lhdang2000 Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 8 hours ago, Fruity said: You could argue that they arent popular of their own right. The ALBUM is popular and its release causes album tracks to chart high. That doesn't matter, you are taking that by your personal emotions rather than by facts. I don't care if they come from a parrticular album, if they have high streaming number and people are interested in them enough to buy them singularly, thus, make them earn their places on the chart, they should be on the chart.
UNNAMI Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 7 hours ago, Communion said: So a song could be released as a promo track and take OFF like Dark Horse and Love Yourself, but it shouldn't chart no matter how high it should be if it isn't deemed yet as an official single in your view? its like they are taking back to u.s. 2004. when song wasn't released as single it couldn't chart at hot 100. and Don't Speak by No Doubt was like 16 weeks number one in radio so it would probably had like 10 or more #1s at hot 100.
pablozedd Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 7 hours ago, nathanspears said: That makes no sense? What if an album has 4 singles? The rule doesn't affect singles I think. I just don't know if they're gonna care if the single is the artist's current one or if it was a single in the past. What I undestood is that all singles gonna chart normally, the rule only affects album tracks. This will be bad for promo singles tho, its always good to have a cute debut on a chart, guess its not happening anymore.
pablozedd Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 36 minutes ago, UNNAMI said: its like they are taking back to u.s. 2004. when song wasn't released as single it couldn't chart at hot 100. and Don't Speak by No Doubt was like 16 weeks number one in radio so it would probably had like 10 or more #1s at hot 100. Something like that also happened to Madonna's Into the Groove. It was a B-side of another single of hers and B-sides could not chart. It was well played on the radio and was huge success all around the world (#1 in the UK and Australia) but could not chart in the US due to the rule
Phuccery, Inc. Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Wonderland said: A very good rule. New Zealand led the way on this change after the Ed Sheeran mess. I'm so sick of chart experts saying this is a bad rule. This is literally double dipping with the album chart and riding the popularity of an album to the top 10 of the singles chart. It's astoundingly unfair and I'm glad they're amending it. Yes songs used to manage it via sales but that's a much more valid reason than to reward a specific song for being played in a collective piece. Furthermore the rule was ruining albums. I'm sick of these 20 track "albums" being used to rack up streaming points and chart entries. ALL of this
Yog Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Wonderland said: A very good rule. New Zealand led the way on this change after the Ed Sheeran mess. I'm so sick of chart experts saying this is a bad rule. This is literally double dipping with the album chart and riding the popularity of an album to the top 10 of the singles chart. It's astoundingly unfair and I'm glad they're amending it. Yes songs used to manage it via sales but that's a much more valid reason than to reward a specific song for being played in a collective piece. Furthermore the rule was ruining albums. I'm sick of these 20 track "albums" being used to rack up streaming points and chart entries. , I don't see why people are upset over this, it not like it affects their coins and all actuality, this sounds pretty fair to me. Deal with it Edited June 23, 2017 by Yog
Pink Ranger Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 10 hours ago, shark_heather said: I don't get it . only 3 songs are allowed from an album at the same time ? Or in general ? Like if the artist releases a 4th single it wont chart ? And for example now Little Mix they have Shout out , Touch , No more sad songs and Power charting What are they gonna do ? remove one of the three ? and which one ? And if they release another single it wont chart until there are only 2 charting ? Or the lowest one will be automatically removed ? I think this hopefully counts for when an artist releases their album week so the Ed thing doesn't happen again it would be stupid for them to do this to people releasing singles regardless if it's the 5th single like it's a single so it should count for the charts regardless
Communion Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Yog said: , I don't see why people are upset over this, it not like it affects their coins and all actuality, this sounds pretty fair to me. Deal with it ...because it makes the chart inaccurate? lmaoo tf?
Adonis Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 12 hours ago, Hector said: Thoughts? At least the chart won't be peddled with Bieber, Ed, and Drake songs anymore. It's not accurate though. I thought the goal was to be accurate about the popularity of songs.
HEARTCORE Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) Quote The Official Singles Chart is being updated from early July, with the introduction of new rules to help support new music and breaking artists. The changes are designed to ensure the chart continues to be a showcase for the new hits and talent which are the lifeblood of UK music. The key change will be to allow artists to have only their 3 most popular tracks (based on sales and streams) to feature in the Official Singles Chart Top 100. The move will make it easier for new hits and artists to feature in the chart by preventing multiple tracks from popular artists dominating the singles chart. The move will minimise double-counting of album tracks between the Official Singles and Albums Charts and make the two charts more distinct. The new changes are expected to boost the number of chart hits by around 10%. An additional adjustment will see the introduction of a new streaming ratio for older tracks which are well past their peak and in steep, prolonged decline. The aim of both changes will be to support new talent, giving new hits the freedom to progress up the chart, without being inhibited by older tracks which have passed their peak, or album tracks by big name artists. http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/new-rules-to-be-introduced-to-the-official-singles-chart-from-july-2017__19501/ These New Rules are a good sign Edited June 26, 2017 by HEARTCORE
Green Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 You can tell the labels pressured them to make this change
alexanderao Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 AP https://atrl.net/forums/topic/48889-uk-chart-rule-change-only-3-album-tracks-can-chart/ The incompetence of the Official Charts Company is simply stunning.
ATRL Moderator Samson Posted June 26, 2017 ATRL Moderator Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) Quote The key change will be to allow artists to have only their 3 most popular tracks (based on sales and streams) to feature in the Official Singles Chart Top 100. not even just from one album? it's overall? oh jeez Quote An additional adjustment will see the introduction of a new streaming ratio for older tracks which are well past their peak and in steep, prolonged decline. oh **** OFF they just add a ****ing recurrent rule already if streaming is bothering them so much. guess that means RIP Mr Brightside on the charts Edited June 26, 2017 by Yndda
Supervillain Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 I thought this thread would be about Dua's song
HEARTCORE Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Callum said: AP where 3 minutes ago, Supervillain said: I thought this thread would be about Dua's song I got her that promo in the op tho
J a y Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, Supervillain said: I thought this thread would be about Dua's song I'm with you on that, just streamed it as well. Ot: Here for variety, diversity etc. You may not love it now but you will.
swissman Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 So like if an artist has a song at let’s say, #3, #5, #15 and #20, and another artist’s song is at #100, that #20 song is eliminated just to get the other one to #100? Seems odd, and completely erasing actual hits that this chart is supposed to document. I suppose that if that #20 song is a feature for that artist, that it relates to the main artist not just the artist appearing in multiple spots?
katykater Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 This shall prevent artists from sharting on the charts by throwing all the album tracks at it.
Callum Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 20 minutes ago, HEARTCORE said: where https://atrl.net/forums/topic/48889-uk-chart-rule-change-only-3-album-tracks-can-chart/
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