base talk Who's the bigger legend: Taylor or Gaga?

[єѕℓαм]

1 hour ago, Storm653 said:

Taylor literally has music legends from different generations praising her though including the Beatles. 

Literally the same with Gaga and not just music legends like the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Elton John, Stevie wonder etc but also movie legends Barbara Streisand, Meryl Streep, Kathy Bates, Cher etc so overall Gaga is obv the bigger legend 

[Jay07]

3 hours ago, WildHeart said:

Beyonce doesn't sing Dance Monkey-quality songs, Gaga does. That's why despite both being good vocalists, only one of them has massively acclaimed catalogue like Taylor's. Cute of you to try sneaking Gaga's music next to Beyonce but they are worlds apart. 

You were the one that brought up Beyonce. I don't see what the quality of Gaga's songs (a completely subjective metric, especially coming from a tattooed golden retriever fan and considering she has a number of acclaimed, highly awarded classics) have to do with her talent level since she's recognized as an extremely gifted singer, actor and performer which is about three qualities more talents than certain others have. Ironically, Gaga first broke as a songwriter for others which is even more proof of her songwriting prowess in addition to her other talents. Shallow alone is the one the second most awarded song ever. But sure, the hey its me I'm the problem fan thinks she's a meme singer.

 

You can keep screaming "songwriting" all day (peculiar hill to die on considering her recent outout) but it still won't make Taylor (allegedly a singer) able to sing. Stay in your lane.

Edited August 23 by Jay07

[Oktober Knight]

7 hours ago, Aries Groove said:

The fact yall want to erase ASIB at all costs  All the humongous success and acclaim she had with it just to stick to your ridiculous and dated narrative...

Being a legend is not limited to huge sales

You're right, it's measured by other factors like hit singles, impact, relevance, popularity, streams, etc, etc. In this case, Taylor has way more of that than Gaga after all these years. This isn't 2009 anymore boo. 

[Aries Groove]

7 minutes ago, Oktober Knight said:

You're right, it's measured by other factors like hit singles, impact, relevance, popularity, streams, etc, etc. In this case, Taylor has way more of that than Gaga after all these years. This isn't 2009 anymore boo. 

And this isnt 2013 anymore, Gaga had plenty of those in different fields.... + Iconic looks, iconic performances (every legend having one) something that Taylor Swift lacks severely...

[WildHeart]

4 hours ago, Jay07 said:

You were the one that brought up Beyonce. I don't see what the quality of Gaga's songs (a completely subjective metric, especially coming from a tattooed golden retriever fan and considering she has a number of acclaimed, highly awarded classics) have to do with her talent level since she's recognized as an extremely gifted singer, actor and performer which is about three qualities more talents than certain others have. Ironically, Gaga first broke as a songwriter for others which is even more proof of her songwriting prowess in addition to her other talents. Shallow alone is the one the second most awarded song ever. But sure, the hey its me I'm the problem fan thinks she's a meme singer.

 

You can keep screaming "songwriting" all day (peculiar hill to die on considering her recent outout) but it still won't make Taylor (allegedly a singer) able to sing. Stay in your lane.

I brought up Beyonce to show what a really talented performer with an acclaimed catalogue looks like. 

 

I am not screaming songwriting, i am screaming legacy which is the most important thing a legend can leave behind. A remembered legacy with Folklores, Reds and 1989s instead of Chromaticas, Artpops and Joannes. You can come back when Gaga finally release an acclaimed body of work again for the first time in 10 years 

Edited August 23 by WildHeart

[WildHeart]

12 minutes ago, Aries Groove said:

And this isnt 2013 anymore, Gaga had plenty of those in different fields.... + Iconic looks, iconic performances (every legend having one) something that Taylor Swift lacks severely...

The Eras Tour/ tour looks alone are more remembered and recognizable than anything Gaga put out in a decade

Edited August 23 by WildHeart

[Rev8]

Reading the comments, reminds me why it's so boring to get into these threads anymore

 

Talking about success and what-not ..when obviously one of them has been pushing herself to Be successful..

the other's goal is different, not even that much music-related for some time now..

 

 

ATRL loves to compare these stuff..but sometimes there just isn't even an answer..

[Storm653]

6 hours ago, єѕℓαм said:

Literally the same with Gaga and not just music legends like the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Elton John, Stevie wonder etc but also movie legends Barbara Streisand, Meryl Streep, Kathy Bates, Cher etc so overall Gaga is obv the bigger legend 

That's what I said. I said older legends have praised both of them.

 

Also, what criteria are you using to claim that Gaga's the bigger legend? 

 

 

 

 

[Storm653]

7 hours ago, Infernal Paradise said:

The way ATRLers cannot think beyond sales is so- sales are a component, sure, but they're never the be all end all.

 

Anyways. Gaga, easily. She can effortlessly bounce between so many different mediums and ventures and be so successful at each one of them which  is an extremely rare artistic accomplishment. Every one else is busy competing in the same old popstar rat race. Meanwhile, Gaga is playing a completely different game with her own rulebook because she is a singular, generational talent. 

 

Like, you call Taylor a legend (which is fine, you do you) but she literally praises Gaga and looks up to her versatility and multi-faceted career. Lmao, please. If Taylor is a legend, then that makes Gaga automatically one, and arguably the bigger one too.

 

 

 

If I were an OGH'd Swiftie, I'd be fuming too if my fave effusively praised the artist I spend hours trashing as a "fad" on ATRL.

