ICLDXU4HS Posted August 31 Posted August 31 (edited) When this random person had an ATRL banner on BRAT release day and Charlene didn't. Edited August 31 by ICLDXU4HS 1 1
Teen Spirit Posted August 31 Author Posted August 31 1 hour ago, Nicholai said: Omg the dislikes now i feel you @Kukai OT: He deserves better. Beyoncé is a billonarie eat the rich. LMFAOOOO. I thought your comment was funny.
Badgalbriel Posted August 31 Posted August 31 How is this shocking, though. It's standard practice for her. 2 1
Badgalbriel Posted August 31 Posted August 31 The album that supposedly celebrates black queer house music by an artist managed by Parkwood, who doesn't want to pay for the work of a black artist . Oh Parkwood..... 6
alexrex Posted August 31 Posted August 31 But this is not new for Bey, she takes credit for stuff she didn't write. Yeah all of the rings and all of the money, but at least give credit where credit is due.
Popular Post Bussea Posted August 31 Popular Post Posted August 31 it's so funny how one week atrl is all about hating billionaires and calling out capitalistic greed but then the next week making excuses as to why a billionaire shouldn't pay an artist for their work 7 5 4
Barbie. Posted August 31 Posted August 31 Some of the hive's responses Stan culture has to be worse than religion wtf 1
Bey'Knight Posted August 31 Posted August 31 There's not much to see here. He was dealing with her team, not Bey herself. His remix was not solicited They made him an offer He felt lowballed, declined Both parties went their separate ways It's business Beyonce's generosity speaks for itself so those trying to tar her for this are either disingenuous or uneducated. It's not as if she'd be paying him directly out of pocket. It was a business transaction. And Parkwood has successfully negotiated several other remixes for her last 2 albums but go off with your salted narratives. 2
slw84 Posted August 31 Posted August 31 8 hours ago, Pulse said: It seems like a bunch of you lack reading comprehension skills. The article says: Producers/DJs often remix songs without being commissioned first and submit them directly, it's not that rare. Just like any song, a remix has royalties/credits, so of course he'd want to be compensated fairly for something that's going to make someone money. Not y'all thinking he's money hungry when he often does remixes for virtually unknown artists They don't...they purposely use pivots and deflection in order to not deal with the facts of the matter. 4 hours ago, CroNich said: She wanted to release it and make money of it, is it not fair he gets paid a fair amount? Exactly. This keeps happening. At a certain point, a stan just needs to wave the white flag. Artists that big that have done it before will continue to do it so are you going to defend them for the rest of time. 1
Chris Posted August 31 Posted August 31 What the HELL is going on in here? It's barely 9:30 in the morning here.
Worm Posted August 31 Posted August 31 8 hours ago, NEUTRON said: because at the end of the day its HER SONG with HER VOCALS and without them all you have is another Kaytranada beat??? I think you may be confusing two situations. The first is where the DJ produces an unsolicited remix of an artist's song and wants to use it for commercial gain (playing it at their sets, putting it on streaming, using it to raise their profile). To do so, they have to obtain the copyright holder's permission - Beyonce's - and since it is her song, Beyonce has the absolute right to refuse to grant that permission for whatever reason she wants. If someone wanted to remix one of her songs into a Trump campaign song, for example, she could obviously object to that and sue the remixer if they put it on streaming or played it in public. Kaytranada has no entitlement to be allowed to remix her song, and certainly has no right to use the remix for commercial use without Beyonce's permission — so the idea of him wanting to get paid by Beyonce's team for the right to put his remix on streaming is laughable. The second situation (and the one that's actually occurring here) is where the artist specifically wants to take a remixer's work, publish it themselves on their own channels and make money from selling and streaming that remix. In this case, the artist will have a clear stream of income that comes directly from the remixed version only, this money is separate and additional to the money that would have come from selling the original version of the song, and is thus directly attributable to the remixer's work, or the "Kaytranada beat" as you called it. So Beyonce is effectively asking for the rights to generate a new income stream for herself off of Kaytranada's work, whilst only paying Kaytranada a small sum in royalties. Which makes it much more obvious in this case that Kaytranda has a right to be compensated fairly, since he is responsible for generating an entire new income stream for Beyonce and is only asking for a fair portion of it to be paid to him. If it helps, remember that Beyonce always has the option to just grant Kaytranada permission to use the remix and upload it to streaming himself, all for free and all without her having to pay him any royalties. She would still get the same boost for Cuff It if the remix took off and encouraged more people to seek out the original. This situation arose specifically out of Beyonce's desire to sell and make money off of his remix, so the royalty issue needs to be viewed in that context. 1
QuanticXplosion Posted August 31 Posted August 31 I mean isn't that a part of her MO? I totally believe him.
