charts discussion HDD: Charli & Jelly Roll are going head to head trying to get numbers thrown out

[Polgg48]

the glo demand is visible, she is here to stay

[soulsearcher]

11 hours ago, Blue Monday said:

None of Charli's fans need or crave for her to put up big numbers (as evidenced by her pre-BRAT career) but it's genuinely exciting to see an artist who has been at this for a decade+ on the fringe of the mainstream hit a new peak; fans celebrating that is not the same as refuting the truly stupid comparison y'all keep trying to make between Taylor and Charli because you're threatened by the fact she dominated the cultural conversation in a way TPPD did not (despite the latter having stronger numbers). Please miss me with the cognitive dissonance and disingenuous comparison

Tell that the biggest album of the year. Nobody talked about this album and it wasn't as culturally huge as you would like it to be 

[Blue Monday]

1 hour ago, soulsearcher said:

Tell that the biggest album of the year. Nobody talked about this album and it wasn't as culturally huge as you would like it to be 

The BRAT branding was quite literally reference and adopted by the Harris campaign which is huge for an artist of Charli's caliber, but keep telling yourself that. 

[NEUTRON]

so proud of my girl Charli. been riding with this hooker since Super Ultra

[soulsearcher]

1 hour ago, Blue Monday said:

The BRAT branding was quite literally reference and adopted by the Harris campaign which is huge for an artist of Charli's caliber, but keep telling yourself that. 

And that means that TTPD wasn't huge when it sold 2,6 Million in first week? And why are some of you ALWAYS bring up Taylor in this?

[soulsearcher]

The fact that some people can't go a day without mentioning Taylor Swifts name is SO funny to me.

[xluvxduffxmusicx]

It's a cute week.

[State of Grace.]

The way Charli's success has certain people here spiraling is hilarious 

 

Huge numbers though. It deserved a new peak, but it's a busy week.

[BlueBlue]

Half of the popular music industry twitter support memes and only 3rd place? HAHA 

Edited October 16 by BlueBlue

[Blue Monday]

8 hours ago, soulsearcher said:

And that means that TTPD wasn't huge when it sold 2,6 Million in first week? And why are some of you ALWAYS bring up Taylor in this?

I'm pretty sure that I already acknowledged that TTPD's sales obviously dwarf Brat's but Brat wins in the cultural conversation.

 

I also didn't bring up Taylor so you can miss me with that; I was initially responding to a Swiftie who was coming at Charli's fans for celebrating Brat's sales. The victim card is extremely tired 

[soulsearcher]

4 hours ago, Blue Monday said:

I'm pretty sure that I already acknowledged that TTPD's sales obviously dwarf Brat's but Brat wins in the cultural conversation.

 

I also didn't bring up Taylor so you can miss me with that; I was initially responding to a Swiftie who was coming at Charli's fans for celebrating Brat's sales. The victim card is extremely tired 

Sure, if you say that it was. Some of you still downplay Taylors success. Thats also very tiring. 

[soulsearcher]

We all know who the bigger artist is and who has way more cultural significance. 

[Wicked]

On 10/15/2024 at 6:00 PM, like2throw said:

Yoo her career trajectory is pretty wild when you think about it.
 

Like she had a number one song literally this time ten years ago with Boom Clap, went the alt pop route, defined her sound, and perfected it 10 years later with this record. 

My gosh I ain't seen you in years, hope all it well.

 

OT: I got my brat remix CD. Good ****.

[Malkuth]

How can we really talk about cultural significance? We don't have a mono-culture anymore, it's kind of impossible to claim it.

 

Charli XCX had enormous impact in certain parts of the Internet, and was the biggest thing that happened this year for millions of people in music. But there are 10s of millions of people who don't know about her.

 

Similar goes for Taylor Swift. She has millions of fans to whom she is the biggest thing ever and the center of the world, but if I didnt use ATRL or social media I wouldn't have ever known about her recent tour, for example.

 

There are sub-cultures out there who you don't interact with, don't notice, and feel no affinity with whatsoever who think Try That In A Small Town is the biggest pop music moment of the decade.

 

I just don't think you can talk about "cultural impact" anymore. It's more about noteriety within certain websites, demographics, fanbases, etc. The brat summer thing feels more like a movement, if anything. I work in a gay bar and it's a frequent topic of conversation there, but I walk anywhere outside of work and everybody is just like "???". So yeah, it's a big moment, but cultural impact I would say is not the correct term. It feels more like some secret little (big) subculture, if anything.

[soulsearcher]

1 hour ago, Malkuth said:

How can we really talk about cultural significance? We don't have a mono-culture anymore, it's kind of impossible to claim it.

 

Charli XCX had enormous impact in certain parts of the Internet, and was the biggest thing that happened this year for millions of people in music. But there are 10s of millions of people who don't know about her.

