Breathe On Moi Posted October 20 Posted October 20 30 minutes ago, mons†er said: It's wild how non-American's have so much time to criticize us. and that's the biggest take away, they will continue to live their lives whatever it is that happens with this election, they will not be directly affected, since they do not live here. 8 1 12
Windy Day Posted October 20 Posted October 20 49 minutes ago, mons†er said: It's wild how non-American's have so much time to criticize us. What you don't understand is there are certain powers and influences that as American's we cannot impact and have been trying to change for years. What else you don't seem to realize is politics in the U.S. has forever and will forever be about choosing the lesser of two evils. No politician will ever be able to unite us as a nation or make all of us happy. Also, to be a successful politician you have to do some really terrible things and lose your ethics. Always remember with how much yall criticize non-American's we are a lot more free than other countries, have more resources and still have immigrants migrating here for a better life. americans have more freedom than other countries but don't have the freedom to chose between more than two candidates who are "both evil"? 1 2 12 1
Letemtalk Posted October 20 Posted October 20 1 hour ago, mons†er said: It's wild how non-American's have so much time to criticize us. What you don't understand is there are certain powers and influences that as American's we cannot impact and have been trying to change for years. What else you don't seem to realize is politics in the U.S. has forever and will forever be about choosing the lesser of two evils. No politician will ever be able to unite us as a nation or make all of us happy. Also, to be a successful politician you have to do some really terrible things and lose your ethics. Always remember with how much yall criticize non-American's we are a lot more free than other countries, have more resources and still have immigrants migrating here for a better life. You make it sound as if Americans adults are infants, only capable of making gurgling sounds and soiling their pants. Surely American adults can see how terrible US media is and look elsewhere? Israeli media are often terribly biased, but sometimes far more honest than CNN. For example on Haaretz you'll find evidence that it was Netanyahu who attempted to block every hostage deal. Not sure if this story has appeared on mainstream US media, or if it will ever appear there. No one other than Americans are responsible for their biased media, terrible political parties, terrible candidates and voting systems. So now you are heading into an election and many Americans will vote for genocide. But you won't take responsibility for it will you? You'll blame it on someone else. 11 1
Princess Aurora Posted October 20 Posted October 20 I still don't understand why the US engages in these wars with no benefits. Like Why? 1 1 1
Namie-Knowles Posted October 20 Posted October 20 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Windy Day said: americans have more freedom than other countries Not you believing the lie white rich men told you. I thought we were all on the same page about the state of this country and what is reality or are we pretending this is not the case for critique? Edited October 20 by Namie-Knowles 1
Princess Aurora Posted October 20 Posted October 20 23 minutes ago, Letemtalk said: You make it sound as if Americans adults are infants, only capable of making gurgling sounds and soiling their pants. Surely American adults can see how terrible US media is and look elsewhere? Israeli media are often terribly biased, but sometimes far more honest than CNN. For example on Haaretz you'll find evidence that that it was Netanyahu who attempted to block every hostage deal. Not sure if this story has appeared on mainstream US media, or if it will ever appear there. No one other than Americans are responsible for their biased media, terrible political parties, terrible candidates and voting systems. So now you are heading into an election and many Americans will vote for genocide. But you won't take responsibility for it will you? You'll blame it on someone else. I mean, have you ever noticed how messed up US history is? They fought a war over slavery and that is only the tip of the iceberg.....
Stankonia Posted October 20 Author Posted October 20 19 minutes ago, Princess Aurora said: I still don't understand why the US engages in these wars with no benefits. Like Why? With no benefits? Girl 1
Princess Aurora Posted October 20 Posted October 20 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Stankonia said: With no benefits? Girl Well, where are the benefits then? For example, the Iraq war was a mess and triggered the 2008 financial crisis so. Edited October 20 by Princess Aurora
Dancehall Queen Posted October 20 Posted October 20 As someone who lives in PA I have to vote for her, but it's probably the least enthusiastic vote I've ever cast. I just avoid the election as a topic because I do not publicly support her. 1 hour ago, shimind said: Can't she shut her mouth till the election day. It's only making a way for trump That was the strategy until she started slipping in the polls. 1
DAP Posted October 20 Posted October 20 She speaks like she's trying to convince herself than anyone else. 1 1 1
DAP Posted October 20 Posted October 20 4 hours ago, dussel_06 said: I don't support this woman but I hope she still wins. We have no choice. It's like your parents are getting divorce and you're made to choose between an alcoholic mother and a sexually abusive father. I mean, most people would choose nobody in that situation so 3 6 1
Stankonia Posted October 20 Author Posted October 20 9 minutes ago, Princess Aurora said: Well, where are the benefits then? For example, the Iraq war was a mess and triggered the 2008 financial crisis so. Why the war in Iraq was fought for Big Oil https://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/iraq-war-oil-juhasz/index.html As for Israel, they are an imperialist outpost and act as the US' watchdog in the middle east. Without them the US doesn't have nearly as much geopolitical control over the region and access to natural ressources. Hence the unconditional support.
