base talk Beyonce MOST RIAA certifcations by any female. Why?

[Antisocialites]

so let me get this straight... Beyoncé not having a certified diamond single because of her not updating them in a long time made her a flop, a has-been, a forgotten legacy act... but now that she's the most certified female artist is because other female artists haven't updated their certifications? so is updating certifications an excuse or a fair reason since so many of you keep changing your arguments every single damn time. 

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[KillingYourCareer]

Seems like she has a legendary discography after all!

[Joaco95]

4 hours ago, By the Water said:

Not every artist is chart obsessed and updates all their certifications

true but some of them would release like 3 or 4 versions of the same album with an extra (live) song per week to stay on charts

[Wicked]

Y'all argue more about objective things that don't need further analysis than you do about the actual music. 

[dumbsparce]

Someone should make a poll about what they would rather have:

 

A. 100 gold singles

B. 50 platinum singles

C. One 5 x diamond single

 

We need to settle this once and for all

 

 

 

 

[The Music Industry]

5 hours ago, Badgalbriel said:

Cause the other girls have not updated their certs. Just like RWT was at some point the biggest female tour, just because the other girls had not released their numbers yet. 

Literally this 

[Cloröx]

5 hours ago, Badgalbriel said:

Cause the other girls have not updated their certs. Just like RWT was at some point the biggest female tour, just because the other girls had not released their numbers yet. 

I mean most people know that RIAA certs is not auto, you basically need to pay for it to be updated 

[CocoPouf]

4 hours ago, Fleahive said:

I'll hold your hand when I say this. 
 

When some of your biggest hits are before the streaming era, your streams are not going to be as good compared to people that had their biggest hits during the streaming era. 
 

Baby Boy is "only" x2 platinum because most of its certifications came from pure sales after it went #1 for 9 weeks. 21 years later, it didn't stand the test of time with streams so it likely won't be certified any higher. On the opposite end Crazy In Love did stand the test of time and continues to be a massive streaming hit despite being 21 years old and will be diamond a couple years from now. 
 

There's a reason why the artists with the most diamond singles are artists from modern times. Do you really think Post Malone has bigger hits than Michael Jackson?

And who cares? Pop-fans? Beyonce is still one of the most successful artists of our lifetime, and an icon, whether the user I quoted thinks "being a success" in streaming is out-of-this-world and debuting before it is a disadvantage lol. 

So I feel like you don't understand my point. My point is to drag the mentality of @Eternium and the likes: Post Malone DOES NOT have bigger hits than Michael Jackson. 

[Soda Pop Queen]

7 hours ago, swissman said:

Before 2022 haters clung to "She hasn't had a solo #1 since 2008" (even though it was 2009, they always rounded down). But then she got one, and then this year she got another.

 

Before today haters reminded people "She doesn't even have a diamond single." As of today, she has two.

 

And this is why haters often get so mad about Beyoncé's success and notoriety. Nothing they have to say sticks for very long, and if it does it probably doesn't actually matter.

 

They dislike the general love she has as an artist, and try to sniff out statistics that make her look bad, or that make others look better in an effort to suggest she's not what she seems. But then when their points are ruined by actual facts, like subsequent #1 hits or diamond singles, suddenly the "well" responses come out. Well, her #1s didn't last as long as other #1s. Well, other people haven't certified all their records either.

 

BUT the reality is that none of this matters. Haters can go on refusing to believe the accolades Beyoncé has are earned from artistic excellence not PR, they can refuse to allow achievements mean things when it comes to Beyoncé, but at the end of the day Beyoncé is Beyoncé.

 

 

 

And every fan should wish that their fave is neither measured by their last #1 nor the amount of diamond singles they have, but actually by the quality and importance of their work.

 

I cannot think of a single pop artist in history whose cultural importance, notoriety, acclaim and general status INCREASED while the #1s and top tens decreased almost entirely. THAT is power. THAT is truly the power of pop music done well.

 

 

and we could've ended the thread right here.

 

 

You didn't even need to reply to anyone or anything else up in here. Let these kids argue with they momma.

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Soda Pop Queen

[Fleahive]

1 hour ago, CocoPouf said:

And who cares? Pop-fans? Beyonce is still one of the most successful artists of our lifetime, and an icon, whether the user I quoted thinks "being a success" in streaming is out-of-this-world and debuting before it is a disadvantage lol. 

So I feel like you don't understand my point. My point is to drag the mentality of @Eternium and the likes: Post Malone DOES NOT have bigger hits than Michael Jackson. 

Drag me, sorry I'm illiterate.

[Katamari]

Talent winning

[QuanticXplosion]

Anything else sis?

[Eternium]

2 hours ago, CocoPouf said:

And who cares? Pop-fans? Beyonce is still one of the most successful artists of our lifetime, and an icon, whether the user I quoted thinks "being a success" in streaming is out-of-this-world and debuting before it is a disadvantage lol. 

So I feel like you don't understand my point. My point is to drag the mentality of @Eternium and the likes: Post Malone DOES NOT have bigger hits than Michael Jackson. 

Work on your reading comprehension before trying to drag anyone. I wasn't criticizing Beyonce - just continuing the dialogue about other artists having higher certifications than her. Beyonce is at a massive disadvantage compared to artists like Billie Eilish, Taylor Swift, Rihanna and Ariana Grande because of the era she started in. Using them to criticize Beyoncé's numbers is entirely ignorant of the state of the market.
 

You're literally agreeing with me by comparing Post Malone and MJ and stating that the streaming era made things much easier

[WildHeart]

6 hours ago, Fleahive said:

Tell em riri stan. I saw child on TikTok saying Beyoncé only has 4 known songs against Taylor's 15 

And they would be right. She has like 5 remembered songs (CIL, Halo, Telephone, Irreplaceable, Single Ladies). 

Almost all MPG have more globally remembered hits

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