base talk Why is Gaga's acting success diminished so much on ATRL?

[GraceRandolph]

When it comes to other pop stars and their acting endeavors a measly GG nomination is enough to warrant a defense of their ability and acting prowess, but Gaga has in a very short amount of time garnered multiple GG noms, along with a win for AHS, her first lead TV role, and an Oscar nom for her first major film role. Along with the BAFTA noms and critics prizes that are among the most prestigious in Hollywood, as well as praise from Jane Campion, Guillermo Del Toro and a multitude of directors. Gaga managed to earn praise for a role even Streisand struggled in, and filled the shoes of Judy Garland yet because of Joker were expected to pretend she is not a good actress. 

Edited Monday at 10:56 AM by GraceRandolph

[Spicy Pisces]

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[Bumba]

Have you seen AHS Hotel? Her acting was bad and that award was not deserved. If you can't acknowledge that, you're a delusional stan. 

[MonsterNavy]

no other massive popstar from this century has transitioned to hollywood as gracefully and effortless as her

 

[GraceRandolph]

Just now, Bumba said:

Have you seen AHS Hotel? Her acting was bad and that award was not deserved. If you can't acknowledge that, you're a delusional stan. 

She was great towards the end of the season, and was also nominated for her first two film roles. 

[Zaram]

I mean every kind of success Gaga has is diminished here.

She is still pulling  #1 mega smashes despite allegedly being a fad for 10 years 

Same with the acting. She has one of the biggest acting careers compared to ATRL faves and that makes those ATRLers insecure as usual.

[Mariano]

Everything Gaga does is diminished in the ATRL bubble nn, she is only 38 and has achieved an insane amount of things both in music and outside and it makes some people really upset, she'll continue to achieve more and more too, because she has talent and determination. I'm so excited to see what's next for her ugh  

[ChooseyLover]

To me it looks like conversations here are all about chart receipts and box office, aka commercial success and just every topic imaginable centered around a monetary/financial pov. They ignore that Gaga was praised for her role despite the film being panned.

[Mariano]

2 minutes ago, Bumba said:

Have you seen AHS Hotel? Her acting was bad and that award was not deserved. If you can't acknowledge that, you're a delusional stan. 

? Her acting was great with very few/small exceptions and that's why she won a GG for it   A lot of people I know irl tell me Hotel is their fav season that Gaga was incredible and a lot of people in general think Gaga was great in AHS. Also Hotel is one of the only seasons that often goes viral on tiktok mostly cuz of Gaga and Evan Peters characters/acting. 

[GraceRandolph]

2 minutes ago, ChooseyLover said:

To me it looks like conversations here are all about chart receipts and box office, aka commercial success and just every topic imaginable centered around a monetary/financial pov. They ignore that Gaga was praised for her role despite the film being panned.

It's so stupid. I thought Lee was Gaga's best role so far despite the limited screen time. 

[ChooseyLover]

1 minute ago, GraceRandolph said:

It's so stupid. I thought Lee was Gaga's best role so far despite the limited screen time. 

I've only watched the AHS: Hotel season and A Star Is Born and I was captivated by her performance every time.

 

She could star in a indie film not aimed at the masses tomorrow, be praised to the heavens for her acting and ATRL would find a way to paint it as a failure.

[GraceRandolph]

Just now, ChooseyLover said:

I've only watched the AHS: Hotel season and A Star Is Born and I was captivated by her performance every time.

 

She could star in a indie film not aimed at the masses tomorrow, be praised to the heavens for her acting and ATRL would find a way to paint it as a failure.

Honestly she should star in a Jane Schoenbrun film next. 

[Johnny Jacobs]

what acting success she has one hit movie

[Punky Rooster]

Why is Lady Gaga's success in acting  overstated so much by her fan base here?

 

She hasn't won a major award (Oscar, BAFTA, Golden Globe) for any of her film roles, even Madonna has done that, yet Gagastains always claim she's a terrible actress. 
 

It's best to just accept she's mid at best at being an actor and a pop star, and enjoy whatever you like about her and not worry if people don't agree with you.

[GraceRandolph]

1 minute ago, Punky Rooster said:

Why is Lady Gaga's success in acting  overstated so much by her fan base here?

 

She hasn't won a major award (Oscar, BAFTA, Golden Globe) for any of her film roles, even Madonna has done that, yet Gagastains always claim she's a terrible actress. 
 

It's best to just accept she's mid at best at being an actor and a pop star, and enjoy whatever you like about her and not worry if people don't agree with you.

Gaga won for a TV role, and some of the most prestigious actors do TV nowadays. Funny how Madonna fans bring up Madonna possibly being sixth in the Oscar race for Evita as some great achievement when Gaga being sixth in the Oscar race for House of Gucci was looked at as a disgrace and embarrassment. An Oscar NOMINATION for acting is far more prestigious than Madge's GG win anyway. 

