808dream Posted November 7 Posted November 7 21 hours ago, GAGAxMONSTER said: Are the "normal gays" not married/opposed to SSM? I guess that conservative gays who voted for Trump are not interested in marriage. They'd be much more worried if Trump wanted to shut darkrooms down. 1
Rotunda Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) 12 hours ago, mrpartyrocker said: Why are you acting so childish? Everyone is allowed to have his own opinion and in his opinion the gay marriage does not matter as much as other important issues that may have a direct impact on people. You being gay and wanting to be married doesn't stop you from living with a guy for the rest of your life. Relax That may not…but the reversal of Lawrence v. Texas, which effectively removed sodomy laws, would impact gay couples in the ~dozen states where sodomy is still banned through state law. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas Edited November 7 by Rotunda 2
prézli Posted November 7 Posted November 7 I'm sorry, but banning abortion is much worse than banning gay marriage... 1
MP3 Posted November 7 Posted November 7 Mark my words : he will not touch gay marriage at a federal level but might give it in the hands of local states government
Lose My Breath Posted November 7 Posted November 7 1 hour ago, MP3 said: Mark my words : he will not touch gay marriage at a federal level but might give it in the hands of local states government This doesn't make sense. It would have to be overturned federally for it to fall back to the states (ala Roe Vs Wade). Making it federally legal supersedes state law, and many states, including mine, would ban it and we'd be back to the same place as we were before, with no rights 1 1
Gottasadae Posted November 7 Posted November 7 Trump has absolute power now - House, Senate and SC, he literally can do whatever he wants at this point. Believe me, even some parts of maga will start realize the whole danger of his rotten brain.
Lose My Breath Posted November 7 Posted November 7 21 hours ago, mrpartyrocker said: Why are you acting so childish? Everyone is allowed to have his own opinion and in his opinion the gay marriage does not matter as much as other important issues that may have a direct impact on people. You being gay and wanting to be married doesn't stop you from living with a guy for the rest of your life. Relax I hate posts like this Prior to legal marriage, same sex couples weren't able to carry insurance on their spouses the majority of the time, leaving some without healthcare, or other job related benefits like life insurance through employers. It also aids in adoption for those wanting children. Government benefits for same sex couples didn't exist without legal marriage, for instance if your spouse dies, you can collect their SSI benefits when you're older if they made more money, as well as some insurance benefits. Also, you're not entitled to make healthcare decisions in emergent or ANY situation if you aren't legally married. This is HUGE. Imagine your partner is dying, and you have no say in ANY healthcare decisions, and it falls back to estranged family member? In the case of death, you pay taxes on your partners stuff if you aren't married. Could you imagine paying taxes on your own things, again? There are SO many important aspects to marriage. 7 1
AccioMiley Posted November 7 Posted November 7 Yes. Women, LGBT, old people with Medicare and SS, etc is all on the project 2025 to do list 2
Lose My Breath Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) duplicate post Edited November 7 by Lose My Breath
katykater Posted November 7 Posted November 7 On 11/6/2024 at 10:54 AM, Jude said: Why can't every country be like the progressive European countries? I can't fathom how this world works. Because European churches, governments, monarchies,... wanted the Christians to calm down and those opposing that (like the Puritans did) made the choice to migrate to America where they could do whatever religious fundamentalism they would like. The elections have opened the door for the Christian equivalent of the Sharia to be implemented in the US. After centuries of filtration: High concentration of calmed down people in Europe, church usage could drop below 10% and churches can be used for other purposes. High concentration of bat **** crazy people like Karens in the US. The people has voted for the Christian equivalent of the Sharia. 2
dawnettakins Posted November 7 Posted November 7 Even if they do nationally, that won't be the end of it and that doesn't stop states from keeping it legal in their jurisdictions. Some of yall are so defeatist and act like this is the end of life as we know it. It's not! States rights and laws matter too, and states are able to set their own path. I for one am just grateful to be in a sane, blue state where I knew these fundamental rights will be protected. And there are many states across the nation that will do the same. It's called federalism, and also the federal government does not have a monopoly on laws and legislation!
Illyboy Posted November 7 Posted November 7 According to an article from WP, it seems they are going for trans people first (which isn't a good thing either), I assume they would come for gays after them (but hopefully not)
RoyalT Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Obama should've made it into law instead of letting the SC to decide.