 

Similar goes for Taylor Swift. She has millions of fans to whom she is the biggest thing ever and the center of the world, but if I didnt use ATRL or social media I wouldn't have ever known about her recent tour, for example.

 

There are sub-cultures out there who you don't interact with, don't notice, and feel no affinity with whatsoever who think Try That In A Small Town is the biggest pop music moment of the decade.

 

I just don't think you can talk about "cultural impact" anymore. It's more about noteriety within certain websites, demographics, fanbases, etc. The brat summer thing feels more like a movement, if anything. I work in a gay bar and it's a frequent topic of conversation there, but I walk anywhere outside of work and everybody is just like "???". So yeah, it's a big moment, but cultural impact I would say is not the correct term. It feels more like some secret little (big) subculture, if anything.

This tour was all over the World newd.  To say that just her fanbase knows about this tour is plain stupid. If you watch mainstream media you will know about this tour.

[soulsearcher]

1 hour ago, Malkuth said:

How can we really talk about cultural significance? We don't have a mono-culture anymore, it's kind of impossible to claim it.

 

Charli XCX had enormous impact in certain parts of the Internet, and was the biggest thing that happened this year for millions of people in music. But there are 10s of millions of people who don't know about her.

 

Similar goes for Taylor Swift. She has millions of fans to whom she is the biggest thing ever and the center of the world, but if I didnt use ATRL or social media I wouldn't have ever known about her recent tour, for example.

 

There are sub-cultures out there who you don't interact with, don't notice, and feel no affinity with whatsoever who think Try That In A Small Town is the biggest pop music moment of the decade.

 

I just don't think you can talk about "cultural impact" anymore. It's more about noteriety within certain websites, demographics, fanbases, etc. The brat summer thing feels more like a movement, if anything. I work in a gay bar and it's a frequent topic of conversation there, but I walk anywhere outside of work and everybody is just like "???". So yeah, it's a big moment, but cultural impact I would say is not the correct term. It feels more like some secret little (big) subculture, if anything.

And considering that so many people outside of her fanbase went to this tour is telling(the numbers show that too). The reputation tour maybe was something that only the Swifties knew about but sure as hell not the Eras Tour 

[Squall]

15 hours ago, Blue Monday said:

I'm pretty sure that I already acknowledged that TTPD's sales obviously dwarf Brat's but Brat wins in the cultural conversation.

 

I also didn't bring up Taylor so you can miss me with that; I was initially responding to a Swiftie who was coming at Charli's fans for celebrating Brat's sales. The victim card is extremely tired 

The cultural criteria being Twitter vibes

[Blue Monday]

2 hours ago, Squall said:

The cultural criteria being Twitter vibes

Yeah it's not like one of the two candidates running for the presidency haven/t implemented the BRAT branding into her official campaign or anything, or like Charli isn't currently selling out major venues (the biggest of her career), or putting up better numbers than she ever has before. Alllllll of that is just "vibes." 

 

Just because an artist isn't putting up Taylor Swift level numbers doesn't mean they aren't breaking through. The era is culturally, critically and commercially a smash.

Edited October 17 by Blue Monday

[Squall]

1 hour ago, Blue Monday said:

Yeah it's not like one of the two candidates running for the presidency haven/t implemented the BRAT branding into her official campaign or anything, or like Charli isn't currently selling out major venues (the biggest of her career), or putting up better numbers than she ever has before. Alllllll of that is just "vibes." 

 

Just because an artist isn't putting up Taylor Swift level numbers doesn't mean they aren't breaking through. The era is culturally, critically and commercially a smash.

Oh wow Kamala used brat, huge cultural impact that definitely ANNIHILATES TTPD's  

[Blue Monday]

2 hours ago, Squall said:

Oh wow Kamala used brat, huge cultural impact that definitely ANNIHILATES TTPD's  

Your words not mine 

[family.guy123]

On 10/16/2024 at 8:10 AM, soulsearcher said:

And that means that TTPD wasn't huge when it sold 2,6 Million in first week? And why are some of you ALWAYS bring up Taylor in this?

So Taylor sold approx. 2.1 million more than OTAAT in their debut weeks, its yet to surpass its sales, and is currently lower than that album on the BB200? Correct me where I'm wrong. 

[Squall]

12 hours ago, Blue Monday said:

Your words not mine 

"Brats wins in the cultural conversation" the argument being "Kamala used it", maybe you should read yourself again 

[soulsearcher]

14 hours ago, family.guy123 said:

So Taylor sold approx. 2.1 million more than OTAAT in their debut weeks, its yet to surpass its sales, and is currently lower than that album on the BB200? Correct me where I'm wrong. 

What is OTAAT??

[Ger]

18 minutes ago, soulsearcher said:

What is OTAAT??

One Thing at a Time (Morgan Wallen's album)

[M-P-B]

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