BrokenMachine Posted September 3 Posted September 3 3 hours ago, RideOrDie said: the way this thread was supposed to be a katy lashing kii party and it turned into a mumbling nonsense about colby o'donner kebab and beysus, everything is going wrong You should have known you shouldn't mess with Colby stans. They're a minority on this site, but they are loyal and loud Legend K wins this round
Pinkbutterflies Posted September 3 Posted September 3 4 hours ago, Digitalism said: 4 wasn't released at the time. Beyonce was comming from her biggest album. She was huge at the time. Beyonce was a local superstar whereas Gaga was hitting number in every continent, hence why Gaga gave Beyonce her first global hit until recently. 1 1 1
Into The Void Posted September 3 Posted September 3 4 hours ago, Digitalism said: Colby was bigger than gaga when that came out. A new artists with one hit (solo unlike Gaga). Gaga had 0 hits when that came out. Bradley is a huge celebrity with a 2.5 billion song. His biggest song is bigger than all of Gaga's hits. What hits did he have I had never heard of him before Just Dance. Bradley's biggest song being bihger than Gaga when it's her song too. What drugs r u on? 2
BrokenMachine Posted September 3 Posted September 3 6 hours ago, Digitalism said: Bradley is a huge celebrity with a 2.5 billion song. His biggest song is bigger than all of Gaga's hits. Ok
BrokenMachine Posted September 3 Posted September 3 Gaga, since she does it for the charts. Legend K puts arts before the charts, that's why she's not charting at all, but she followed her artistic vision
cyberraga Posted September 3 Posted September 3 1 hour ago, Calvin said: Wait for LG7 Wait to see what, exactly? Nothing Lady Gaga releases will be a 143-level disaster.
Titanbaddie Posted September 3 Posted September 3 That user trying to claim Beyonce wasn't a big star during IASF just because of WDYLM like just months prior Beyonce hadn't released 4 huge hits (SL, IIWAB, Halo, Sweet dreams). This is why people don't do monsters. 2
Infernal Paradise Posted September 3 Posted September 3 (edited) 10 hours ago, Digitalism said: Gaga had 0 hits when that came out. No **** SHERLOCK, because it was her DEBUT SINGLE??? Nobody in their right minds thinks JD is a hit because of, *checks notes*, Colby O'Donis, a literal one-hit wonder who was tacked on last minute by Akon to help his career take off because they knew they had a huge hit in their hands. Edited September 3 by Infernal Paradise 1 2
JoeAg Posted September 3 Posted September 3 12 hours ago, Gelato said: #37 If We Ever Meet Again w/ Timbaland to be completelyyyy mothaf*cka it's true, Joe at 4:27 am who needs more sleep, honest/fair… this song deserved better. like way BETTER. but notice how it's the only Kety sawng I quoted but yeah, regarding the OP of course that™️ lady is the winner, whilst awl of Gaga's felt natural and most are true classics
Erreur2 La Nature Posted September 3 Posted September 3 Thought this would be a Kukai thread lol. I'm gonna say none of them are « desperate ». Katy knows she has not been able to get a hit in a while and it looks like she does not really care anymore no matter if her releases are solo or not. Gaga gets a hit from time to time and definitely knows it only sticks when it's a collaboration, but she also continues to release solo music.
UnRayuki Posted September 3 Posted September 3 If a song is not good a featuring does nothing. If any of them thinks she's securing anything with a feat they are delulu. Katy used feats to climb some positions with songs that were already doing good, that's a different kind of featurings, but the song needs to be good anyway.
jijie101 Posted September 3 Posted September 3 14 hours ago, Teen Spirit said: Both are washed up tbh, idc about this recent Gaga hit. Let's see how LG7 performs. I know you'll be mad if Gaga adds this to LG7 But at least it's Gaga's song released by her label and only on her Youtube channel unlike your fave who shamelessly added all the features that are not even her songs to her "albums" 1
Teen Spirit Posted September 3 Posted September 3 2 hours ago, jijie101 said: I know you'll be mad if Gaga adds this to LG7 But at least it's Gaga's song released by her label and only on her Youtube channel unlike your fave who shamelessly added all the features that are not even her songs to her "albums" Who's my fave?
