kudmips7890 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, Jay07 said: it was an ill conceived idea that completely misjudged its audience from the very beginning has to be the most insane copium I've ever seen on this board. The origin story of Joker was finished so there was no need for this film I think we're also forgetting the DCEU's brand has been in the gutter. There's also fatigue over Superhero/adjacent films )with obvious exceptions like Deadpool + Wolverine are one-offs). WB-Discovery made the same mistake in thinking a sequel to a successful DC film (like WW2 with WW), would do numbers but it didn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgaga1fan Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Starshine said: Nobody goes into theaters with "this actor is in % of this movie" in mind. It's bombing bc it's a musical and ain't nobody like those. Nobody is talking about the fact that the ending of the movie was already spoiled in the press and it's pissed off the MEGA fans of the first movie so much that they're refusing to see this film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kudmips7890 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said: Where were Beyoncé's when The Gift was released? Whole re-release and a WHOLE DISNEY-BACKED film with ONE WHOLE YEAR of international production too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Dick Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 9 minutes ago, Charmed Life said: MTE. They're trying to blame Joaquin and Todd, but both were attached to the first movie. So the first movie was also not a hit because of Joaquin and Todd since audiences aren't flocking to see them again? Or is it all just Gaga's fault? It's funny because a year ago whenever Monsters brought up this movie it was "lol, Joker 2 has nothing to do with Gaga's star power" but now it's "Joker 2 is failing because of Gaga's lack of star power" Edited 5 hours ago by Doctor Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgaga1fan Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, kudmips7890 said: I think we're also forgetting the DCEU's brand has been in the gutter. There's also fatigue over Superhero/adjacent films )with obvious exceptions like Deadpool + Wolverine are one-offs). WB-Discovery made the same mistake in thinking a sequel to a successful DC film (like WW2 with WW), would do numbers but it didn't. WW2, Aquaman 2, Blue Beetle, The Suicide Squad, Shazam 2, Black Adam… it's been a string of disasters for DC. The hope Joker 2 has atp is the fact that it has a ceiling of like 500m which would break even, and unlike any of the other films listed will likely get awards recognition in craft categories and maybe acting awards. I'm more so confused at the reported budget of 200m (50m went to Phillips, Phoenix and Gaga) the movie does not look like it had a production budget of 150 million, especially compared to a movie like Barbie that was a lot cheaper. They're banking on Superman and the revived Batman trilogy but it's not looking great considering how big the plans are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjorn Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Black Adam - $67M Indiana Jones 5 - $60M Joker FAD - $55M The Flash - $55M Shazam - $53M The Marvels - $46M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuelve88 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Doctor Dick said: So the first movie was also not a hit because of Joaquin and Todd since they're audiences aren't flocking to see them again? Or is it all just Gaga's fault? It's funny because a year ago whenever Monsters brought up this movie it was "lol, Joker 2 has nothing to do with Gaga's star power" but now it's "Joker 2 is failing because of Gaga's lack of star power" If only there was a way to determine what factors had changed from the hit first movie to this underperforming sequel? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Dick Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, vuelve88 said: If only there was a way to determine what factors had changed from the hit first movie to this underperforming sequel? Well, judging by the outrage it's the shift in genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kudmips7890 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said: I'm more so confused at the reported budget of 200m (50m went to Phillips, Phoenix and Gaga) the movie does not look like it had a production budget of 150 million Same. Original on the high-end was like 70M and Joaquin only got around 5M. That's 65M leftover. With inflation, I can see that skyrocketing a bit to something like 80M but that only caps out to 130M for a budget. Maybe some of the sets and SFX this time were more expensive? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Dick Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 9 minutes ago, bjorn said: Black Adam - $67M Indiana Jones 5 - $60M Joker FAD - $55M The Flash - $55M Shazam - $53M The Marvels - $46M I don't understand why the comparisons are those movies aside from it being a comic book movie though. And I mean in opening weekend estimates etc. Joker 2 could very well be a good movie overall that caters to lovers of musicals and drama and their audiences don't flock to theatres on opening weekend but rather give such movies legs. I don't know, how do we know Joker 2 won't perform better than those aforementioned movies and has better legs because of the audience it caters to? Which is obviously not comic book fans anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThousandMiles Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 16 minutes ago, bjorn said: Black Adam - $67M Indiana Jones 5 - $60M Joker FAD - $55M The Flash - $55M Shazam - $53M The Marvels - $46M I'm speechless.mp3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brutal Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago It seems like locals have spoke up and confirmed they are not seeing the movie because of Lady Gaga 1 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainwreck Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago MOVIE POISON LADY GAGA 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breathe On Moi Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 18 minutes ago, brutal said: It seems like locals have spoke up and confirmed they are not seeing the movie because of Lady Gaga maybe if they knew she's only in the movie for only 50mins now then maybe they'll want to watch it? a reverse warholian or whatever they call it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relampago. Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Omg the 10 mile Twitter posts @kudmips7890 Also, I think people like Gaga, but she wasn't the right fit for this movie and that's okay. It was just a dumb idea to make it a musical lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_vocal_technique Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago What is that long ass tweet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kudmips7890 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, Relampago. said: Omg the 10 mile Twitter posts @kudmips7890 Also, I think people like Gaga, but she wasn't the right fit for this movie and that's okay. It was just a dumb idea to make it a musical lol. I'm sorry! I didn't know the embed would do that! Thought it would just give a short snapshot of the Twitter user and their follows or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Dick Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Trainwreck said: MOVIE POISON LADY GAGA Saying that with a straight face with Taylor in your avi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBoy Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Not Black Adam doing more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainwreck Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Just now, Doctor Dick said: Saying that with a straight face with Taylor in your avi. Yes because my fave never had a main role in a sequel to a mega succesful movie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Dick Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, kudmips7890 said: I'm sorry! I didn't know the embed would do that! Thought it would just give a short snapshot of the Twitter user and their follows or something. I CACKLED when I saw it Like this thread turned into Twitter/X (kinda fitting given the excuses and tin-foiled arguments of the OGHs tho) Edited 4 hours ago by Doctor Dick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Dick Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, Trainwreck said: Yes because my fave never had a main role in a sequel to a mega succesful movie That's because your fave made her movies bomb with a supporting role. Edited 4 hours ago by Doctor Dick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgaga1fan Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Don't worry brother monsters, Joker: Folie a Deux has SOLD OUT in India! All the haters are going to look crazy when the final numbers come out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbsparce Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 8 minutes ago, kudmips7890 said: I'm sorry! I didn't know the embed would do that! Thought it would just give a short snapshot of the Twitter user and their follows or something. Could you pls edit your post? It takes forever to scroll down the page 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kudmips7890 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, dumbsparce said: Could you pls edit your post? It takes forever to scroll down the page No, OGH Y'all chose to use examples of literal racists for a kii so... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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