Princess Aurora Posted October 20 Posted October 20 3 minutes ago, Stankonia said: Why the war in Iraq was fought for Big Oil https://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/iraq-war-oil-juhasz/index.html As for Israel, they are an imperialist outpost and act as the US' watchdog in the middle east. Without them the US doesn't have nearly as much geopolitical control over the region and access to natural ressources. Hence the unconditional support. and yet it was a failure.....also If the US control of the Middle East was so successful, the situation wouldn't end up like this, right?. Let's be honest that the US involvement in the middle east was a huge mess with no benefits in the end.
Letemtalk Posted October 20 Posted October 20 31 minutes ago, Princess Aurora said: Well, where are the benefits then? For example, the Iraq war was a mess and triggered the 2008 financial crisis so. Billions of $$$ from the US taxpayer get sent to Israel, but this military aid has to be spent on US arms and other military equipment, which means the money comes back to companies like Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon and General Dynamics. Of course a percentage of this finds it's way back to politicians campaign funding and this is in addition to support from pro Israel lobby groups like AIPAC. Quote On average, House members who voted to authorize $886 billion in military spending took four times more money from military contractors than members who voted against the bill. Senators who supported the NDAA took five times more arms industry cash than the senators who opposed it. Quote The top earner of military contractor cash so far in the 2024 Senate election cycle is Jack Reed (D-R.I.), who has raked in more than $590,000 in campaign and PAC contributions from military contractors. Senator Reed is chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee. Coming in second is Ranking Member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Roger Wicker (R-Miss.). Senator Wicker has accepted more than $534,000 in political donations from the military industry this election cycle. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/congress-ndaa-vote/ The children dying in Gaza and Lebanon are part of pipeline that takes funds from the taxpayer and rewards the arms makers and the politicians who approve the budgets.
Princess Aurora Posted October 20 Posted October 20 6 minutes ago, Letemtalk said: Billions of $$$ from the US taxpayer get sent to Israel, but this military aid has to be spent on US arms and other military equipment, which means the money comes back to companies like Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon and General Dynamics. Of course a percentage of this finds it's way back to politicians campaign funding and this is in addition to support from pro Israel lobby groups like AIPAC. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/congress-ndaa-vote/ The children dying in Gaza and Lebanon are part of pipeline that takes funds from the taxpayer and rewards the arms makers and the politicians who approve the budgets. So in other words it's a lose-lose situation then? That confirms my question
satellites.™ Posted October 20 Posted October 20 4 hours ago, Miley Cyrus said: Michigan vote for Jill Stein Who is backed by the KKK, comments like this are why I DONT feel like everyone else in this thread does, you guys pick and choose which genocides to throw your weight behind. hypocrites. KAMALA 2024! 1 1 10
Windy Day Posted October 20 Posted October 20 1 hour ago, Namie-Knowles said: Not you believing the lie white rich men told you. I thought we were all on the same page about the state of this country and what is reality or are we pretending this is not the case for critique? what…?
dussel_06 Posted October 20 Posted October 20 1 hour ago, DAP said: I mean, most people would choose nobody in that situation so And when you have smaller siblings that has no choice but to be under custody of either one of them, what now? You still don't vote? Because one of them is taking custody whether you like it or not. 1
Tovitov Posted October 20 Posted October 20 Kamala has all but given up on trying to win over Muslim voters or voters whose main issue is Israel and Gaza. She made the choice to not buck Biden and not shift against Israel. If she loses because there were enough of these voters to flip a bunch of swing states, than that's on her. But I'm still voting for her and all I can do is hope she's better on the issue while she's in office because we know for a fact Trump wont be. 4
TeemoR Posted October 20 Posted October 20 36 minutes ago, satellites.™ said: Who is backed by the KKK, comments like this are why I DONT feel like everyone else in this thread does, you guys pick and choose which genocides to throw your weight behind. hypocrites. KAMALA 2024! so because we are against a certain genocide, that makes us hypocrites for only picking one? It's not like we are supporting another genocide, wtf. 1
Green Posted October 20 Posted October 20 6 hours ago, CaptainMusic said: Ridiculous, it's like she's trying to lose Why? In reality most americans support what she's saying so 1
TeemoR Posted October 20 Posted October 20 11 minutes ago, Tovitov said: Kamala has all but given up on trying to win over Muslim voters or voters whose main issue is Israel and Gaza. She made the choice to not buck Biden and not shift against Israel. If she loses because there were enough of these voters to flip a bunch of swing states, than that's on her. But I'm still voting for her and all I can do is hope she's better on the issue while she's in office because we know for a fact Trump wont be. The problem (among many others) is that her answers are so structured and calculated. She is not even honest. We don't even know what her true feelings are about this war. She's just saying what she is instructed to say. They are all playing games.
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