didn't innovate with hmhas because she never said that her goal with this album was to create something super different from her previous albums. She literally said that hmhas is like a more personal version of wwafa and she absolutely nailed it. I hate that people think that an artist needs to innovate with every single album they make. Beyoncé herself only started innovating with her sound after her fifth album, same thing with Taylor. An artist can make good albums without having to change genres every single time. Specially Billie, who incorporates so many different genres into her music, from trap to jazz. But I would say Album of the Year should be awarded to an album that pushes the enveloppe. When revisiting the year 2024, it should tell us something about that year. HMHAS is a good or great album, but it is not a huge departure or Billie's most "in your face" artistic statement. In a less competitve year, she would have done much better, but 2024 was crazy competitve. I would argue that most albums nominated against her (Cowboy Carter, Brat, Rise and Fall, Short and Sweet) are either daring and innovating albums OR albums that signaled a pivot/major breakthrough/reinvention in an artist career. HMHAS was good, but it did not have a strong and compelling narrative to be awarded that night. And that's okay, it will remain a beloved album - whereas I am not sure if the love for Cowboy Carter will hold up years down the line in the mainstream. 2
Onyxmage Posted February 7 Posted February 7 2 hours ago, Havoc said: And at least on CC there are actual good vocals. Like Texas Hold Em? Whitney is shaking in her grave. 1
Havoc Posted February 8 Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Onyxmage said: Like Texas Hold Em? Whitney is shaking in her grave. Beyonce actually belts out full phrases in Texas Hold Em in the higher 5th octave. Something Taylor and Billie would kill themselves to do. 2 2
Onyxmage Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Havoc said: Beyonce actually belts out full phrases in Texas Hold Em in the higher 5th octave. Something Taylor and Billie would kill themselves to do. and Billie and Taylor actually write on all of their songs. Something Beyonce would kill herself to be able to do (and stealing writing credits doesn't count). Edited February 8 by Onyxmage 4
50thStateofMind Posted February 8 Posted February 8 2 hours ago, Onyxmage said: Like Texas Hold Em? Whitney is shaking in her grave. you really thought you ate here huh
Relampago. Posted February 8 Posted February 8 5 hours ago, OneAndOnly said: Seeing Billie stans being more angry than the Beyhive ever was with Beyoncé's past AOTY snubs is CRAZY to me Another blatant lie considering y'all have been mad for 10 years now 1
thirdward Posted February 8 Posted February 8 19 hours ago, LadyFlopga said: How can HMHAS win AOTY if it did not even best pop vocal album? You need to let it go, she was not even the runner up this also can be said for ST since it didn't win r&b album looking back Sam smith was actually the runner up didn't stop anyone to come at beck and not pharrell coming for the AOTY winner is a Grammys cycle since 2013 and no one is above it sorry
Kyoto Posted February 8 Posted February 8 13 hours ago, Relampago. said: and in fact the Hive has been responsible for some of the biggest backlashes against AOTY winners makes it all the more hypocritical. LOUDER 1
Kyoto Posted February 8 Posted February 8 13 hours ago, OneAndOnly said: Seeing Billie stans being more angry than the Beyhive ever was with Beyoncé's past AOTY snubs is CRAZY to me Beyoncé wins a Grammy for every fart she releases, while out of 4 projects Billie has released, only her debut got Grammys. Imagine ST, LEMONADE, RENNA going home with no Grammys? The hive would have the ceo of the Grammy killed. 4
Kristie Kuwa Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Kyoto said: Beyoncé wins a Grammy for every fart she releases, while out of 4 projects Billie has released, only her debut got Grammys. Imagine ST, LEMONADE, RENNA going home with no Grammys? The hive would have the ceo of the Grammy killed. Why lie? Everything I wanted won a Grammy, what was I made for won a Grammy, No Time To Die won a Grammy. None of them were on her debut. Edited February 8 by Kristie Kuwa 1
no_better Posted February 8 Posted February 8 I disagree. When you say „different version of an album they've always made" that implies you are referring to at least 2 albums. While HMHAS might have moments similar to HTE, WWAFAWDWG for most part sounds nothing like the other two. As for Taylor, I suppose he is referring primarily to folklore and evermore? Which also wouldn't be the case, as TTPD is not a different version of these. It's a much worse one Either way he's just saying stuff, even though I do agree that Beyonce deserved to finally win
Welovetrouble Posted February 8 Posted February 8 On 2/7/2025 at 6:13 AM, cuteboyzay said: Sonically HMHAS is verryyyy much like her other stuff. It's literally my favorite album by hers and is so brilliantly written. But I remember the FIRST thought I had of HMHAS when I first heard it literally minutes after it dropped was "She needs to work with someone else other than Finneas". He's NOT wrong in his analysis and I'm glad more of these Grammy voters and the music industry aren't setting the bar so INCREDIBLY LOW for YT artists. Beyonce deservedly won but hhmas doesn't sound like wwafawdwg at all, I could see an argument for hte but I still even disagree with that analysis
Welovetrouble Posted February 8 Posted February 8 13 hours ago, OneAndOnly said: Seeing Billie stans being more angry than the Beyhive ever was with Beyoncé's past AOTY snubs is CRAZY to me Let's not try to rewrite history, they trolled the **** out of beck
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