Communion Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 This is literally stupid. I see the older anti-streaming crowd whined hard enough.
Jaay Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Eh. Drake, Bieber, and Ed songs are all throughout the charts because they are the most popular. This isn't going to represent what's the most popular in the UK anymore.
mike3009 Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Hmm, kinda unnecessary. Yes, Ed was clogging up the charts, but after all his album tracks were selling and being streamed more than actual singles, so can't say it's undeserved. A Billboard recurrent tea.
doonerr Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 It should be a singles chart. Not a songs chart. Same goes for the Hot 100
Marco_g2 Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, doonerr said: It should be a singles chart. Not a songs chart. Same goes for the Hot 100 Basically, but then how do you define a "single" ?
Fruity Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, Marco_g2 said: Basically, but then how do you define a "single" ? Sent to radio
Communion Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, Fruity said: Sorry but this is not what we want "Supermarket flowers" should not be a top 10 hit in the UK People were listening to the album as a whole, not that song as a single entity Supermarket Flowers was #14 on sales alone. You're literally cutting out some of the most purchased and streamed songs by doing this.
Communion Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, Fruity said: Sent to radio So a song could be released as a promo track and take OFF like Dark Horse and Love Yourself, but it shouldn't chart no matter how high it should be if it isn't deemed yet as an official single in your view?
Marco_g2 Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 I don't know that to think about this rule, it seems to take away from credibility, but..... back in the day album sales didn't put all the album tracks on the singles chart either. But see what happened the week Dutch famous rapper Boef released his album (same week as Drake released More Life) http://www.dutchcharts.nl/weekchart.asp?cat=s&date=20170325&year=2017
Fruity Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, Communion said: So a song could be released as a promo track and take OFF like Dark Horse and Love Yourself, but it shouldn't chart no matter how high it should be if it isn't deemed yet as an official single in your view? No lol I wouldn't want that. But in reality if something was taking off organically like Dark Horse + Love Yourself, they make it a single anyway so it's a non issue. I don't think this rule is perfect! But like somebody said it is a singles chart, not a song chart.
Ichinaru19 Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 DUMB RULE. Why should they not include songs if they are able to chart higher than other songs? Stupid. Billboard better take notes of how NOT to do it.
Marco_g2 Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 What if an album gets an official 4th single? (ex. Water Under The Bridge)
doonerr Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Communion said: So a song could be released as a promo track and take OFF like Dark Horse and Love Yourself, but it shouldn't chart no matter how high it should be if it isn't deemed yet as an official single in your view? What does that have to do with anything? They will chart as soon as they are out on radio, and they will have a sales advantage towards the other songs, since they were already doing so well without airplay exposure Edited June 22, 2017 by doonerr
BravoTangoWhiskey Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 I think it's good. Like I didn't even hear One Dance until like a year after its release but it was apparently slaying the charts here. If I want to listen to the chart show on a Sunday evening, I don't want to listen to an Ed Sheeran album. I remember listening to the charts when Beiber was slaying and it was so monotonous. Let's see how good this is though.
igetfilthy Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 This is a dumb rule. They should just add airplay and video views to make it harder for album tracks to chart. Not completely limit 3 songs at a time!
Starkboy Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, Marco_g2 said: What if an album gets an official 4th single? (ex. Water Under The Bridge) If all the four singles are charting, I think it won't be charting until it's higher than 3rd biggest single atm
Jaay Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Eh. Drake, Bieber, and Ed songs are all throughout the charts because they are the most popular. This isn't going to represent what's the most popular in the UK anymore.
doonerr Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Marco_g2 said: What if an album gets an official 4th single? (ex. Water Under The Bridge) All the singles are eligible to chart. Just not album tracks. There's a difference
Communion Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Fruity said: No lol I wouldn't want that. But in reality if something was taking off organically like Dark Horse + Love Yourself, they make it a single anyway so it's a non issue. I don't think this rule is perfect! But like somebody said it is a singles chart, not a song chart. And in the age of streaming, the public choose the singles. This is literally old people complaining because of a technology gap making their tastes even more irrelevant and wanting everything on the chart to be attached to some CD-single. Again, Ed's songs ALSO charted due to sales alone. 1. Shape Of You 3. Galway Girl 4. Castle On The Hill 7. Perfect14. Supermarket Flowers 17. How Would You Feel? 21. Dive 24. Happier 30. New Man 31. Nancy Mulligan 37. What Do I Know 39. Save Myself 40. Barcelona 42. Bibia Be Ye Ye 50. Hearts Don’t Break Around Here That's the sales-only chart. By this rule, everything bold would have be banned from charting. The #14 most purchased song would be blocked from the chart. So what's the point in the chart then? It literally incentivizes people to not buy songs anymore if their purchases are banned from a chart by arbitrary reasoning. Edited June 22, 2017 by Communion
istan4badgalriri Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 The UK charts are becoming a huge mess First their SPS formula for the album chart, now this
SebaMonster Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Stupid rule. They should just include video streams...
FanOfPop Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 So basically whichever three songs gets the most points they will chart. Is this only for the release week of every week?
Marco_g2 Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, doonerr said: All the singles are eligible to chart. Just not album tracks. There's a difference What makes this difference? Airplay?
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