base talk Mariah vs Madonna: In the 90's

[Josh]

Madonna:

 

Mariah:

[livelikemusic]

Madonna for both for me.

[bielneira]

Mariah Carey >

[Sailor Moon]

daydream and butterfly alone >>>

 

mariah really came through with quality back to back like that, with full on polished albums and great tracks beside singles.

[liquidlove]

If Madonna didn't release anything it would be Mimi

[MP3]

90's Madonna: Innovation, risk, versatility, daring, audacious, courageous, brave, epic and other synonyms

 

90's Mariah:

[MP3]

2 minutes ago, nostalgic said:

If Bedtime Stories & Ray of Light didn't exist, it would be Mimi 

Erotica era says hello

[Pop Life]

Mariah had a more consistent commercial singles run but she got it by playing safe. Madonna on the other hand experimented a great deal throughout the 90s and her album high points clear every Mariah album that decade except maybe Butterfly. Erotica and Ray of Light 

Edited November 1 by Pop Life

[Kern]

It was Madonna and you know it Josh 

[Venice B]

Mariah was way bigger in the 90's and even though she released one of my favorite songs ever (Honey) Madonna had such strong singles like Vogue and Bedtime Story alone CLEAR everything else so I'll go with Madonna for both 

[MerveAksak]

Madonna ofc. Ray of Light and erotica alone>>>>

[Popboi.]

Erotica + Ray of Light are instant winners. Adore Butterfly and Daydream but...

[Capris Groove]

Mariah got a bit samey for me towards the end of the 90s. The chorus of Honey sounds exactly like the chorus of Dreamlover (and same for Heartbreaker which came later). She had some great stuff but Madonna was in her creative prime.

 

To go from 80s-sounding pop in I'm Breathless to Erotica to Bedtime Stories through her adult contemporary era to Ray of Light is astonishing. And incredibly diverse. And that's before the visuals.

 

Madonna.

[suburbannature]

21 minutes ago, MP3 said:

90's Madonna: Innovation, risk, versatility, daring, audacious, courageous, brave, epic and other synonyms

 

90's Mariah:

An absolutely insane thing to say about arguably the most influential woman of the decade who redefined genres and remixes, changed singing in popular music (whether via complex melisma or whistle), popularized pop/hip hop collabs, brought a new wave of holiday music in popular music, inspired generations of vocalists, and whose songwriting is on a completely different level. Madonna is obviously Madonna, but it is ridiculous to diminish Mariah's well-documented influence and impact on modern music and the quality of her albums and remixes

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_impact_of_Mariah_Carey

[flame_notturno]

Love them both.

Madonna had strong album content but poor single choices, hence the points to Mariah.

Seriously tho, Madonna's deep cuts, demos and b-sides from this decade are phenomenal.

[suburbannature]

8 minutes ago, Capris Groove said:

Mariah got a bit samey for me towards the end of the 90s. The chorus of Honey sounds exactly like the chorus of Dreamlover (and same for Heartbreaker which came later). She had some great stuff but Madonna was in her creative prime.

 

To go from 80s-sounding pop in I'm Breathless to Erotica to Bedtime Stories through her adult contemporary era to Ray of Light is astonishing. And incredibly diverse. And that's before the visuals.

 

Madonna.

Honey and Dreamlover choruses are not similar in melodic structure or tempo   I guess you meant Heartbreaker and Dreamlover. But yeah, she actually wrote both. 
 

 

Mariah's sound only seems familiar now because SHE popularized it and redefined genres. 

[MP3]

2 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

An absolutely insane thing to say about arguably the most influential woman of the decade who redefined genres and remixes, changed singing in popular music (whether via complex melisma or whistle), popularized pop/hip hop collabs, brought a new wave of holiday music in popular music, inspired generations of vocalists, and whose songwriting is on a completely different level. Madonna is obviously Madonna, but it is ridiculous to diminish Mariah's well-documented influence and impact on modern music and the quality of her albums and remixes

I'm very sorry but you could show me a picture of Mariah in the 90's and I couldn't say if it's from 1991, 1997, 1993, 1999 or 1992

[suburbannature]

2 minutes ago, MP3 said:

I'm very sorry but you could show me a picture of Mariah in the 90's and I couldn't say if it's from 1991, 1997, 1993, 1999 or 1992

If you can't tell 1990 Mariah from 1997 Mariah then get a vision test?

 

Also completely irrelevant to what I said.

[MP3]

11 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

An absolutely insane thing to say about arguably the most influential woman of the decade who redefined genres and remixes, changed singing in popular music (whether via complex melisma or whistle), popularized pop/hip hop collabs, brought a new wave of holiday music in popular music, inspired generations of vocalists, and whose songwriting is on a completely different level. Madonna is obviously Madonna, but it is ridiculous to diminish Mariah's well-documented influence and impact on modern music and the quality of her albums and remixes

[LikeATattoo]

8 minutes ago, MP3 said:

I'm very sorry but you could show me a picture of Mariah in the 90's and I couldn't say if it's from 1991, 1997, 1993, 1999 or 1992

Even if this weren't an objectively stupid thing to say, what relevance does an artist's styling have to the actual music?

[MP3]

1 minute ago, LikeATattoo said:

Even if this weren't an objectively stupid thing to say, what relevance does an artist's styling have to the actual music?

I'm very sorry but you could make me listen to a song of Mariah in the 90's and I couldn't say if it's from 1991, 1997, 1993, 1999 or 1992

[stevyy]

Only a Madonna fan would totally and completely deny the creative and musical impact of Mariah Carey in the 1990s. 

 

Sounds very MAGA to me. 

[WEEKND]

I adore both but Ray of light is a better album than anything MC has ever released 

[MP3]

8 minutes ago, stevyy said:

Only a Madonna fan would totally and completely deny the creative and musical impact of Mariah Carey in the 1990s. 

 

Sounds very MAGA to me. 

The truth is one is still remembered as the pioneer of modern female music and the other one as the whistling shady Christmas chanteuse

 

 

[stevyy]

4 minutes ago, MP3 said:

The truth is one is still remembered as the pioneer of modern female music and the other one as the whistling shady Christmas chanteuse

 

 

every further comment only further proves my point.