Kill Me Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) 18 minutes ago, shimind said: I'm glad trump won. Atleast he will work in a different way and maybe potentially stop the war altogether. He will work in a different way alright, there will be nothing but a big fat hole in the place where Gaza used to be... Hey at least you will get your wish of the war getting stopped. Edited November 6 by Kill Me 2
on the line Posted November 6 Posted November 6 We will never know, but it is possible looking at some of the demographic shifts. A white man will, for now, do better in America than a POC female.
RunUpDoneUp Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Kamala's problem was that she promised Biden 2.0, so make of that what you will. Can't belive he pulled out of Afghanistan(something everyone claimed to want!) and they "disapproved" of him for it.
45seconds Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 hour ago, loveisdead9582 said: No. He should have announced in the beginning that he wasn't running for re-election and let other candidates run and allow the constituents to vote in primaries. While I think that Kamala was a capable candidate, I don't know that she would have been the pick for president had we done things from scratch like a normal election. Too much bad will from her time as VP and also… misogyny Her loyalty to him is what did her in. She should have distanced herself a lot more .
loveisdead9582 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 12 minutes ago, 45seconds said: Her loyalty to him is what did her in. She should have distanced herself a lot more . I'm not arguing that. I truly think that if there had been an actual primary she wouldn't have been the democratic candidate for that very reason
Corso Posted November 6 Posted November 6 It would have been hard to deny Kamala the nomination because they would be called racist and risk alienating black voters.
Vermouth Posted November 6 Posted November 6 No. A case for the ages of a well intentioned old man who hung on too long and brought the whole thing crashing down. Almost King Lear in reality.
Stallo Posted November 6 Posted November 6 The democratic party needs a clean up. They need to simplify the message and actually be full on progressive. The moderate run of the mill corporate democrat is so tired. Enough of the stable and safe. Tim Walz was a good choice, but the VP is proven to have little election impact. And I hate to say it, but I have a strong feeling many Americans are just too sexist to vote for a woman. The R party has become a Trump-cult with even less dignity and actual political direction compared to before his revolution. They are changed forever, it will be interesting to see what the future brings when his time is over. Lets hope his administration rules more sensible than what he actually is. Good luck Americans, keep up the fight. 1
bielneira Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Hardly. Kamala's candidacy was the reason the Democratic party had hope.
G.U.Y. Gaga Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Joe shouldn't have ran at all. Kamala would have lost the primary but we would have someone separate from the current administration 1
Cruel Summer Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Hell to the **** no Kamala just had the most devastating Democratic loss in a generation. Biden would have had damn near the worst in history. It would have made Nixon's reelection look tame. 2
45seconds Posted November 6 Posted November 6 18 minutes ago, Corso said: It would have been hard to deny Kamala the nomination because they would be called racist and risk alienating black voters. You sound very dumb making that statement.
cOe Posted November 6 Posted November 6 No. He would flop soooo hard. Kamala had a chance. I remember in like February everyone was sure that the Democrats are completely chanceless
shimind Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Now that we think about it, would Michelle Obama have won? She knew it would be disastrous so she skipped this one out
Gottasadae Posted November 6 Posted November 6 He might have lost too but it wouldn't have been so sad but at this point we never know Anyway, many ppl here need a real reality check, since Kamala badly underperformed Biden in many crusial counties, she tanked even badly than Hillary, meanwhile Trump gained a lot. Dems are literally doomed, it's gonna be so hard to drain Trump $hit and be back on rails
X~MoviePoP Posted November 6 Author Posted November 6 1 hour ago, shimind said: DEMORATS ALONE are responsible for the Gaza massacre. Im so ******* happy they lost even though I'm a liberal by heart and rooted for Obama hillary and Biden. If Biden wanted, he could have stopped Israel from doing all that with just one phone call. **** ALL OF THEM. I'm glad trump won. Atleast he will work in a different way and maybe potentially stop the war altogether. This being all your caring about makes no sense. Especially when trump turns out to still back israel. You will end up regretting this
Corso Posted November 6 Posted November 6 6 minutes ago, 45seconds said: You sound very dumb making that statement. Sorry it hurts your feelings, but its true.
45seconds Posted November 6 Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, Corso said: Sorry it hurts your feelings, but its true. It is not true and you're incapable of hurting my feelings.
JBJT2786 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 hour ago, Bloo said: Biden was down in the polls in states like New Jersey. No, he wouldn't have won. Kamala's biggest mistake was saying she wouldn't be much different from Biden. The fact my state gave it Kamala by only 4.9 pts. Biden won by 15 in 2020. I saw Trump flags flying in houses near my job and I live and work in the most liberal areas in the state. Its bad folks.
JBJT2786 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 32 minutes ago, Corso said: It would have been hard to deny Kamala the nomination because they would be called racist and risk alienating black voters. Black voters were literally rejecting her at first. If we had another option, it probably would've been taken.
AvadaKedavra Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) Performed worse than Kamala. Everyone was laughing about him. He was seen as a senile old man by the whole planet. The democrats needed someone young-in the late 30s-40s-50s white very hot (So trump and vance are seen as ugly) and with charisma able to connect with all minorities and also the centrists and someone as deranged as trump. A troll. Someone able to hit all the conservatives with clapbacks Like a Madison Cawthorn but progressive We realized with these elections how America is highly racist and antiwomen. Democrats should play fire with fire. Edited November 6 by AvadaKedavra
SeeingStars1515 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 No - the US is dealing with a VERY difficult shroud of sexism, homo/transphobia, xenophobia, and economic insecurity. Biden would not have helped. Perhaps the ONLY thing that might have changed the outcome was Biden agreeing to step down sooner - before the debate- and a primary for Dems to rally behind a candidate not in the white house. People just dont see the successes of the Biden Admin (and there are many)
JC. Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 hours ago, shimind said: DEMORATS ALONE are responsible for the Gaza massacre. Im so ******* happy they lost even though I'm a liberal by heart and rooted for Obama hillary and Biden. If Biden wanted, he could have stopped Israel from doing all that with just one phone call. **** ALL OF THEM. I'm glad trump won. Atleast he will work in a different way and maybe potentially stop the war altogether. You mean the same Trump that said he wanted to deport Peaceful Pro-Palestine protesters?
X~MoviePoP Posted November 6 Author Posted November 6 2 hours ago, shimind said: DEMORATS ALONE are responsible for the Gaza massacre. Im so ******* happy they lost even though I'm a liberal by heart and rooted for Obama hillary and Biden. If Biden wanted, he could have stopped Israel from doing all that with just one phone call. **** ALL OF THEM. I'm glad trump won. Atleast he will work in a different way and maybe potentially stop the war altogether.
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