Pinkbutterflies Posted August 31 Posted August 31 2 hours ago, Bey'Knight said: There's not much to see here. He was dealing with her team, not Bey herself. His remix was not solicited They made him an offer He felt lowballed, declined Both parties went their separate ways It's business Beyonce's generosity speaks for itself so those trying to tar her for this are either disingenuous or uneducated. It's not as if she'd be paying him directly out of pocket. It was a business transaction. And Parkwood has successfully negotiated several other remixes for her last 2 albums but go off with your salted narratives. How convenient. Apparently, we are supposed to believe that Beyonce is this smart businesswoman that controls every aspect of her career and now it's her business making decisions for her. Which one is it? As a billionaire, Beyonce's generosity when she is offering him less than what indie artist offer. And even worse, isn't she supposed to be this champion of black minorities, yet she is willing to put them into sweatshops and devalue their work by offering stealing their work??? 1
ScorpiosGroove Posted August 31 Posted August 31 8 hours ago, Nicholai said: OT: He deserves better. Beyoncé is a billonarie eat the rich. weren't y'all celebrating gaga hitting 900M not long ago ? we'll eat her too ! 1
Teen Spirit Posted August 31 Author Posted August 31 8 hours ago, Bussea said: it's so funny how one week atrl is all about hating billionaires and calling out capitalistic greed but then the next week making excuses as to why a billionaire shouldn't pay an artist for their work Because they only hate Taylor & other male billionaires wbk
Joaco95 Posted August 31 Posted August 31 17 hours ago, Cheers said: Because SHE asked for all the rights to it??? Thats the standard for remixes tho
Bey'Knight Posted August 31 Posted August 31 5 hours ago, Pinkbutterflies said: How convenient. Apparently, we are supposed to believe that Beyonce is this smart businesswoman that controls every aspect of her career and now it's her business making decisions for her. Which one is it? As a billionaire, Beyonce's generosity when she is offering him less than what indie artist offer. And even worse, isn't she supposed to be this champion of black minorities, yet she is willing to put them into sweatshops and devalue their work by offering stealing their work??? Look you never liked her so don't pretend that this is some moral quandary that crossed the line for you. No one with functioning cognitive skills thinks any main pop girl is out there haggling rates with a remix artist of all people. The credits that accompany all her projects are not conjured out of thin air. It takes a village. And if you wanna hold her responsible for this, then so be it. It was still business transaction that fell through, hardly breaking news.
Barbie. Posted August 31 Posted August 31 7 hours ago, Chris said: What the HELL is going on in here? It's barely 9:30 in the morning here. Ur time zone isn't the special one that needs a presentation btw
trainsskyscrapers Posted August 31 Posted August 31 I'm sure it would surprise some of you to know his remix has been out (I'm assuming legally with Beyonce's authorization) on Apple Music since 2023. He's been making money off the song for a while.... But it doesn't match the narrative, and he just wanted a bigger piece of the pie for a trash remix that was six months too late. https://music.apple.com/ca/album/cuff-it-kaytranada-remix-mixed/1720762212?i=1720762409 1 2
brutal Posted August 31 Posted August 31 Why is he expecting bank for a remix he did unauthorized to an already hit song?? Also he is a delusional queen. I remember him accusing Chloe x Halle of "copying" his sound for Ungodly Hour (s) as if the song wasnt produced by dance LEGENDS Disclosure who had been doing that sound for years 3
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