charts discussion HDD: SOS 170k

[pride4jc1222]

Rumours is just going to chart in the Top 50 of the Billboard 200 in perpetuity. Not even Dangerous can outlast this.

[makeme]

17 hours ago, Space Cowboy said:

That's not really a good indicator. SOS was released in December 2022, so "Snooze" had practically all of 2023 to accumulate chart points.

 

So saying that it was #17 biggest song of the year isn't entirely accurate, considering there were many bigger songs that year that didn't earn as many chart points simply because they had less time to get points.

 

Just take a look at some WW peaks of Snooze:

UK: #18

AUS: #21

CAN: #11

SWI: #53

IRE: #49

GER: Did not chart

FR: Did not chart

ITA: Did not chart

SPA: Did not chart

 

I'm not saying "Snooze" isn't a hit, it is at some extent in some countries, mainly in the US. But it simply wasn't a SMASH.

 

If you asked people outside the USA if they've heard it, most would likely say no. And it really cannot be compared to any Teenage Dream single in terms of smashness.

Only on ATRL will you find a miserable homosexual claim a song that charted for 70 weeks is not a "smash" 

[Space Cowboy]

1 minute ago, makeme said:

Only on ATRL will you find a miserable homosexual claim a song that charted for 70 weeks is not a "smash" 

Can't you read? I admitted it was a local hit. It charted 70 weeks only in the US.

Snooze failed to become a global smash. Hardly anyone outside the US knows that song and cannot really be compared to any of the teenage dream singles.

[makeme]

Just now, Space Cowboy said:

Can't you read? I admitted it was a local hit. It charted 70 weeks only in the US.

Snooze failed to become a global smash. Hardly anyone outside the US knows that song and cannot really be compared to any of the teenage dream singles.

I can read and I'm seeing you move the goal post around to fit your narrative. Welcome to my ignore list! 

[Space Cowboy]

2 minutes ago, makeme said:

I can read and I'm seeing you move the goal post around to fit your narrative. Welcome to my ignore list! 

But i did not. I've been calling it a local hit since almost the beginning of the argument as you can see 

 

On 12/27/2024 at 11:21 PM, Space Cowboy said:

Local hit i fear

 

Also, the original narrative was SOS being consdiered the modern Teenage Dream and my point was simply that SOS' only teenage-dream-level smash was Kill Bill. 
 

Snooze is not a teenage-dream-level smash. How is that controversial?

[R.E.M.]

On 12/27/2024 at 3:55 PM, B-Luke said:

15 1 SZA | SOS TDE/RCA (SME)			170,707	293%	8,461	1,080	161,166
4 2 MICHAEL BUBLE | CHRISTMAS REPRISE (WMG)			97,275	43%	5,107	423	91,746
5 3 BING CROSBY | ULTIMATE CHRISTMAS UME (UMG)			95,403	46%	2,700	747	91,956
10 4 NAT KING COLE | CHRISTMAS SONG CAPITOL (UMG)			82,533	52%	3,651	646	78,237
3 5 TAYLOR SWIFT | THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT REPUBLIC (UMG)			76,411	-11%	51,366	134	24,911
9 6 MARIAH CAREY | MERRY CHRISTMAS COLUMBIA (SME)			75,867	35%	6,287	1,077	68,503
2 7 KENDRICK LAMAR | GNX PGLANG/INTERSCOPE (UMG)			75,385	-24%	1,153	550	73,682
7 8 WICKED | SOUNDTRACK VERVE/REPUBLIC (UMG)			68,005	5%	42,488	421	25,096
16 9 PHIL SPECTOR | A CHRISTMAS GIFT FOR YOU LEGACY (SME)			68,003	58%	1,001	288	66,714
17 10 FRANK SINATRA | ULTIMATE CHRISTMAS CAPITOL (UMG)			60,177	49%	2,815	396	56,965

 

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SOS up 293%

 

As an aside, Merry Christmas is charting surprisingly low given how huge AIWFCIY is every year. How is Michael Buble, Bing Crosby, and Nat King Cole charting so high?

[Lightbringer007]

56 minutes ago, R.E.M. said:

SOS up 293%

 

As an aside, Merry Christmas is charting surprisingly low given how huge AIWFCIY is every year. How is Michael Buble, Bing Crosby, and Nat King Cole charting so high?

they have more songs being playlisted/promoted more whereas MC only really has AIWFCIY thats been promoted