vince_martin88 Posted September 5 Posted September 5 nnnn all of the Wetness singles are collabs and all of them flopped to oblivion
dumbsparce Posted September 5 Posted September 5 Gaga is aware she can't carry a song by herself anymore so I'd say her. Katy has been doing colabs to appear cooler to demographics that wouldn't check for her if it wasn't for the rap feature. Different cases. 1
TipToe Posted September 5 Posted September 5 On 9/2/2024 at 7:03 PM, Doctor Dick said: But Gaga was bigger as Beyoncé had released a re-release of IASF and the singles from there flopped and the next era she started flopping. Beyoncé wasn't as big as Gaga. Even when looking at IASF stats it wasn't as big as TF either. Gaga didn't need Beyoncé as she was smashing with Bad Romance (and Poker Face and Just Dance and Paparazzi and LoveGame) while Beyoncé was flopping with Why Don't You Love Me. It was an honor for gaGa to collab with Beyoncé, not the other way around. Both benefited from it, commercially speaking, but you make it seem as if Beyoncé was on a dire situation in 2010 which couldn't be farther from truth, log off bish.
Pop Art Posted September 5 Posted September 5 On 9/2/2024 at 5:00 PM, Digitalism said: Colby was bigger than gaga when that came out. A new artists with one hit (solo unlike Gaga). Gaga had 0 hits when that came out. Bradley is a huge celebrity with a 2.5 billion song. His biggest song is bigger than all of Gaga's hits. See, this is why the whole "I'm justified in posting things against Gaga because the liddos are so mean to me :(((" schtick you post basically every other day is so tired because it's so clear you pull this BS right out of your ass and just expect us to believe it but then get so butt hurt when we see right through it and call it out. On 9/2/2024 at 5:00 PM, Digitalism said: Colby was bigger than gaga when that came out. A new artists with one hit (solo unlike Gaga). Gaga had 0 hits when that came out. Unlike Gaga, Colby has never had a solo hit. That "solo hit" you're referring to features Akon, but even if it was solo, it wasn't released until February 26, didn't debuted on the Hot 100 until March 15, and didn't peak on the Hot 100 until May 31 — just 40 days before, 22 days before, and almost 2 months after Just Dance came out, respectively, meaning there's no way they saw this "hit" of his and purposely decided to use his "hit making ability" to help Just Dance because of it like you're suggesting. The reality is they were both up-and-coming artists at the time and Colby fit the bill of what they were looking to include in that part of the track; Akon was initially supposed to fill that spot (whose presence would actually help your argument since he was in fact the bigger artist at the time), but they went with Colby instead in the end. On 9/2/2024 at 5:00 PM, Digitalism said: Bradley is a huge celebrity with a 2.5 billion song. His biggest song is bigger than all of Gaga's hits. My god. This is perhaps THE most asinine thing I've ever seen someone post against Gaga. You can't be this unintelligent, can you? That 2.5B song is in fact...primarily Gaga's song. He definitely has an important part in it (creatively and from a business perspective), but to say it is his song but not hers is just...I'll say it again since it's the nicest way I can put it: unintelligent. Then we have the glaringly obvious fact that — and here we'll be using the "solo" argument you yourself have continuously pushed as THE goalpost of all goalposts — Bradley's most streamed solo track (Maybe It's Time: 153M) would be Gaga's 21st most streamed solo track. So what you're telling us is Gaga has 20 solo tracks with more streams than Bradley's most streamed solo track yet the streams of the song they both share is somehow due to him and him alone? _____ You need to learn to drag more consistently (somehow we're looking at solo stats for Colby but not Bradley yet using both arguments to drag Gaga?) or at the very least stop getting so butthurt when your BS is rightfully called out ("the liddos are so mean to me, all I do is drag their fave with lies and then they retaliate for no reason "). 2 1
Pepo Posted September 5 Posted September 5 On 9/3/2024 at 12:17 AM, Doctor Dick said: What is this trolling @Digitalism and @Pepo? It's a fact that Gaga was the #1 female artist in 2010, both according to the IFPI and Google Trends. No one is saying Beyoncé wasn't big but it's a fact Gaga's The Fame was a bigger and more successful era than Beyoncé's I Am Sasha Fierce, which was still a huge era nonetheless. How can you guys say Gaga had a bigger peak than Beyoncé but Beyoncé had more longevity for years only to know claim that that same peak by Gaga is somehow smaller than Bey's? So by your logic Beyoncé had a bigger peak than Gaga? In 2010 Gaga was bigger than Beyoncé so she definitley didn't NEED Beyoncé and would've smashed solo with Telephone. Beyoncé had already been in the game for a decade by then, while also collecting her most successful era to date with IASF. So, Beyoncé had certainly a bigger career than Gaga. Coming for WDYLM's stats (mind you, a ninth single) won't make any of your previous claims true.
