americanshameless Posted September 22 Posted September 22 DO YOU SEE THEM AS YOUR ALLIES?11! Boy stfu
AaronBryceSufjan Posted September 23 Posted September 23 free Palestine is about basic human rights, we'll deal with systematic homophobia later... 2
littlepotter Posted September 23 Posted September 23 Im so pleasantly shocked to see ATRL and the west in general's view towards palestine has grown so much over the past year. Sad it took a genocide to prove what's been happening for a century.
Mr.X Posted September 23 Posted September 23 Here are actual LGBTQIA+ Palestinians who should be supported instead of giving voice to homophobes for zionist purposes: https://www.instagram.com/queersinpalestine/ 2
Headlock Posted September 23 Posted September 23 On 9/22/2024 at 6:13 AM, A.R.L said: So, do Palestinians have the right to live? Yes. But in a way that makes sense, Holy ******* **** y'all have gone full mask off in here 3
codependent Posted September 24 Posted September 24 Thank you for sharing this video. I had no idea Palestine hated LGBT+ people as much as they did. That's really sad. 4
SeeingStars1515 Posted September 24 Posted September 24 On 9/19/2024 at 2:36 PM, simplywohoo said: Is this supposed to be a shock or smth? Are they terrible for that? Yes Do I want anything to do with homophobes? No Do I want their country to get bombed? No lol yeah I'm not sure why both things can't exist. Humans are predictably terrible at two things existing together
A.R.L Posted September 24 Posted September 24 17 hours ago, Headlock said: Holy ******* **** y'all have gone full mask off in here Please read some history books. 2 2
ICLDXU4HS Posted September 24 Posted September 24 On 9/22/2024 at 3:56 PM, DiabeticGrandpa said: I dont support genocide countries but I also dont support a culture that wants me dead. So, I'm neutral. It's their problem. "I'm neutral about the mass murder of a population that's 50% children and teenagers because the adults in their lives happen to be homophobic. It's their problem. GAY RIGHTS!!!1!1 " 2
BionicWooHoo Posted September 24 Posted September 24 The idea of people running around asking Palestinians if they support gay people while thousands of Israeli bombs supplied by America go off in the background just so because they think they can use it as a gotcha moment against anti-genocide protesters is sending me 4
Bosque Posted September 24 Posted September 24 On 9/20/2024 at 12:16 AM, Virgos Groove said: Yes, we literally can. Until the early-90s, the Palestinian liberation movement was driven by secular forces (PLO) Those totally peaceful, secular, non-fundamentalist forces such as the PLO and the PFLP that literally massacred children on school buses, influenced Black September to carry out the Munich massacre, fought in the 1967 war against Israel and were kicked out of Jordan after murdering hundreds of Jordanians in an attempt at a coup 4 5
Virgos Groove Posted September 24 Posted September 24 10 minutes ago, Bosque said: Those totally peaceful, secular, non-fundamentalist forces such as the PLO and the PFLP that literally massacred children on school buses, influenced Black September to carry out the Munich massacre, fought in the 1967 war against Israel and were kicked out of Jordan after murdering hundreds of Jordanians in an attempt at a coup Who said anything about peaceful? I said the PLO and PFLP were secular, which they were. They did not fight to establish a Muslim theocracy. George Habbash was literally a Christian. Yes, the secular Palestinian resistance did commit atrocities in the 60s and 70s. Those were no different from what Israel has been inflicting on Palestinians for decades. The idea that Palestinians, who don't have an army, should roll over and die instead of using violence like their oppressors do is laughable. Zionists use violence every. single. day. Decolonization is a violent process not because colonized people have a hard-on for violence, but because the colonizers leave them no other choice. It's how French rule was kicked out of Algeria, how the Portuguese rule was kicked out of Angola, etc. When Palestinians tried a peaceful approach in the beginning of the First Intifada or in 2018, the IDF proceeded to shoot them. So spare us the tears over ViOlEnCe!!!11! 6
John Slayne Posted September 24 Posted September 24 (edited) not watched all of it because it changes absolutely nothing. you could find religious conservatives in every country, in fact Israel, Europe, and North America are currently filled with them. should the US be bombed and colonised? or Europe? not to mention that this framing ignores queer Palestinians who are being murdered by Israel/The West as well. what about their rights? the implication here is that Palestinians deserve to be genocided because they're homophobic, which is insane. bombs and colonialism will not advance queer rights. not falling for this Zionist/American propaganda. edit: and another thing, it's especially cynical for cis-hetero people to be advancing this argument. i find it offensive that someone uses my humanity and existence to justify genocide. Israeli war crimes are NOT committed in my name, and every queer person should take the same stance on this. Edited September 24 by John Slayne 6 2
Matchatea Posted September 24 Posted September 24 Why is this thread still open? It's obviously bait and used to justify a genocide….. I'm tired of this pink propaganda. 4 2
DiabeticGrandpa Posted September 25 Posted September 25 7 hours ago, ICLDXU4HS said: "I'm neutral about the mass murder of a population that's 50% children and teenagers because the adults in their lives happen to be homophobic. It's their problem. GAY RIGHTS!!!1!1 " I dont care about them. Those children will become the homophobes that will fight against our rights. So I couldnt care less about this conflict. 4 9
Virgos Groove Posted September 25 Posted September 25 (edited) 8 hours ago, DiabeticGrandpa said: I dont care about them. Those children will become the homophobes that will fight against our rights. So I couldnt care less about this conflict. 1. There are people who, get this, are both Palestinian and queer. Shocking, right? 2. Those children will not grow up at all if Israel has its way. 3. If you don't think tolerating genocide of Palestinians will inevitably lead to tolerating genocide of queer people, you're not familiar with History. Edited September 25 by Virgos Groove 5 2
KahnumDash Posted September 25 Posted September 25 1 hour ago, BILLIONAIRE✘BOY said: I will pray for them that's about all they'll be getting from me anymore 1
DiabeticGrandpa Posted September 25 Posted September 25 7 hours ago, Virgos Groove said: 1. There are people who, get this, are both Palestinian and queer. Shocking, right? 2. Those children will not grow up at all if Israel has its way. 3. If you don't think tolerating genocide of Palestinians will inevitably lead to tolerating genocide of queer people, you're not familiar with History. I dont care about your reasons. I wont support the Palestinians, not that it Matters what I think 4
heckinglovato Posted September 25 Posted September 25 Reading six pages of people debating whether or not I should live or die because my Palestinian family is homophobic is... quite something 2 1
John Slayne Posted September 25 Posted September 25 19 hours ago, DiabeticGrandpa said: I dont care about them. Those children will become the homophobes that will fight against our rights. So I couldnt care less about this conflict. I'm sorry but how do y'all expect homophobes to see your humanity when you can't extend the tiniest bit of grace and sympathy to children. Excusing genocide is not gay rights activism. 4 1
DiabeticGrandpa Posted September 26 Posted September 26 3 hours ago, John Slayne said: I'm sorry but how do y'all expect homophobes to see your humanity when you can't extend the tiniest bit of grace and sympathy to children. Excusing genocide is not gay rights activism. I DONT CARE. HOMOPHOBES WILL BE HOMOPHOBES 1 3
Pecinta Mariah Posted September 26 Posted September 26 On 9/20/2024 at 1:46 AM, Almighty Gaga said: Don't really care to watch. Israel is a terrorist state though. Hope that helps. Period
John Slayne Posted September 26 Posted September 26 6 hours ago, DiabeticGrandpa said: I DONT CARE. HOMOPHOBES WILL BE HOMOPHOBES okay well good luck if you think children (including QUEER children) should be murdered because some of them are homophobic 1
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