 

Uh...you do realize that tons of musicians have dabbled in music and acting at the same time right?

 

 

[elincomprendid]

2 hours ago, Aries Groove said:

Iconic looks, iconic performances (every legend having one) something that Taylor Swift lacks severely...

Ah yes the eras tour is 0 iconic, no one knows it our bad!

 

Chromatica Ball more iconic than Eras Tour just ask people on the streets!!

[WildHeart]

11 hours ago, Pendulum said:

Taylor's post-COVID music is known only within the Swiftie base. 

 

Lady Gaga is a household name and (globally, so outside the US) if you ask random people on the street (people who don't look like Taylor's demographic aka white teens and women, they would be more likely to know who Lady Gaga is, which further elevates her legendary status. 

I can't even tell if this is trolling or not. 

Cruel Summer, the biggest female hit of the streaming era being fanbase driven but Chromatica being a GP magnet 

 

 

9 hours ago, Infernal Paradise said:

Like, you call Taylor a legend (which is fine, you do you) but she literally praises Gaga and looks up to her versatility and multi-faceted career. Lmao, please. If Taylor is a legend, then that makes Gaga automatically one, and arguably the bigger one too.

Congrats to Gaga being on the same list with names where she praised to high heavens like Troye Sivan and Ice Spice. Congrats at being a legend like them 

 

[Jay07]

On 8/24/2024 at 12:11 AM, WildHeart said:

I brought up Beyonce to show what a really talented performer with an acclaimed catalogue looks like. 

 

I am not screaming songwriting, i am screaming legacy which is the most important thing a legend can leave behind. A remembered legacy with Folklores, Reds and 1989s instead of Chromaticas, Artpops and Joannes. You can come back when Gaga finally release an acclaimed body of work again for the first time in 10 years 

What does this rambling have to do with raw talent? Give up while you're behind sweetie, you're embarrassing yourself.

Edited August 25 by Jay07

[bjorn]

On 8/24/2024 at 12:21 AM, elincomprendid said:

Ah yes the eras tour is 0 iconic, no one knows it our bad!

 

Chromatica Ball more iconic than Eras Tour just ask people on the streets!!

Now u know this is a lie 

[WildHeart]

36 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

What does this rambling have to do with raw talent? 

Making quality music have nothing to do with talent, really sounds like something a liddo would say 

[Jay07]

9 minutes ago, WildHeart said:

Making quality music have nothing to do with talent, really sounds like something a liddo would say 

Oh sweetie, you better stick to talking about streams and avoid going near talent if your fave can't hit a note even if she was holding a shotgun. Stop embarrassing yourself

 

[WildHeart]

13 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

Oh sweetie, you better stick to talking about streams and avoid going near talent if your fave can't hit a note even if she was holding a shotgun. Stop embarrassing yourself

 

I will talk about 4 AOTYs and 7 universally acclaimed albums my fave released thanks to her talent. Others can stick to praising Perfect Illusion live version or something 

[Jay07]

1 minute ago, WildHeart said:

I will talk about 4 AOTYs and 7 universally acclaimed albums my fave released thanks to her talent. Others can stick to praising Perfect Illusion live version or something 

I mean of course, if you are delusional you can keep on babbling about whatever you want, especially since your fave can't sing, can't dance and can't act so you have to hang your hat on tattooed labrador or whatever.

 

[WildHeart]

4 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

I mean of course, if you are delusional you can keep on babbling about whatever you want, especially since your fave can't sing, can't dance and can't act so you have to hang your hat on tattooed labrador or whatever.

 

Thankfully i can listen studio versions of my fave's music but good luck enjoying Chromaticas, Joannes and Artpops from your super talented fave, must be super fun. I know one more on the way soon 

[Jay07]

Just now, WildHeart said:

Thankfully i can listen studio versions of my fave's music but good luck enjoying Chromaticas, Joannes and Artpops from your super talented fave, must be super fun. I know one more on the way soon 

Your hoping mechanisms for your faves utter lack of talent are your own business sweetie.

[Badgalbriel]

1 hour ago, Jay07 said:

What does this rambling have to do with raw talent? Give up while you're behind sweetie, you're embarrassing yourself.

You're so obsessed that it's concerning

[burninredhot]

On 8/23/2024 at 7:18 PM, Aries Groove said:

Being a legend is not limited to huge sales

True but it's not limited to being highly respected on gagadaily.com either tho

[burninredhot]

14 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

Your hoping mechanisms for your faves utter lack of talent are your own business sweetie.

Calling chromatica trash is not coping tho? It's a fact. Gaga's solo projects have been lacking for more than a decade and the truth is that the GP sees her as  Katy Perry's peer

[DevilsRollTheDice]

The fact that the GP poll is close proves this is not a serious website 

 

Gaga is the only other artist I consider myself to stan, but please be so serious. Taylor is on a tour where resale tickets for restricted view are going for thousands of dollars. She has 4 AOTY Grammys and possibly the most successful and beloved musical catalogue of all time. Certainly the most from an artist born after 1980. 

[Aries Groove]

7 minutes ago, burninredhot said:

Calling chromatica trash is not coping tho? It's a fact. Gaga's solo projects have been lacking for more than a decade and the truth is that the GP sees her as  Katy Perry's peer

[Into The Void]

AOTY wins prove absolutely nothing