Hex Posted Friday at 03:05 PM Posted Friday at 03:05 PM 23 hours ago, prézli said: I'm sorry, but banning abortion is much worse than banning gay marriage... by far the most braindead post i've read today... why do we have to compare how bad both absolutely vile things are? Both have deadly consequences. 2 1
Hex Posted Friday at 03:07 PM Posted Friday at 03:07 PM 19 hours ago, dawnettakins said: Even if they do nationally, that won't be the end of it and that doesn't stop states from keeping it legal in their jurisdictions. Some of yall are so defeatist and act like this is the end of life as we know it. It's not! States rights and laws matter too, and states are able to set their own path. I for one am just grateful to be in a sane, blue state where I knew these fundamental rights will be protected. And there are many states across the nation that will do the same. It's called federalism, and also the federal government does not have a monopoly on laws and legislation! Me too... but you really can't blame people for being terrified. Millions of LGBT Americans live in red states and can't afford the luxury of up and moving to a blue state. It's completely tone deaf to just dismiss this as "don't be defeatist! Everyone in New York/LA/etc will be ok!" 3
MattieB Posted Friday at 06:28 PM Posted Friday at 06:28 PM With what's coming, that should be the least of your worries 2
MattieB Posted Friday at 06:30 PM Posted Friday at 06:30 PM 3 hours ago, Hex said: by far the most braindead post i've read today... why do we have to compare how bad both absolutely vile things are? Both have deadly consequences. What deadly consequences does banning gay marriage bring? Imagine being this privileged
Hex Posted Friday at 06:37 PM Posted Friday at 06:37 PM 3 minutes ago, MattieB said: What deadly consequences does banning gay marriage bring? Imagine being this privileged Privileged? You think my concern that this will lead to higher rates of suicide, metal health crisis, drug and alcohol abuse, etc. is... privileged? LGBT children seeing that they are NOT equal in the eyes of the law. That they don't have the same protections and taking their own lives. Especially those in red states. God forbid I am terrified for the LGBT people of this country. The privilege YOU possess to not be concerned with this. 1 1
MattieB Posted Friday at 06:55 PM Posted Friday at 06:55 PM 13 minutes ago, Hex said: Privileged? You think my concern that this will lead to higher rates of suicide, metal health crisis, drug and alcohol abuse, etc. is... privileged? LGBT children seeing that they are NOT equal in the eyes of the law. That they don't have the same protections and taking their own lives. Especially those in red states. God forbid I am terrified for the LGBT people of this country. The privilege YOU possess to not be concerned with this. I'm from an african country where being gay gets you prison sentenceand/or death so once again I ask What deadly consequences does banning gay marriage bring? 3 1
Raphy23 Posted Friday at 08:23 PM Posted Friday at 08:23 PM 1 hour ago, MattieB said: With what's coming, that should be the least of your worries Sad truth
ttsmu Posted Friday at 08:49 PM Posted Friday at 08:49 PM I know a lesbian couple from Texas (both from Mexican parents), that voted for Trump. And I know that there's tons of similar cases all around the US. I wouldn't be sad if their marriage is overturn or their family members get deported. That's what they voted for.
Hex Posted Friday at 09:52 PM Posted Friday at 09:52 PM 2 hours ago, MattieB said: I'm from an african country where being gay gets you prison sentenceand/or death so once again I ask What deadly consequences does banning gay marriage bring? That is terrible and I feel awful for you. A pity you belittle others who fear of the terrible reality you face. You can re-read my post or you can project onto someone who is on your side because you are angry at the world. 2
Ichinaru19 Posted Friday at 10:33 PM Posted Friday at 10:33 PM On 11/7/2024 at 2:39 PM, dawnettakins said: Even if they do nationally, that won't be the end of it and that doesn't stop states from keeping it legal in their jurisdictions. Some of yall are so defeatist and act like this is the end of life as we know it. It's not! States rights and laws matter too, and states are able to set their own path. I for one am just grateful to be in a sane, blue state where I knew these fundamental rights will be protected. And there are many states across the nation that will do the same. It's called federalism, and also the federal government does not have a monopoly on laws and legislation! And there are states that will not.
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