discussion ATRLers from Lebanon share their messages as Israel bombs them/their families

[heckinglovato]

5 hours ago, Creationist.X said:

I lost two of my aunts yesterday

5 hours ago, Creationist.X said:

both of our houses in the south were bombed—completely destroyed. Israel continues to claim it's targeting Hezbollah, but we all know their main focus is killing innocent children and families. The world will, once again, stand by and watch them do to Lebanon what they did to Palestine. But this time, trust me, Israel will pay dearly, just as they did in the 2006 war. Israel is a cancer to the world, and what's even worse than Israel is the U.S., where people think the problem is limited to Biden. Now they'll go vote for Kamala—a queen of genocide wrapped in a rainbow flag. If they think they are killing a nation, they're wrong—our hatred for both grows stronger with every child they kill in Lebanon. 

On 9/19/2024 at 5:25 PM, Edonis said:

I have family from the south of Lebanon and even though these strikes are far from where they live, I'm keeping an eye on their safety/if they need to evacuate. So many passive players and spectators in the geopolitical space have no idea what it's like to worry about family being blown to shreds by missiles and will never know how it feels to see so many "friends" who claim to be there for you turn their backs on you.

On 9/17/2024 at 5:36 PM, DuffStan said:

My parents told me they heard sirens all over the city. People can't take this anymore! ENOUGH!!!!

11 hours ago, Nova_23 said:

My family are Palestinian refugees who were displaced to Lebanon. Israel is now bombing the area where my family lives. Please pray for them. 

 

These keep coming in... 

 

Please keep everyone in your thoughts, keep protesting, keep mobilizing. None of this is okay or normal.

Edited September 25 by heckinglovato

[KahnumDash]

heartbreaking. my best friend has family members in lebanon and she is terrified for them.

[Daddy]

May the world have the courage to stop the murderous mission of the terrorist state that is Israel. I hope everyone but zionists will be able to live in peace.

[ChooseyLover]

It is not okay. My heart breaks for Palestine and Lebanon and every nation living in fear for their lives because of Israel and my thoughts are with all of you. This is beyond unacceptable.

Edited September 25 by ChooseyLover

[welham]

Knowing how some of the pro-Israel members on here are... I hope these Lebanese members are somewhere safe and not sharing too much information about their whereabouts/identity. Please beware. 

[DuffStan]

Thank you for this thread, it means a lot because we feel invisible and like our lives do not matter at all. History will remember.

[Uncatena]

my heart is bleeding for you and I am sorry that the world is failing you and all the other innocent people that Israhell is targeting  @Nova_23 @DuffStan @Edonis @Creationist.X

 

ATRL mods need to be stricter on the raging zionists on this forum. if these users have to fear for their and their loved ones life, the least they deserve is an online community that doesn't include people who think their murder is justified. 

[KatyPrismSpirit]

12 minutes ago, welham said:

Knowing how some of the pro-Israel members on here are... I hope these Lebanese members are somewhere safe and not sharing too much information about their whereabouts/identity. Please beware. 

The zionists on here are scum. All they do is painting all Arabs as terrorists to justify Zionist terrorism. Thank God no one believes this anymore besides Zionists themselves.

[heckinglovato]

 

Meanwhile, here's how some other ATRL members have commented on the recent escalations:

 

 

On 9/22/2024 at 11:09 PM, N.M.K. said:

The thousands maimed were… terrorists from Hezbollah no? The ones that have been shooting rockets at Israel for the past 11 months and killed Israeli schoolchildren on a soccer field just a short while ago. Weird how there was no outrage there right?

 

what I find odd is Israel is criticized for being too indiscriminate in its attacks. And then, in perhaps one of the most precise ways possible, Israel detonates the beepers solely owned by Hezbollah members (the same group who, again, has been sending rockets for almost a year at Israel that thousands of civilians have been displaced from the constant rocket fire) - and then the criticism is that too was wrong. So what is the proper way for Israel to defend itself? Is Israel not allowed to retaliate against an Iran-based proxy group operating out of Lebanon that has killed its people and has been shooting rockets at its people for a year? 
 

weird how that works

On 9/17/2024 at 7:39 PM, Gui Blackout said:

Oh my goodness, I hope they saved the warranty

On 9/22/2024 at 8:06 PM, Bosque said:

Hopefully this will make them reconsider their plans to launch the full ground invasion in Israel that they have been planning imminently

  

Careful, you are going to confuse a lot of people on this website by posing common sense questions that any 10-year old would ask themselves

On 9/19/2024 at 1:57 AM, Lovesong said:

Targeted attacks against members of militant group is not terrorist attack by definition and won't be recognized as such by majority of the world, instead it was celebrated by many, including Arab states, who remember murders Hezbollah have done in Syria (leaving aside many bombings around the world like this one).