Doctor Dick Posted September 5 Posted September 5 11 minutes ago, Pepo said: Beyoncé had already been in the game for a decade by then, while also collecting her most successful era to date with IASF. So, Beyoncé had certainly a bigger career than Gaga. Coming for WDYLM's stats (mind you, a ninth single) won't make any of your previous claims true. Not the point. The point was that in 2010 Lady Gaga was THE biggest artist in the world, so she didn't need anyone for Telephone. To claim that Beyoncé was bigger than Gaga in 2010 is stupid. Even putting IASF against TFM as an era TFM was bigger and Poker Face and Bad Romance were bigger than any single from IASF. Gaga literally had the biggest era of any female post-Britney, so while Beyoncé was huge and Gaga definitely needed her in 2009 (not knowing how huge she'd become by 2010) in 2010 she no longer needed anyone to smash.
cowboy tyrant Posted September 5 Posted September 5 The commercial power Gaga seen during the Just Dance/Poker Face was already starting to show fatigue by 2010. After Bad Romance got blocked from #1 by newcomer Kesha, the next 3 singles all missed the #1 spot as well, with each of them peaking lower and lower. Who knows if Telephone would've peaked at #3 without Beyoncé.
Pepo Posted September 5 Posted September 5 13 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said: Not the point. The point was that in 2010 Lady Gaga was THE biggest artist in the world, so she didn't need anyone for Telephone. To claim that Beyoncé was bigger than Gaga in 2010 is stupid. Even putting IASF against TFM as an era TFM was bigger and Poker Face and Bad Romance were bigger than any single from IASF. Gaga literally had the biggest era of any female post-Britney, so while Beyoncé was huge and Gaga definitely needed her in 2009 (not knowing how huge she'd become by 2010) in 2010 she no longer needed anyone to smash. I didn't say that IASF was bigger, read my post again. And I didn't even claim that Gaga needed anyone for a hit. I just came for your unfair comparison, as there was no need to comment a flop ninth single in order to push your narrative. Yes, Gaga was smashing by herself. Even Shallow was going to be a hit regardless of the feature. In fact, Bradley was unnecessary.
Doctor Dick Posted September 5 Posted September 5 40 minutes ago, cowboy tyrant said: The commercial power Gaga seen during the Just Dance/Poker Face was already starting to show fatigue by 2010. After Bad Romance got blocked from #1 by newcomer Kesha, the next 3 singles all missed the #1 spot as well, with each of them peaking lower and lower. Who knows if Telephone would've peaked at #3 without Beyoncé. You must be trolling. Bad Romance broke the record for Most Viewed Video of All Time on YouTube and Born This Way (song) broke the all-time digital sales record after only three days. TikTok was a smash but it also faired better on radio and if Bad Romance's streams from YouTube had been counted it would've been #1. 45 minutes ago, Pepo said: I didn't say that IASF was bigger, read my post again. And I didn't even claim that Gaga needed anyone for a hit. I just came for your unfair comparison, as there was no need to comment a flop ninth single in order to push your narrative. Yes, Gaga was smashing by herself. Even Shallow was going to be a hit regardless of the feature. In fact, Bradley was unnecessary. But this entire thread is about who needs someone for a hit. And it's not entirely an unfair comparison because deluxe releases which there were countless of back then had singles that smashed and they were umpteenth singles as well. Beyoncé's being the ninth single didn't matter because Rihanna's ninth single from GGGB was Disturbia. I just mentioned Beyoncé because coincidentally after WDYLM in 2011 she flopped with all her singles so it could be that it already started around 2010 with WDYLM.
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