charts discussion Jimin #2 on US Spotify, not charting in any cities, only #24 on BB streaming. How?

[Rihinvention]

2 hours ago, Dialamba said:

His fanbase uses VPN.  
Same goes on Spotify Korea and Japan he is topping there but doesn't charts on major cities and neither domestic charts. 
 

Why do they care so much about getting him to chart in America when most Americans don't even speak Korean though? It seems like such a pointless exercise

 

I feel like if you went to any American college and showed students a photo of him, none of them would know who he is. If you asked "who is Jimin?" none of them would be able to tell you. If you played them his song, they'd say "oh, I don't listen to K-pop, sorry" and if you asked them why, they'd say "…because I have no idea what he's saying."

 

It just seems like a lot of effort to rig a market that, ultimately, is never going to care. What good are these numbers if no one in the country actually knows who you are, what you sing, or what you're even singing about? 

[katara]

I can't believe Spotify allows this blatant corruption eww

[KillingYourCareer]

It is known that BTS songs are almost completely botted on Spotify in Western countries. Check out Apple Music for more realistic figures for his song. That's right, N/A in the US top 200!

[MardinBeksloy]

This is ridiculous. This is why Apple Music will always be the better streaming service.

[orange22]

It was a rural release 

 

[whatyouwant_]

Fraudimin never beating the allegations 

[Sugden]

the fact that spotify allows this is crazy

[Rama]

Why am I just finding out streams can be manipulated so easily? How are streams thru VPNs not filtered? 

[Bloodflowers.]

The success is plastic and fake just like his music

[Sad Beautiful Tragic]

I'm not sure why these discussions arise whenever a K-pop group nears the top of the charts  

Clearly, much of their success comes from an extremely devoted fanbase - one that will stream and buy anything their favourite artists release, no matter what. Their fans are so committed that even a track of them farting  would likely outsell everyone but Taylor Swift. Rather than questioning this success, Western music labels should focus on how to build a similarly passionate fanbase for their own artists. 

[RiseAndShine]

Jimin is just about the worst singer in kpop. That song is ******* awful.

[Trent W]

3 hours ago, frankvert said:

Spotify needs to stop allowing this fraudulence to happen. It cheapens their service (even more than it already is). 

They are very strict with small artists and cancel their accounts 

 

Even if an outside source sends the streams

 

But with huge label artists they can bot them all they want

[smartalek22]

Reminds me of the Leftovermax situation of botted streams (and allegedly Artemas too), and Spotify just removed it because it was some random khia

[pride4jc1222]

2 minutes ago, smartalek22 said:

Reminds me of the Leftovermax situation of botted streams (and allegedly Artemas too), and Spotify just removed it because it was some random khia

Spotify loves Artemas, maybe even obsessed. They're always posting about I Like the Way You Kiss Me's streaming stats almost every single day on Twitter.

[nadiamendell]

1 hour ago, SimpleKindofLife said:

King of the suburbs and rural areas

Had no idea MAGAts were such big K-Pop fans!  

[simplywohoo]

56 minutes ago, Sad Beautiful Tragic said:

I'm not sure why these discussions arise whenever a K-pop group nears the top of the charts  

Clearly, much of their success comes from an extremely devoted fanbase - one that will stream and buy anything their favourite artists release, no matter what. Their fans are so committed that even a track of them farting  would likely outsell everyone but Taylor Swift. Rather than questioning this success, Western music labels should focus on how to build a similarly passionate fanbase for their own artists. 

But tye fact he's not charting in any city is indeed weird 

Imagine a pop girl doing this. The threads would be endless 

[orange22]

7 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said:

Spotify loves Artemas, maybe even obsessed. They're always posting about I Like the Way You Kiss Me's streaming stats almost every single day on Twitter.

wake that up too 

 

 

[Windy Day]

4 hours ago, Dialamba said:

His fanbase uses VPN.  
Same goes on Spotify Korea and Japan he is topping there but doesn't charts on major cities and neither domestic charts. 
 

now wait because how is he completely N/A of the entire top 100 in korean domestic charts yet magically #1 on spotify korea with an enormous 235K streams (while the other songs have only a few thousands streams due to spotify's small user base in korea)???? this is a case for the fbi 

[Windy Day]

1 hour ago, Sad Beautiful Tragic said:

I'm not sure why these discussions arise whenever a K-pop group nears the top of the charts  

Clearly, much of their success comes from an extremely devoted fanbase - one that will stream and buy anything their favourite artists release, no matter what. Their fans are so committed that even a track of them farting  would likely outsell everyone but Taylor Swift. Rather than questioning this success, Western music labels should focus on how to build a similarly passionate fanbase for their own artists. 

no, that's clearly chart manipulation of some sort because he's getting 200k~300k daily streams on spotify korea despite the user base being 600k and domestic fans would rather stream on melon where he's OUT of the top 100… weird

[newaespa]

yucks but glad Chappell is blocking the massive autoplayed song, and the bots

Edited August 16 by newaespa

[penguintim]

6 hours ago, KillingYourCareer said:

It is known that BTS songs are almost completely botted on Spotify in Western countries. Check out Apple Music for more realistic figures for his song. That's right, N/A in the US top 200!

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Edited August 16 by penguintim

[penguintim]

6 hours ago, Sad Beautiful Tragic said:

Their fans are so committed that even a track of them farting  would likely outsell everyone but Taylor Swift

Phat Butt (BTS Remix) omg-

[Assassin]

a lot of sites and inaccessible on VPNs. Spotify should do the same.

[OBEY]

10 hours ago, frankvert said:

Spotify needs to stop allowing this fraudulence to happen. It cheapens their service (even more than it already is). 

Is it only happening on Spotify or Apple Music too? 

[MatiRod]

6 hours ago, newaespa said:

yucks but glad Chappell is blocking the massive autoplayed song, and the bots

It's not autoplay…