[Mariano]

13 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

It's so stupid. I thought Lee was Gaga's best role so far despite the limited screen time. 

I do think it was some of her best acting by far, but best role? I really don't think so, the role itself was underwhelming, just like the movie. It just went nowhere.. it's really sad. 

[Punky Rooster]

2 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

Gaga won for a TV role, and some of the most prestigious actors do TV nowadays. Funny how Madonna fans bring up Madonna possibly being sixth in the Oscar race for Evita as some great achievement when Gaga being sixth in the Oscar race for House of Gucci was looked at as a disgrace and embarrassment. An Oscar NOMINATION for acting is far more prestigious than Madge's GG win anyway. 

Cool. She should do more TV then if she wants awards and her fans need that validation 

[Mariano]

6 minutes ago, Punky Rooster said:

Why is Lady Gaga's success in acting  overstated so much by her fan base here?

 

She hasn't won a major award (Oscar, BAFTA, Golden Globe) for any of her film roles, even Madonna has done that, yet Gagastains always claim she's a terrible actress. 
 

It's best to just accept she's mid at best at being an actor and a pop star, and enjoy whatever you like about her and not worry if people don't agree with you.

Madonna won GG and did not even get Oscar nom, that's crazy, why would u bring that up  

 

Gaga has won GG for leading role in tv series, an award that has been won by many huge actresses like Jessica Lange, Kate Winslet etc. 

 

She also got nominated for Oscar for Best Actress for her first try. She has won Critics Choice award for Best Actress for A star is born which is also a major award, nice that you omitted it. Golden Globe is not more important than Critics Choice, it just gets more publicity  

 

And she also won NBR for ASIB and NYFCC for House of Gucci which was quite prestigious.  

Let's not forget that she got all major precursors two times in a row. BAFTA, GG, SAG, CC Lead Actress nom for her first 2 movies + Oscar nom for one of them and probably missed Oscar nom for HOG by a hair. 

 

Gaga is the most accomplished singer turned LEAD actress of this century easily. 

Edited Monday at 11:25 AM by Mariano

[John Slayne]

it's one of OGHs' many delusions. they're obsessed with 'proving' that she's a fad even though reality says otherwise

7 minutes ago, Punky Rooster said:

Why is Lady Gaga's success in acting  overstated so much by her fan base here?

 

She hasn't won a major award (Oscar, BAFTA, Golden Globe) for any of her film roles, even Madonna has done that, yet Gagastains always claim she's a terrible actress. 
 

It's best to just accept she's mid at best at being an actor and a pop star, and enjoy whatever you like about her and not worry if people don't agree with you.

as a Madonna stan, I can confidently say that Gaga is a far better actress than Madonna ever was. 

[sunbathinganimal]

we love a critically acclaimed actress

 

[KatyPrismSpirit]

people didn't diminish her acting success during asib or hog. the critics started diminishing it because she was part of a movie that is factually one of the biggest box-office disasters of all time.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs

 

its on the list

[John Slayne]

8 minutes ago, Punky Rooster said:

Why is Lady Gaga's success in acting  overstated so much by her fan base here?

 

She hasn't won a major award (Oscar, BAFTA, Golden Globe) for any of her film roles, 

 

2 minutes ago, Punky Rooster said:

Cool. She should do more TV then if she wants awards and her fans need that validation 

 

now... 

[GraceRandolph]

Just now, KatyPrismSpirit said:

people didn't diminish her acting success during asib or hog. the critics started diminishing it because she was part of a movie that is factually one of the biggest box-office disasters of all time.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs

 

its on the list

Critics still praised her performance in Joker though? It was salty ATRL gays who blamed Gaga for Todd's poor creative decisions despite Gaga being highlighted as the standout of Joker 2. 

[Punky Rooster]

Just now, Mariano said:

Madonna won GG and did not even get Oscar nom, that's crazy, why would u bring that up  

 

Gaga has won GG for leading role in tv series, an award that has been won by many huge actresses like Jessica Lange, Kate Winslet etc. 

 

She also got nominated for Oscar for Best Actress for her first try. . 

Because it's a major televised award for a film role, isn't that what Gaga fans want?

 

And also she was in a panned film before the re-re-re-remake role of her playing a singer wasn't she? 
 

She should do more TV and forget movies, she's clearly not a leading lady.

[Punky Rooster]

6 minutes ago, John Slayne said:

it's one of OGHs' many delusions. they're obsessed with 'proving' that she's a fad even though reality says otherwise

as a Madonna stan, I can confidently say that Gaga is a far better actress than Madonna ever was. 

I've only seen a clip of Gaga trying to do accents on that Gucci movie and that was terrible. I'm not a movie person, I haven't even seen Evita, but I love Madonna's acting for its camp value, she's never tried to be "serious" as an actress outside of Dangerous Game, which she was great in.