video clip Palestinians share their thoughts on LGBTQ supporting them

[rhaenyra]

On 9/22/2024 at 2:23 AM, WildHeart said:

You can support 10 years old Palestinian boy who committed suicide by hanging himself today because of Israel's ongoing genocide or does he not deserve any support too because he was a child of a muslim? 

We cherry picking now? The only person having those horrendous thoughts is you girl  give it a rest 

[Headlock]

On 9/24/2024 at 10:19 PM, DiabeticGrandpa said:

I dont care about them. Those children will become the homophobes that will fight against our rights. So I couldnt care less about this conflict. 

The way you're literally advocating for genocide as a form of eugenics 

[WildHeart]

4 hours ago, rhaenyra said:

We cherry picking now? The only person having those horrendous thoughts is you girl  give it a rest 

Cherry picking? More than 10,000 children have been murdered by Israel's ongoing genocide in Gaza. 

 

You are the one ******* cherry picking when you advacote for a genocide because of people who are homopobic 

[justinxx]

a grain of critical thinking can let you see that this is propaganda

[DiabeticGrandpa]

14 hours ago, Headlock said:

The way you're literally advocating for genocide as a form of eugenics 

I wont support homophobes

[Headlock]

10 hours ago, DiabeticGrandpa said:

I wont support homophobes

Are you that bored and awful to troll on the internet about literal children being killed?

[Chemist]

This thread is truly a cesspool. Imagine seeing what israel does every day and still support them . Assuming that video is real (which i don't think it is) Lebanon is way more accepting of gays than Palestine and Israel is bombing them as we speak. Now what?

[Samsara]

On 9/26/2024 at 9:59 PM, justinxx said:

a grain of critical thinking can let you see that this is propaganda

Islam being violently homophobic is common knowledge. Palestinians being helpless, innocent victims of genocide by Jewish colonialists is propaganda.

[Samsara]

On 9/28/2024 at 2:43 PM, Chemist said:

This thread is truly a cesspool. Imagine seeing what israel does every day and still support them . Assuming that video is real (which i don't think it is) Lebanon is way more accepting of gays than Palestine and Israel is bombing them as we speak. Now what?

How would you respond if you were in Israel's situation? Would you just stand by while your hostile neighbors try to bomb you into oblivion? What Israel is doing is the proper way of confronting Islamic terrorism.

 

[Chemist]

2 hours ago, Samsara said:

How would you respond if you were in Israel's situation? Would you just stand by while your hostile neighbors try to bomb you into oblivion? What Israel is doing is the proper way of confronting Islamic terrorism.

 

Do you really think that this war is the solution? The hatred towards Israel has just increased tenfold in the region. Things are going to get even uglier from now on. Israel will never have peace, at least not for the next decades.

 

Hamas was willing to accept the 1967 borders, and I am pretty sure the Israeli people would accept a change in borders as long as it means long-standing peace. You would try ANYTHING before murdering children like that. There are so many examples of internal terrorism that have been solved by just listening (South Africa, Colombia, etc.).

 

I would sit down and hear the proposals of Palestine and concede some of the requests that they have.

 

[Samsara]

40 minutes ago, Chemist said:

Do you really think that this war is the solution? The hatred towards Israel has just increased tenfold in the region. Things are going to get even uglier from now on. Israel will never have peace, at least not for the next decades.

 

Hamas was willing to accept the 1967 borders, and I am pretty sure the Israeli people would accept a change in borders as long as it means long-standing peace. You would try ANYTHING before murdering children like that. There are so many examples of internal terrorism that have been solved by just listening (South Africa, Colombia, etc.).

 

I would sit down and hear the proposals of Palestine and concede some of the requests that they have.

 

Israel's society, military and government have long adapted to the realities of living with frequent hostilities from their neighbors. The Jewish people endured two thousand years of constant persecution as an oppressed minority in foreign lands, including the horrors of the Holocaust. What more could come their way that they can't handle?

 

Only now that they're on verge of being destroyed are Hamas willing to accept a Palestinian state and a ceasefire which for sure wouldn't last long. They will attack again right away. They always call for a ceasefire and then always break it. Their idea of a ceasefire is a one-sided ceasefire where they get to regroup and attack Israel and Israel can't fight back. Every last Hamas terrorist must be wiped out first. Only then Israel can talk peace. The countries you've mentioned didn't have to deal with Islamic terrorists. None of them could have dealt successfully with Islamic terrorists. Not even the US. Only Israel can.

[DiabeticGrandpa]

On 9/27/2024 at 7:59 AM, Headlock said:

Are you that bored and awful to troll on the internet about literal children being killed?

Enough. I wont change my stance and you wont change yours. 