On 9/19/2024 at 5:56 PM, VOSS said:

Has Hezbollah been firing rockets indiscriminately at Israel or is this just unprovoked?

[Virgos Groove]

2 minutes ago, heckinglovato said:

Meanwhile, here's how some other ATRL members have commented on the recent escalations:

I genuinely don't get how these members haven't been banned yet. You get ZTP bans for making crass jokes about Israelis, but spending a year dehumanizing Palestinians (and now Lebanese people) and tolerating/supporting their genocide is a-okay.

 

@Jjang, one of the few Palestinian voices in this site, got banned for... actually, I'm still not sure why he got banned, but fascists like @Bosque and @Gui Blackout are allowed to spew their hatred of brown people completely unpunished. It's revolting.

[Bosque]

15 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said:

I genuinely don't get how these members haven't been banned yet. You get ZTP bans for making crass jokes about Israelis, but spending a year dehumanizing Palestinians (and now Lebanese people) and tolerating/supporting their genocide is a-okay.

 

@Jjang, one of the few Palestinian voices in this site, got banned for... actually, I'm still not sure why he got banned, but fascists like @Bosque and @Gui Blackout are allowed to spew their hatred of brown people completely unpunished. It's revolting.

Please quote the post of mine where I was hating brown people 

[bielneira]

That's so sad 💔 Heartbreaking news

[Virgos Groove]

26 minutes ago, Bosque said:

Please quote the post of mine where I was hating brown people 

Sis, you have spent the last year denying the existence of apartheid in Israel, conflating Palestinians and Hamas as a way of justifying Israel's crimes, pushing Netanyahu's line, not to mention your endless threads trying to incite Islamophobic hatred.

 

Hell, just yesterday, you misinterpreted my words and tried to paint the PLO and the PFLP as Islamist organizations.

Edited September 25 by Virgos Groove

[Into The Void]

What will it take to stop attacking innocent civilians 

[Matchatea]

Lebanon has such a personal place in my heart and it's just so hard seeing this and knowing my close friends family live there. Praying for them along with Palestine as always. One day we will have a free Palestine and have the violence from Israel stop in Lebanon, Inshallah.  

[polygon]

Death to the proxy state of euro-american imperialism in Palestine.

[Bosque]

16 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said:

Sis, you have spent the last year denying the existence of apartheid in Israel, conflating Palestinians and Hamas as a way of justifying Israel's crimes, pushing Netanyahu's line, not to mention your endless threads trying to incite Islamophobic hatred.

 

Hell, just yesterday, you misinterpreted my words and tried to paint the PLO and the PFLP as Islamist organizations.

I didn't misinterpret anything and the PLO and PFLP were both Islamist terrorist organizations that purposefully murdered children and committed many international acts of terrorism, that's historical fact. 

 

The funniest part is that I have always in every single one of my posts here made an explicit distinction between terrorists and civilian and called out Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis while saying that civilians must be protected. Even the comment you linked I made absolutely no conflation between Hamas and Palestine despite your continued lies. At the same time several "progressive" members of this forum have openly and explicitly justified, endorsed and supported the murder and rape of Israeli civilians, yet you have never seen the need to call any of them out. So excuse me if your dramatic pearl clutching just comes across as tedious and not credible. 
 

I will continue to call out the violent terrorist organization of Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis and their wanton murder of Jewish, Arab, Muslim and Christian Middle Easterners for as long as they continue to be violent terrorists. If terrorists being called terrorists offends you so much then put me on your ignore list you beautiful tender snowflake. 
 