[Ghiles]

This is a blatant example of the cheap propaganda that Israel and its supporters have produced for decades in order to dehumanize Palestinians in the eyes of Western audiences. Thanks to this manufactured consent, Israel has been able to continuously butcher the Palestinians, occupy their land, slowly erase their existence through policies of apartheid and settler colonialism, without facing strong opposition or uproar. But in the age of social media, Israel's atrocities have become so frequent, so perverse, so widespread that the average decent person can no longer turn a blind eye to such blatant violations of human rights and international law. The result today is Tel Aviv's worst nightmare : Israel's image has never been more in shambles, and support for the Palestinians has never been so high.

 

Israel would like you to think otherwise but the rights of Palestinians, including freedom and self-determination, are unconditionally protected by international law and cannot be negotiated. They should not be maimed, starved, or facing a genocide right now. Regardless of whether they support LGBT people or not.

 

If you cannot bring yourself to unconditionally support Palestinians in this situation, remember that bombs kill everyone indiscriminately, including fellow gays, babies, children, and people who are allies or fine with gays.

 

Edited September 29 by Ghiles

[Chemist]

6 hours ago, Samsara said:

Israel's society, military and government have long adapted to the realities of living with frequent hostilities from their neighbors. The Jewish people endured two thousand years of constant persecution as an oppressed minority in foreign lands, including the horrors of the Holocaust. What more could come their way that they can't handle?

 

Only now that they're on verge of being destroyed are Hamas willing to accept a Palestinian state and a ceasefire which for sure wouldn't last long. They will attack again right away. They always call for a ceasefire and then always break it. Their idea of a ceasefire is a one-sided ceasefire where they get to regroup and attack Israel and Israel can't fight back. Every last Hamas terrorist must be wiped out first. Only then Israel can talk peace. The countries you've mentioned didn't have to deal with Islamic terrorists. None of them could have dealt successfully with Islamic terrorists. Not even the US. Only Israel can.

Wrong. Hamas was willing to accept a 2 state solution as early as 2017 (based on the 1967 borders). Eradicating Hamas completely is not a realistic or sustainable solution. Only peace talks can truly bring peace. 

 

Reducing this conflict to military action alone ignores the deeply-rooted political and social dimensions. Israel knows this but they don't care. 

[A.R.L]

2 hours ago, Chemist said:

Wrong. Hamas was willing to accept a 2 state solution as early as 2017 (based on the 1967 borders). Eradicating Hamas completely is not a realistic or sustainable solution. Only peace talks can truly bring peace. 

 

Reducing this conflict to military action alone ignores the deeply-rooted political and social dimensions. Israel knows this but they don't care. 

In 2017, Hamas recognized the possibility of establishing a Palestinian state on the basis of the 1967 borders, which some saw as an implicit acceptance of the two-state solution.

 

But, Hamas did not support the two-state solution, unfortunately they never and will  never recognize Israel's right to exist, as they continued to reject Israel's legitimacy.
 

In other words, they wanted to get back the old borders of 1967 but then they would still emphasise the armed attack as a means to achieve their goals against Israel.
 

This was seen as a shift in tone, but not a full acceptance of a two-state solution.

Edited September 29 by A.R.L

[HANZ94]

On 9/19/2024 at 12:57 PM, Space Cowboy said:

Palestine has a terrible islamic culture that doesn't respect lgbt rights, female rights, and basic human rights. Yes, that's true.

 

Still, no group of people deserves to face a genocide. 

This

[alexjealexje]

On 9/19/2024 at 9:10 PM, Big Bad Wolf said:

And that's why I never gave a ****! Sorry. Downvote me all you want. Why should I advocate for the survival of hateful ass moronic homophobes? Miss me with that bullshit. The rest of you can sit pretty on your moral high horses defending those who would not spit on you if you were on fire. Well good luck babe!

Thank you ! 👏

[Anthinos]

What annoys me as a gay man is how our rights are often not taken seriously, even by progressive people, and how our problems are played down "...just because you can get pounded in Tel Aviv". Yes, because that is of course our biggest worry.

In my country, homosexual people were once sent to concentration camps and were discriminated against for decades afterwards. To this day, this is played down. I find it disgusting.

I don't support what's happening in Palestine, but I have to admit that I'm beginning to not care what happens outside the West. I support LGBT rights and want to live a good and safe life and the West is the best place for that. That's why I have no sympathy for leftists who don't want to vote anymore because of this war and thus give free rein to right-wing extremists. Sorry, but that's just toxic and illogical. There are many bad things happening in this world. We can't save the whole world. Let's save ourselves first. To this day, LGBT+ people suffer from discrimination, even in Western countries. And let's please be honest and not play down the homophobia of certain groups. It's not just white men or boomers.