Hopefully the civilians in Lebanon manage to stay safe (not the hezbkhara terrorists, I could not give less of a **** what happens to them), and all the ATRLers affected can safely return to their homes. 

Edited September 25 by Bosque

[welham]

1 hour ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

The zionists on here are scum. All they do is painting all Arabs as terrorists to justify Zionist terrorism. Thank God no one believes this anymore besides Zionists themselves.

While true, it is especially important for these users to keep an open eye and be careful during these times. 

 

There are multiple accounts that have been made within the period of the war and only post about the war/spewing Israeli propaganda. Who knows who is really behind these accounts + non-ATRL users can view these threads. The last couple of weeks have shown not only how unhinged pro-Israeli users are, but also the extent of Israeli intelligence and intimidation methods. For users who are either in Lebanon or have family+/friends in Lebanon, it is better to be safe than sorry. 

[PrettyHurts]

This is devastating. Israel is so evil 

[Matchatea]

 

Allahumma ij'al lahu salāman wa ṭum'āninah 

barak allah fik wafi eayilatik 

 

 

 @Nova_23 @DuffStan @Edonis

 @Creationist.X

 

 

[Uncatena]

7 minutes ago, Bosque said:

I will continue to call out the violent terrorist organization of Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis and their wanton murder of Jewish, Arab, Muslim and Christian Middle Easterners for as long as they continue to be violent terrorists.

and yet you won't do the same for Israel, a terrorist state committing genocide. so ******* disingenuous and hypocritical and the fact that you think people will buy it is so shameless.

 

8 minutes ago, Bosque said:

and all the ATRLers affected can safely return to their homes. 

they likely won't, you know, since Isn'treal is indiscriminatorily bombing them. 

[Virgos Groove]

51 minutes ago, Bosque said:

 At the same time several "progressive" members of this forum have openly and explicitly justified, endorsed and supported the murder and rape of Israeli civilians, yet you have never seen the need to call any of them out. So excuse me if your dramatic pearl clutching just comes across as tedious and not credible.

Now it's your turn to start posting some links, because I've never seen any member endorsing the rape of Israeli civilians. The most "extreme" posts I've seen are the ones calling for expulsion of Israelis from Palestine (which I don't support, but I'm also not Palestinian, so my opinion doesn't matter - also, no legitimate organization in Palestine is calling for that). And all of those posts were made by Arab members in moments of vulnerability or anger due to Israel's genocidal policies towards their compatriots.

 

And you say I don't see the need to criticize my fellow progressives... but I do. I've literally criticized the antisemitic rethoric by some Western leftists in their uninformed critiques of Israel. What I won't do is preface all my posts with 280-character answers to "BuT dO yOu CoNdEmN HaMaS!!??" or criticize how the Palestinians, who barely have a state let alone an army, free themselves from their prison.

 

Also, the PLO and PFLP were not Islamist. Not only did they call for establishment of a secular state, but the leader of the PFLP was literally a Christian. You do know Islamism isn't "when brown people do things", right?

Edited September 25 by Virgos Groove

[Freakshowvato]

HANDS OFF LEBANON!

 

[ZeroSuitBritney]

@Bosque Weird how you ignore every thread that shows the wrongdoings of Israel and the IDF. Thoughts on the video of the soldiers raping a Palestinian in custody? Or the fact that people rioted to release said soldiers? Or the fact majority of Israelis think it's okay for their soldiers to rape Palestinians in custody? Thoughts on videos of Israel deliberately targeting aid workers and journalists? Thoughts on videos of Israel dropping bombs on two people walking casually to get back home? Thoughts on Israel offering boat tours to their citizens to show the destruction of Gaza? Thoughts on the multiple times Israel declined a ceasefire deal if it was permanent? Thoughts on the fact Israel blackmails LGBT Palestinians to be their spy or else they will expose them to their families? Thoughts on "de-escalation through the escalation" leading to the deadliest single day in Lebanon since 2006? Thoughts on the "Hamas calendar" that was actually just the days of the week? Thoughts on every human rights organization saying Israel is deliberately blocking aid?

 

You're a horrible person, but I'm sure you know that. 

[A.R.L]

It is so sad to see the situation in which Lebanon, whose capital was once called the Paris of the Middle East, reach this level of corruption and political and ideological destruction.